USA Roe, the evangelicals and the war on choice

[bourbons]

That seems to be a lot of information. My question was simply with regards to the statement of gerrymandering. So I ask again, are there states that have governments which didn't win the popular vote?

How about 3 of the SC judges that enabled the RvW overturn being appointed by a bloke who lost 2 popular votes? Any thoughts there?

 

[Chief]

did they though?

Yes.

When you call something "settled law" you don't then go and overturn that law.

That indicates you never thought the law was settled.

 

[Nikita Blue]

Jesus


Risking the life of a mother of 2 coz they're so ideologically head****ed they won't allow her to terminate a non-viable pregnancy. So "pro life"

All going well eh Stokey?

Just staggering.

 

[Spearman]

Just staggering.

These MFs are true believers. They had an out to show they have compassion, common sense etc. and instead went all in.
Texas GOP are beyond caring about optics. It will be interesting how the state votes in next elections. I'm not holding my breath though.

 

[Gough]

Forced birther and all round piece of human filth Mike Pence signing munitions designed to kill. Gazans don't have a right to life it would seem.

 

[GreyWind]

Idaho has had it's inhumane abortion laws upheld. Women are going to die as a result of these laws. What a ****ing shit country.

US supreme court allows Idaho’s strict abortion ban to stand pending hearing

Biden administration had argued hospitals receiving Medicare funds are required to provide emergency care, including abortion

www.theguardian.com

 

[Chief]

It's just until another procedure takes place:

The US supreme court on Friday allowed Idaho to enforce its strict abortion ban, even in medical emergencies, while a legal fight continues.

The justices said they would hear arguments in April and put on hold a lower court ruling that had blocked the Idaho law in hospital emergencies, based on a lawsuit filed by the Biden administration.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Just staggering.

Will that make her a criminal on her return to Texas? ****ing stupid Hicksville state.

 

[cartwright]

11 year old shot in Iowa, going back to school last week.

“Pro-life” only when it’s a woman’s medical decision.

 

[Werewolf]

11 year old shot in Iowa, going back to school last week.

“Pro-life” only when it’s a woman’s medical decision.

Only in America

 

[Present Not Past]

11 year old shot in Iowa, going back to school last week.

“Pro-life” only when it’s a woman’s medical decision.

There's an irony here.
Trump said to Iowa, get over it, it's not a gun issue.
The Supreme Court said to American women, get over it, it's not a male penis issue.

 

[GreyCrow]

 

[faible]

They just make up any old bullshit, the voters don't care, it's a team sport now.

 

[Maggie5]

Interesting hearing coming up.

The U.S. Supreme Court will hear oral arguments on March 26 in the case that could significantly curtail access to a prescription drug used for both abortions and miscarriage care.

The case centers on when and how patients can access mifepristone, a pharmaceutical the U.S. Food and Drug Administration originally approved in 2000.

https://www.axios.com/2023/12/13/supreme-court-abortion-pill-mifepristone-case

 

[western royboy]

Next level idiotry

 

[Satan]

And in relation to ivf
Alabama supreme court that embryos are now children

After Ruling, University of Alabama at Birmingham Health System Pauses I.V.F. Procedures

 

[Father Jack]

They have actually made a ruling based on a book of myth, legend and fantasy.

The American Taliban is emboldened and on the move.

In his concurring opinion last week, Chief Justice Tom Parker, an elected Republican, invoked similar reasoning.

"In summary, the theologically based view of the sanctity of life adopted by the People of Alabama encompasses the following: (1) God made every person in His image; (2) each person therefore has a value that far exceeds the ability of human beings to calculate; and (3) human life cannot be wrongfully destroyed without incurring the wrath of a holy God, who views the destruction of His image as an affront to Himself."

Alabama justice invoked 'the wrath of a holy God' in IVF opinion. Is that allowed?

 

[dewcefault]

They have actually made a ruling based on a book of myth, legend and fantasy.

The American Taliban is emboldened and on the move.



Alabama justice invoked 'the wrath of a holy God' in IVF opinion. Is that allowed?

What's funny is that Alabama still has the death penalty which is a position that should be very difficult to support if you truly believe all of that

Somehow I don't think the people of Alabama would agree

 

[Father Jack]

What's funny is that Alabama still has the death penalty which is a position that should be very difficult to support if you truly believe all of that

Somehow I don't think the people of Alabama would agree

I assume that's why they inserted 'wrongfully destroyed' in there, to give them an out to murder anyone they see fit in the name of their god.

