Preview RND 23- Carlton v Geelong Saturday 24th August 4.35PM @ GMHBA - Team Post #242

[MightyMighties]

Is there any possibility Cats players just hold back a fraction not wanting to risk injury pre-finals? Or does the bye after the last round put that idea to bed somewhat.

 

[FRUMPY]

Doesn't make up for only having 5 effective disposals, missing yet another straight forward shot at goal, kicking the ball out on the full on the wing after taking a mark and being slow as treacle in his decision making.

I don't rate him (have made that clear in multiple game threads) but he was ok Saturday, nothing special but did some ok things. Keeps his spot I my opinion and then, if I was in charge, delist (or rookie)

 

[FRUMPY]

Is there any possibility Cats players just hold back a fraction not wanting to risk injury pre-finals? Or does the bye after the last round put that idea to bed somewhat.

Zero chance. Cant take the foot off the pedal or flirt with form.

 

[Macca43]

I don't rate him (have made that clear in multiple game threads) but he was ok Saturday, nothing special but did some ok things. Keeps his spot I my opinion and then, if I was in charge, delist (or rookie)

Nah, waste of time keeping him in, let Stocker or Cuningham have a crack or just go back to the side as selected last week with Weitering coming in.

 

[jezza25]

Starting to do my prep work for Saturday’s game. For those going here’s a map of the ground.
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Where are you sitting ?

 

[Bordertoon]

Even in the darker hours of this season, I just had a funny feeling that we might do something special in this game, although I must admit that I didn’t think that the Cats would have anything to play for, as it looked like there would be daylight between them at the top of the ladder and second place. To gauge how both teams are travelling atm, I got odds of 11 to 1 on us to win in early July, and these odds have since been slashed in half, despite our injury woes.

Hopefully Weiters comes back in, but I suspect it’s too soon to make Cuningham a realistic chance. As they did with North, Geelong will obviously attempt to do their python impersonation on us, strangling us for goal scoring opportunities. As an intelligent attack-minded coach, however, I think that Teaguey will have a plan that stands a decent chance of success, so long as our boys play with the hardness and composure required to implement it. If we can capitalise on their dubious ruck situation, thereby winning the ball out of the centre and from stoppages, then I reckon we’re a chance here, as long as we can lower our eyes and kick intelligently into our forward 50.

Last swing for the season Blueboys, so swing long and swing hard, so as to maximise our chances of finishing off this rollercoaster of a season with the exclamation mark that it now deserves!

 

[Robbo's my hero]

Where are you sitting ?

The Patrick Cripps Terrace.

 

[norway blue]

Waiting for teams.


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[Mr_Plow]

Based on injury report, Lang is a definite out, Weitering likely to play, Gibbons is a test and Cuningham is in the mix.

So...

In: Weitering, Cuningham
Out: Kennedy, Lang

 

[Aphrodite]

Based on injury report, Lang is a definite out, Weitering likely to play, Gibbons is a test and Cuningham is in the mix.

So...

In: Weitering, Cuningham
Out: Kennedy, Lang

Sounds good.

 

[Blubagger71]

A big VIC club like ours shouldn't have to play there though...stadium capacity is only 36,000.

Getting a bit precious. They are top end and we are 16th. We have a bit to prove yet.

 

[Blubagger71]

Cats and Lions taking full advantage of the home ground situation...

bit unfair....its dragging on,we need to defeat them last round.Blues defeat Geelong by 2 Goals...Weiters in,Cunno in

Lions academy and Neafl has been unbelievably good past few years..plus they had easy draw in 2019 plus Hodge hiding as captain/coach..

sneaky....

wonder if bubble will pop?

We will get that same advantage next year. Improved squad, easier draw. Let's take advantage.

 

[F_therest]

Getting a bit precious. They are top end and we are 16th. We have a bit to prove yet.

It's about crowd numbers that we are likely to pull. Plenty of other lower crowd drawing clubs that could play at GMHBA, like interstate clubs and Dogs/Saints types.

 

[JohnnyFontane90]

Carltons last month (in reverse order saints, rich, west coast, Adelaide, WLLW)
Contested ball +4 +17 +17 +22
Uncontested ball +7 -32 -18 +20
Turnovers -11 -6 -9 -12
Marks +22 -3 -10 +26
Contested marks +10 +3 -8 +4
Intercepts +11 +6 -9 -12
Tackles +9 -9 +1 -16
One percenters -6 -16 +7 +5
Clearances -12 -1 +12 +23
Inside 50s +4 -16 -2 0

Geelongs last month (Brisbane, North, freo, Sydney, LWLW)
Contested ball -9 +24 -12 +29
Uncontested ball -31 +25 -35 +2
Turnovers +1 +3 +2 -12
Marks -38 +23 -13 +26
Contested marks -4 -2 +2+13
Intercepts -2 -3 -2 -7
Tackles +1 0 -15 -12
One percenters -10 +19 -13 +16
Clearances 0 +20 +4 +18
Inside 50s 0 +28 -15 +3

When they win they win the clearances and contested/uncontested ball. But when they lose they give up marks uncontested and contested ball. We are very good at marks. Contested and uncontested. We aren’t very good at the uncontested ball. Being in Geelong this ground is often very contested and they like to give up the boundary and force you to kick to a contest. Considering our marking prowess we match up quite well at GMHBA stadium.

