Preview Rnd 10 Fremantle vs Geelong, Saturday 20 May 4:35pm (AEST) @ Optus Oval

[calder_daddy]

I actually think we outperformed Richmond, it was a mixture of poor efficiency, strange umpiring decisions and some basic skill errors that let us down. I'm not sure Freo are in the same class as Richmond.

For me it comes down to mature bodies
I wasn’t confident against the tigers due to the fact they had experience all over the ground. Not the same with freo IMO and that’s what gives me just a tad of confidence

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Can win it and need to win it to give the kids a confidence boost after a loss.

Forward line should function a lot better with Close and maybe Stengle in. Without them Clark and young will be getting low pressure rebound kicks all day.

More worried about their small forwards than keys even though the kps did the damage against the swans. We have better kp defenders and the swans have better small defenders.

The real question is midfield. The kids did ok in patches against a pretty seasones Tigers group. They'll need to back it up here. Don't think we're getting any mids back. Ceglar did well but also there's a clear plan to sub him off at 3 quarter time, so don't know his body is going to be up to it. SDK hopefully can do a bit of ruck with Blitz and rotate back with their talls if we need. Don't think we're winning the ruck battle in this one regardless

So I'm thinking:

SDK in for Ceglar (managed)
Close for Parfitt
If Stengle is back I'd chuck him into the 22 for Dempsey with Dempsey sub
If Stengle isn't I'd put Clark into the 22 with Dempsey sub.

Want a full game into Clark at either level and Dempsey has been a good sub

 

[Mr Meow]

Can win it and need to win it to give the kids a confidence boost after a loss.

Forward line should function a lot better with Close and maybe Stengle in. Without them Clark and young will be getting low pressure rebound kicks all day.

More worried about their small forwards than keys even though the kps did the damage against the swans. We have better kp defenders and the swans have better small defenders.

The real question is midfield. The kids did ok in patches against a pretty seasones Tigers group. They'll need to back it up here. Don't think we're getting any mids back. Ceglar did well but also there's a clear plan to sub him off at 3 quarter time, so don't know his body is going to be up to it. SDK hopefully can do a bit of ruck with Blitz and rotate back with their talls if we need. Don't think we're winning the ruck battle in this one regardless

So I'm thinking:

SDK in for Ceglar (managed)
Close for Parfitt
If Stengle is back I'd chuck him into the 22 for Dempsey with Dempsey sub
If Stengle isn't I'd put Clark into the 22 with Dempsey sub.

Want a full game into Clark at either level and Dempsey has been a good sub

I like most of this but SDK with his mask against brute force rucks first game up I'm not so keen on. What's the alternative, Blicavs purely as a ruck and we lose one of our best stoppage mids?

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Not in the same class? They're nearly in the same ladder position.
Or do you mean class as in classy, where Richmond are at absolute zero?

I think Richmond are a better team.

 

[JohnZ]

cats_09 game is at 4.35pm AEST, 2.35pm AWST.

 

[Chinacats]

Dockers transitioned the ball well last week and blocked the swans from transitioning. Cats this year have struggled with oppo teams transitioning the ball through our midfield and defence…. We concede too many points . This is a big watch…

 

[Son_Of_God29]

For the meat Tray -

In: Stengle Close Henry SDK Clark
Out: Dempsey Parfitt Kolo Ceglar

Sub: Parfitt

 

[bulletproof]

I think Scott was talking about Henry for the VFL, not AFL.

He is a notoriously slow starter in his campaigns too.

Not a guy you want coming straight in from a long lay off.

 

[GeelongFTW]

For the meat Tray -

In: Stengle Close Henry SDK Clark
Out: Dempsey Parfitt Kolo Ceglar

Sub: Parfitt

Henry? that would be a miracle

 

[CHAWKTS]

Can win it and need to win it to give the kids a confidence boost after a loss.

Forward line should function a lot better with Close and maybe Stengle in. Without them Clark and young will be getting low pressure rebound kicks all day.

More worried about their small forwards than keys even though the kps did the damage against the swans. We have better kp defenders and the swans have better small defenders.

The real question is midfield. The kids did ok in patches against a pretty seasones Tigers group. They'll need to back it up here. Don't think we're getting any mids back. Ceglar did well but also there's a clear plan to sub him off at 3 quarter time, so don't know his body is going to be up to it. SDK hopefully can do a bit of ruck with Blitz and rotate back with their talls if we need. Don't think we're winning the ruck battle in this one regardless

So I'm thinking:

SDK in for Ceglar (managed)
Close for Parfitt
If Stengle is back I'd chuck him into the 22 for Dempsey with Dempsey sub
If Stengle isn't I'd put Clark into the 22 with Dempsey sub.

Want a full game into Clark at either level and Dempsey has been a good sub

All makes sense. But will be one more forced change I think with O Henry out. Does that alter your view in terms of Dempsey sub or in 22?

In terms of SDK for Ceglar that is exactly what I would do too - if SDK is ready…not sure the club will do it though. Maybe they bring SDK in and keep Ceglar (and therefore Dempsey out?). Not as easy to predict this week as last week

 

[catempire]

Yes Henry for VFL.