Of course if they felt that strongly about it they would have to get rid of the death penalty anyway lest any innocent godlike lives are wrongfully destroyed by accident, but I assume that just gets waved away somehow

 

[GreyWind]

If Alabama really cared they wouldn't have the worst maternal mortality rate in the US and the third worst infant morality rate.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

All three newly appointed Justices reaffirmed at their hearing that R v W was settled law.

The thing that gets my goat is that Roe vs Wade was at its heart an interpretation of the right to privacy, or the right not to disclose reasons for medical procedure.

It was NEVER codified as a human right.

According to this there were quite a few years in which U.S Democrats enjoyed majorities in both their Congress and Senate

Control of House and Senate since 1900 | The Spokesman-Review

Will the Republicans retain control of the Senate after Election Day in November? Or will Democrats wrestle it away from them and run both chambers on Capitol Hill? It’s way too early to say. Here’s how control of the House and Senate have shifted over the past 120 years:

www.spokesman.com

From 1973 till 1981 they had majority in both, then from 1987 to 1995, then from 2007 to 2011. In all those times nobody pushed for reproductive rights to be codified?

Roe vs Wade was just an interpretation of law, and interpretation is only as strong as the legal teams pushing for and against. In hindsight it is amazing that it was upheld for so long. It's a lesson to be learned - if you want human rights set them in legal concrete instead of making them out of balsa wood for f*ck's sake.

 

[Gralin]

The thing that gets my goat is that Roe vs Wade was at its heart an interpretation of the right to privacy, or the right not to disclose reasons for medical procedure.

It was NEVER codified as a human right.

According to this there were quite a few years in which U.S Democrats enjoyed majorities in both their Congress and Senate

Control of House and Senate since 1900 | The Spokesman-Review

Will the Republicans retain control of the Senate after Election Day in November? Or will Democrats wrestle it away from them and run both chambers on Capitol Hill? It’s way too early to say. Here’s how control of the House and Senate have shifted over the past 120 years:

www.spokesman.com

From 1973 till 1981 they had majority in both, then from 1987 to 1995, then from 2007 to 2011. In all those times nobody pushed for reproductive rights to be codified?

Roe vs Wade was just an interpretation of law, and interpretation is only as strong as the legal teams pushing for and against. In hindsight it is amazing that it was upheld for so long. It's a lesson to be learned - if you want human rights set them in legal concrete instead of making them out of balsa wood for f*ck's sake.

much more in fundraising off the back of it not being protected than actually doing anything about that

like many things in America,you need to elect us to protect you from the bad Republicans

oh we didnt do anything sorry, you need to elect us again for the same reasons

we get it here now too

with the parties mail dropping people asking for donations to help fund by elections to stop xxx from getting in and ruining everything

its all about keeping power or regaining power, that is the only result they care about

 

[GreyCrow]

My blood boils at the thought of these people having this power

 

[Satan]

My blood boils at the thought of these people having this power

I am angry and sad

 

[ferball]

The thing that gets my goat is that Roe vs Wade was at its heart an interpretation of the right to privacy, or the right not to disclose reasons for medical procedure.

It was NEVER codified as a human right.

According to this there were quite a few years in which U.S Democrats enjoyed majorities in both their Congress and Senate

Control of House and Senate since 1900 | The Spokesman-Review

Will the Republicans retain control of the Senate after Election Day in November? Or will Democrats wrestle it away from them and run both chambers on Capitol Hill? It’s way too early to say. Here’s how control of the House and Senate have shifted over the past 120 years:

www.spokesman.com

From 1973 till 1981 they had majority in both, then from 1987 to 1995, then from 2007 to 2011. In all those times nobody pushed for reproductive rights to be codified?

Roe vs Wade was just an interpretation of law, and interpretation is only as strong as the legal teams pushing for and against. In hindsight it is amazing that it was upheld for so long. It's a lesson to be learned - if you want human rights set them in legal concrete instead of making them out of balsa wood for f*ck's sake.

This stuff should be covered by the ninth amendment in the Bill of Rights tho.

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

The US courts have consistently ignored it too. Fraudulent campaigners that they are.