Last year we lost by 28 points with 5.15 to 11.7

Possible team changes from last year:
Carlton
Out: lamb, Curnow, Wright, Kerridge, cuningham, Kerr, Jones, Rowe, O’Shea
In: Gibbons, Casboult, McGovern, Walsh, Newman, Murphy, Silvagni, setterfield, Kennedy

Geelong
Out: Crameri, Gregson, Murdoch, cunico, Jones, black, Menegola
In: Dahlhaus, Atkins, O’Connor, Narkle, Miers Taylor Henderson

Also Geelong kicked the first 5 goals of the game and the last 3. That’s 8 out of their total due to poor starts which we sort of still have and our lack of fitness which we don’t have anymore. I’d say we will get them on the outside just like Brisbane did.

6 rushed behinds suggest issues connecting forward which we’ve fixed. We beat them up 51-47 inside 50s but they have 8 inside 50 marks while we resorted to rushed shots at goal. SPS missed 3 times. Kerr and McKay without only 2 inside 50 marks. They missed 3 times between them. Dow missed twice.

Having an improved forward 50 set up with tall markers and better crumbing smalls we should get much closer and be more accurate. Not a lot has to improve and we win. But we have heaps of improvement on last game.

the point that our style is suited to the cats ground is a very good one.

In addition here is the form lines since teague took over:
Carl: 6-4 103% which includes gold coast but also the other 3 top 4 teams
Gee: 5-5 118% which includes only 2 games vs top 4 teams

We've played common teams sydney, fremantle, brisbane, richmond, st kilda, bulldogs, crows in that run. We're both 4-3 in those games.

We certainly shouldn't be favorites given that geelong are notoriously hard to beat at home, but we're in with much more of a shot than most seem to be giving us.

 

[Blubagger71]

It's about crowd numbers that we are likely to pull. Plenty of other lower crowd drawing clubs that could play at GMHBA, like interstate clubs and Dogs/Saints types.

They deserve the home ground opportunity and revenue though.

 

[F_therest]

Based on injury report, Lang is a definite out, Weitering likely to play, Gibbons is a test and Cuningham is in the mix.

So...

In: Weitering, Cuningham
Out: Kennedy, Lang

Interesting that Lang has been managing an ankle injury...just something to consider when assessing his performance.

Let's not forget he's playing out of position as a forward...at Geelong he was a mid who sometimes played half back.
Gibbons, Deluca, Dow & Fisher are other mids who are struggling a little bit in the forward role.

I think he's been servicable and should have a spot on the list next year, depending on who we bring in. Certainly would keep him over Polson.

 

[F_therest]

They deserve the home ground opportunity and revenue though.

Fine, but play another club who would not pull as large a crowd as us. That's my point.

 

[F_therest]

Based on injury report, Lang is a definite out, Weitering likely to play, Gibbons is a test and Cuningham is in the mix.

So...

In: Weitering, Cuningham
Out: Kennedy, Lang

They might choose to not risk Gibbons since he pulled up sore, even if there isn't any structural damage. Last game of the season.

In which case Kennedy stays in, Gibbo goes out imo.

 

[David Sylvian]

Interesting that Lang has been managing an ankle injury...just something to consider when assessing his performance.

Let's not forget he's playing out of position as a forward...at Geelong he was a mid who sometimes played half back.
Gibbons, Deluca, Dow & Fisher are other mids who are struggling a little bit in the forward role.

I think he's been servicable and should have a spot on the list next year, depending on who we bring in. Certainly would keep him over Polson.

If you had said this about Lang four weeks ago I wouldn't have believed you

 

[Blubagger71]

Fine, but play another club who would not pull as large a crowd as us. That's my point.

They can only play the draw they are given.

 

[Mr_Plow]

They might choose to not risk Gibbons since he pulled up sore, even if there isn't any structural damage. Last game of the season.

In which case Kennedy stays in, Gibbo goes out imo.

I think that is a likely scenario.

Poor Cuningham, cops a knee to the kidneys in training and then a knee hyperextension in training which derails his season. Such a shame, looked menacing in pre-season and round 1.

Would love to see him finish the year in the seniors, preferably with a win, would be good for his emotional wellbeing.

In: Weitering, Cuningham
Out: Gibbons, Lang

 

[WalshYouLegend]

Watch The Teague Train steam over ‘em!

 

[Accidental genius]

Based on injury report, Lang is a definite out, Weitering likely to play, Gibbons is a test and Cuningham is in the mix.

So...

In: Weitering, Cuningham
Out: Kennedy, Lang

Last game of season and nothing serious to play for...why risk cunners when his knee was still heavily strapped last week?

 

[Red_man2008]

In: cuningham, Weitering
Out: Lang, Deluca

Done. Bring on GMHBA

 

[Mr_Plow]

Last game of season and nothing serious to play for...why risk cunners when his knee was still heavily strapped last week?

If he was playing football last week and he pulled up fine, he can play football this week. Football is football.