Preview Rnd 10 Fremantle vs Geelong, Saturday 20 May 4:35pm (AEST) @ Optus Oval

[Vdubs]

Couldn’t do worse than his brother up front TBH. However I would like a smaller option that can defend oppo ball movement to come in. Close helps and hopefully another one… we’ve been carved up on turnover this year…having a tall Henry in the forward line doesn’t help that in my view. It’s time Scott got inventive up front…

Stengle will be back soon- he was critical for us in 22.
His below par form, then injury, has hurt us a lot.
CS is hamstrung while we are so injury ravaged.

 

[cats_09]

Couldn’t do worse than his brother up front TBH. However I would like a smaller option that can defend oppo ball movement to come in. Close helps and hopefully another one… we’ve been carved up on turnover this year…having a tall Henry in the forward line doesn’t help that in my view. It’s time Scott got inventive up front…

As long as he goes at the 1.7 goals per game his brother's been contributing, or do we want to see a minimum 2 goals per game from Jack?

 

[Vdubs]

EVERYBODY wants Parfitt out this week.
From my pov, I hope he gets another start.
They will look at his training patterns and attitude as well, rather than just his below average form in his first start for 23

 

[catempire]

EVERYBODY wants Parfitt out this week.
From my pov, I hope he gets another start.
They will look at his training patterns and attitude as well, rather than just his below average form in his first start for 23

Who would your three outs be then Vdubs?

 

[fpm84]

EVERYBODY wants Parfitt out this week.
From my pov, I hope he gets another start.
They will look at his training patterns and attitude as well, rather than just his below average form in his first start for 23

Yep me too. I would not be dropping an experienced midfielder without gaining one. Parfitt was poor last week but deserves another chance, and we stuck with plenty of underperforming players over the first three rounds.

 

[Mr Meow]

EVERYBODY wants Parfitt out this week.
From my pov, I hope he gets another start.
They will look at his training patterns and attitude as well, rather than just his below average form in his first start for 23

If it's a choice between Clark and Parfitt starting, I'd like to see Clark.

 

[Commando]

Bit off topic...
is there a new podcast- Stewie & Tuohy?
Stopped listening to the final bell one but remember it was great when Zac was on it..:
Any reviews

 

[Sire of Claude]

With respect, i'm not sure how training patterns come in to it: Parfitt is a limited footballer out of form. He might get a game because we're running out of players.

 

[Cataholic]

If it's a choice between Clark and Parfitt starting, I'd like to see Clark.

This.

Clark brings pressure, as we saw with his tackling in limited game time last week.

We need that from the get go.

 

[Mr Meow]

You don't want to waste rotations with key defenders though. Key position players often play >90% time on ground. You'd be including an extra KPD just for the sake of it if you went down that route.

If you decide you can structurally make 4 work, then that's ok. But otherwise you probably have to drop one.

Yeah that's why my original point - can Jack play small - is probably more the way to go. I'm guessing they will stick with Bews as a lockdown small but you still need other agile guys who are capable at collecting the groundball.

 

[TEDDY24INC]

Hoyne of champion data states cats don’t defend turnover well this year whereas under Scott we’ve been top 3 for doing that over his tenure. Yes he was conservative with ball movement coming out of defence before last season.. but this year it’s been a hard watch for me. And it starts from the forwards and the mids .. oppo teams have carved us up through the middle and oppo half backs were dominate in our opening 3 losses and on the weekend Rioli, Baker & Short were 3 of tigers best. I think it’s a structural problem rather then defensive injury issue… a lack of hunger has been evident from this cats season thus far…
O . Henry out is a good start… let’s see

We started to do it better over the last month, but injuries have caught up which culminated in last weeks loss. Add Close, Rohan and Stengel back and this will go a long way to helping. The issues we seen first few weeks regarding this were conditioning/fitness and attitude based. Both fixable, and were bar the injury cliff

 

[Jumping Jack]

EVERYBODY wants Parfitt out this week.
From my pov, I hope he gets another start.
They will look at his training patterns and attitude as well, rather than just his below average form in his first start for 23

So blokes are getting selected based on "training patterns". Okkaaaayyyyy

If that's the case we should start to consider selecting players based on religious beliefs, or where they stand on the issues of climate change and world poverty. Has about as much relevance.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I wonder if the departure of HT from his fitness role has impacted our long injury list.

I think the impact HT left with us is the cautiousness in injury management.

I think a few on our list would be playing hurt currently if HT was never here

 

[Chinacats]

As long as he goes at the 1.7 goals per game his brother's been contributing, or do we want to see a minimum 2 goals per game from Jack?

A 40 Y.O. off the street could ave. 1.7 goals a game in this cats side that value assists as much as goals .. especially when you hardly leave the 30m arc from goal. O Henry does have good aerial ability yet needs to work on his defensive game as it’s basically non existent ATM. sometimes he has given up on the chase or is waiting for the umpire to blow his whistle so he doesn’t bother chasing… had close to zero impact thus far…

 

[Chinacats]

Bit off topic...
is there a new podcast- Stewie & Tuohy?
Stopped listening to the final bell one but remember it was great when Zac was on it..:
Any reviews

Watched the first one with Finch (cricket captain) and it was okay. This one has Anthony Hudson on it but seems it’s just an audio and not a video this time????