I’m expecting:

In: Stengle, Close
Out: Dempsey, Parfitt

 

[CHAWKTS]

For the meat Tray -

In: Stengle Close Henry SDK Clark
Out: Dempsey Parfitt Kolo Ceglar

Sub: Parfitt

Don’t think we will see Henry snr and SDK 50/50 at best. Reckon there will be 3 changes max to the 23. Stengle and close in and then maybe one tall for Ceglar managed.

In terms of out of 23 we will have one forced (injury) and then either Parf or Dempsey Will be the other (for Close and Stengle)

 

[CHAWKTS]

Yes Henry for VFL.

I’m expecting:

In: Stengle, Close
Out: Dempsey, Parfitt

Think we will find one forced out so they will then chose between Dempsey and Parf in terms of out of 23 (the other one could also become sub if they want to inject Jhye into 22)

 

[CHAWKTS]

Yes Henry for VFL.

I’m expecting:

In: Stengle, Close
Out: Dempsey, Parfitt

VFL bye this week

 

[cats_09]

cats_09 game is at 4.35pm AEST, 2.35pm AWST.

Cheers - I swear when I checked Footywire last night that it said 2:35pm AEST

Thanks for the heads up

 

[cats_09]

For the meat Tray -

In: Stengle Close Henry SDK Clark
Out: Dempsey Parfitt Kolo Ceglar

Sub: Parfitt

Why Kolodjashnij?

He's been one of our best and most solid players since his return - unless injured he's a lock in our defence

 

[cats_09]

I think Scott was talking about Henry for the VFL, not AFL.

He is a notoriously slow starter in his campaigns too.

Not a guy you want coming straight in from a long lay off.

And no VFL week - think he'll have a hard week on the training track and prepare to return next week

 

[Turbocat]

VFL bye this week

Wgy are there so many byes in the VFL? seems strange

 

[standupand]

Think we will find one forced out so they will then chose between Dempsey and Parf in terms of out of 23 (the other one could also become sub if they want to inject Jhye into 22)

Parfitt only played a little more than 50% of the game last week. I feel like there may be some sort of plan for him to build minutes and confidence over the next few weeks. I'd like to see him retained and given the chance to prove the doubters wrong.

 

[Footy Smarts]

For me it comes down to mature bodies
I wasn’t confident against the tigers due to the fact they had experience all over the ground. Not the same with freo IMO and that’s what gives me just a tad of confidence

Agreed. Freo are thin for mature bodies and their forward line is very inexperienced.

As much as Richmond had been struggling their defence was strong, their midfield deep and with Reiwoldt, Martin and Bolton up forward they could be threatening if those guys played well.

In comparison Freo's defence looks a touch weaker and certainly less experienced, their midfield has less depth (although Darcy, Serong and Bradshaw is a strong trio) and their forward line looks poor (no Taberner, Lobb or Logue compared to last year).

If we get an extra mature player or 2 in we should expect to win.

 

[cats_09]

Wgy are there so many byes in the VFL? seems strange

Because they're stupid

I'd rather AFL teams move out of the VFL (or at least the East Coast teams) and play as a genuine reserves team, so same opponent each week as the seniors where that fits in - but still allow a selection of 25/30 additional players as per the current VFL list sizes

And get rid of the stupid number of byes

I'm aware that in a situation like this week that we play Fremantle which would mean in the above scenario that we don't exactly have a direct reserves opponent - well Hawthorn play WCE, so we'd match up against them

 

[cats_09]

Parfitt only played a little more than 50% of the game last week. I feel like there may be some sort of plan for him to build minutes and confidence over the next few weeks. I'd like to see him retained and given the chance to prove the doubters wrong.

He either needs to be given a run of 3 or 4 weeks in the seniors to see what he can do

Or leave him in the VFL for the next month so he can build form, match fitness etc - having him play a match in the VFL & then a quarter as sub in the seniors the next week or worse the carry over emergency isn't helping him out, he needs continuity at the moment at one level or the other

 

[Sire of Claude]

We already know "what he (Parfitt) can do" - scrounge a few kicks at the margins, lay tackles and kick high up and under.

And why should he - as against anyone else - be gifted a month just to see whether he can turn in to a butterfly.

 

[cats_09]

We already know "what he (Parfitt) can do" - scrounge a few kicks at the margins, lay tackles and kick high up and under.

And why should he - as against anyone else - be gifted a month just to see whether he can turn in to a butterfly.

To be fair, he had a few teammates during the early parts of the season who were struggling for touch and were given the opportunity to find form in the seniors...

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I like most of this but SDK with his mask against brute force rucks first game up I'm not so keen on. What's the alternative, Blicavs purely as a ruck and we lose one of our best stoppage mids?

I would also rather send Ceglar given he was actually not too bad against Richmond.

Not seeing a plethora of options if he can't go though. I could be wrong but last week was the first 4 quarter game he's played all year and he tried to come off at 3 quarter time. This will be a travelling game too, though the longer break could help.