 

[Chinacats]

I wonder if the departure of HT from his fitness role has impacted our long injury list.

Can’t remember reading about Harry departing… must have some time ago, but interesting question…

 

[Mr Meow]

Hoyne of champion data states cats don’t defend turnover well this year whereas under Scott we’ve been top 3 for doing that over his tenure. Yes he was conservative with ball movement coming out of defence before last season.. but this year it’s been a hard watch for me. And it starts from the forwards and the mids .. oppo teams have carved us up through the middle and oppo half backs were dominate in our opening 3 losses and on the weekend Rioli, Baker & Short were 3 of tigers best. I think it’s a structural problem rather then defensive injury issue… a lack of hunger has been evident from this cats season thus far…
O . Henry out is a good start… let’s see

Compared to last year it's been a more unsettled defence. Missed Stewart and Kolo for a couple of weeks on top of J.Henry; now it's SDK.

What hasn't helped is Tuohy is a turnover merchant this year and a few others are also giving the ball away in terrible positions. So I think it's as much our ball use as anything. Then once again we've lost pressurers Rohan, Stengle and last week Close. So the ball transitions a lot easier. I realise this occurred in rounds 1-3 before a few of these players switched on but I believe this time personnel will help. Having the agile SDK and J.Henry in defence, with Close, Stengle and Rohan up forward will help us in this area.

 

[Play it Sam]

Hoyne of champion data states cats don’t defend turnover well this year whereas under Scott we’ve been top 3 for doing that over his tenure. Yes he was conservative with ball movement coming out of defence before last season.. but this year it’s been a hard watch for me. And it starts from the forwards and the mids .. oppo teams have carved us up through the middle and oppo half backs were dominate in our opening 3 losses and on the weekend Rioli, Baker & Short were 3 of tigers best. I think it’s a structural problem rather then defensive injury issue… a lack of hunger has been evident from this cats season thus far…
O . Henry out is a good start… let’s see

This really makes sense until it doesn't. Call it skills, fitness, difficulties gelling with new mids, game plan failure, whatever you can research, but it's not hunger. It's no use pulling out the psychological barbs to explain losses unless you know much more of individuals, and lack of motivation at this level is very rare.

 

[Strange Cat]

EVERYBODY wants Parfitt out this week.
From my pov, I hope he gets another start.
They will look at his training patterns and attitude as well, rather than just his below average form in his first start for 23

He’s competing for a midfiled slot that I would rather give to a kid atm ..he isn’t impressing anyone atm with his game time in the VFL or AFL .

 

[Jumping Jack]

Parfitt has fallen away. A shadow of the young player we saw with considerable upside.

Biggest thing hurting him is his genuine lack of natural aerobic capacity which means he can’t stay in games, and impact for long enough. It’s not his fault, it’s just who he is. Narkle was lazy - Parfitt just doesn’t have it.

Too small to play anywhere else, and not damaging enough to play as a small forward ahead of others on our list.

Sometimes we run the risk of over analysing players and why they’re not playing well. In the case of Parfitt I think genetics play a part, as does him not having enough tricks




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[catempire]

I wonder if the departure of HT from his fitness role has impacted our long injury list.

Big fan of Harry but not sure he would be capable of curing busted eye sockets, broken wrists, foot stress fractures and torn ankle ligaments.

 

[catempire]

Parfitt has fallen away. A shadow of the young player we saw with considerable upside.

Biggest thing hurting him is his genuine lack of natural aerobic capacity which means he can’t stay in games, and impact for long enough. It’s not his fault, it’s just who he is. Narkle was lazy - Parfitt just doesn’t have it.

Too small to play anywhere else, and not damaging enough to play as a small forward ahead of others on our list.

Sometimes we run the risk of over analysing players and why they’re not playing well. In the case of Parfitt I think genetics play a part, as does him not having enough tricks




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At his best he could complement a midfield set that was powerful and skilful because he was neither but he has some grunt and a nice knack of finding an extra second in traffic.

But out of form with no Dangerfield or Selwood I’d rather get another look at Clark.

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

This.

Clark brings pressure, as we saw with his tackling in limited game time last week.

We need that from the get go.

He's pick 8 - most of the top ten who have played are going well , expect Clark will be no exception so a full game v Freo mids would be a good test.
You know it makes sense

 

[GeelongFTW]

MOC will play more mid i feel.

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

Compared to last year it's been a more unsettled defence. Missed Stewart and Kolo for a couple of weeks on top of J.Henry; now it's SDK.

What hasn't helped is Tuohy is a turnover merchant this year and a few others are also giving the ball away in terrible positions. So I think it's as much our ball use as anything. Then once again we've lost pressurers Rohan, Stengle and last week Close. So the ball transitions a lot easier. I realise this occurred in rounds 1-3 before a few of these players switched on but I believe this time personnel will help. Having the agile SDK and J.Henry in defence, with Close, Stengle and Rohan up forward will help us in this area.

Great observation Mr Meow - when we flicked the switch last season we moved the ball clinically from one end to the other and knew when to play fast mode. We didn't turn it over and our forwards feasted on the opportunity.
We also had incredible pressure in the contest and generated frontal pressure on the opposition with the footy - the GF was pure poetry.

The Pies are playing a similar pressure game at the moment , hope ours clicks in at the right time to make a fist of it in September.