Analysis Rolling All-Australian team for 2021

[port_adelaide_1870]

Here's my AA prediction. It's not who I think should be in it, but simply who I think will be. Its based on prior performance, current performance, who plays in top teams and the biases of the various selectors.

B Keath, May, Stewart
HB Short, Lever, Salem
C Treloar, Boak, McLuggage
HF Martyn, Walker, Bontempelli
F Greene, Riewoldt, Allen
R Gawn, Petracca, Macrae
Int Nic Nat, Naughton, Oliver, Wines

Based off that criteria I would say Aliir would be in. Lots of hype, commentators have been saying he is the new Rance, plus we have Tredrea as a selector.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Based off that criteria I would say Aliir would be in. Lots of hype, commentators have been saying he is the new Rance, plus we have Tredrea as a selector.

Anyone saying the new Rance needs probably take a step back and chill...

He could get in but he is a long way off Rance

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Anyone saying the new Rance needs probably take a step back and chill...

He could get in but he is a long way off Rance

I agree, but commentators often get a head of themselves and look silly.

 

[blues4flag]

Most midfielders in AA contention would be the same. Not overly that impressive to be honest, it’s only 6 games. He is miles away from AA

plus only has 21 votes, Mundy number 1 has 38

Clearly no idea. Walsh is starting 18 in most teams, both in this thread and the media. 5 of 6 is excellent considering we've only won 2 games.

 

[showemhowtorock]

Clearly no idea. Walsh is starting 18 in most teams, both in this thread and the media. 5 of 6 is excellent considering we've only won 2 games.

there's alot of players out there that are starting 18 in most team, doesn't make them aa

 

[blues4flag]

there's alot of players out there that are starting 18 in most team, doesn't make them aa

By most teams I mean most AA teams.

 

[showemhowtorock]

By most teams I mean most AA teams.

In that case, i can think of at least 18 other midfielders i'd take before him lol

 

[blues4flag]

In that case, i can think of at least 18 other midfielders i'd take before him lol

Hence the most. Consensus opinion is that Walsh is in after 6 rounds.

 

[blues4flag]

Most midfielders in AA contention would be the same. Not overly that impressive to be honest, it’s only 6 games. He is miles away from AA

plus only has 21 votes, Mundy number 1 has 38

Over a longer period, he's now polled in 13 of his last 17 games (polled in 8 of the last 11 last year). Remarkably consistent for a 20 year old in a middle of the table side.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Over a longer period, he's now polled in 13 of his last 17 games (polled in 8 of the last 11 last year). Remarkably consistent for a 20 year old in a middle of the table side.

Still wouldn’t be aa so many ahead of him

 

[300Weatherby]

AA selectors (and folks on here) are always heavily biased towards the players from the top teams.

Very difficult for deserving players from the bottom teams to earn AA selection. e.g. Changkuoth Jiath

9

Changkuoth Jiath

Age

25

Ht

185cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.5

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

9.5

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.5

4star

MG

91.0

1star

No current season stats available

D

14.5

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

9.5

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.5

4star

MG

91.0

2star

has been dynamite off half back in the first 6 rounds. Absolute game-breaker. Incredible intercepts and rebounds. Has hardly put a foot wrong, too. The occasional blunder, but he more than makes up for that.

I get that he's a new kid on the block, so people are treating him as a novelty act rather than a serious AA candidate.

Yet I see people mentioning the likes of Daniel Rich

10

Daniel Rich

Age

34

Ht

183cm

Wt

95kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.7

5star

K

12.6

5star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.2

5star

MG

430.3

5star

D

14.9

4star

K

13.1

5star

HB

1.8

1star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.0

2star

MG

384.3

5star

D

16.2

4star

K

10.4

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

5.2

5star

and Daniel Houston ahead of him. Both very good players... but I know one thing for certain: if either of those guys played for the Hawks, there's no way either of them would be in the conversation for All Australian team.

Rich is one of those defenders whose stats are always inflated from taking the kick-ins. (Others: Lloyd, Docherty, Short, Dale, Burton, Stewart, Ryan)

Salem and Jiath have clearly been the 2 best half back flankers over the first 6 rounds. It’s not even close.

I’d have Ridley next, followed by Houston, Lloyd, Rich and Impey

AA is mostly a reward for players from the Top 8 teams. History has proved that. It would be good if muppet selectors like Luke Darcy would share the love around instead of always playing favourites from the top teams.

Just on the stats being inflated due to the kick-ins, what a farce the AFL has created with that rule, absolutely ridiculous.

Oh, and Jiath well and truly deserves a spot in the AA atm. His worst game was against Melbourne, but every other game has been all quality, great find and development by the Hawks.

 

[Juddernaut08]

AA selectors (and folks on here) are always heavily biased towards the players from the top teams.

Very difficult for deserving players from the bottom teams to earn AA selection. e.g. Changkuoth Jiath has been dynamite off half back in the first 6 rounds. Absolute game-breaker. Incredible intercepts and rebounds. Has hardly put a foot wrong, too. The occasional blunder, but he more than makes up for that.

I get that he's a new kid on the block, so people are treating him as a novelty act rather than a serious AA candidate.

Yet I see people mentioning the likes of Daniel Rich and Daniel Houston ahead of him. Both very good players... but I know one thing for certain: if either of those guys played for the Hawks, there's no way either of them would be in the conversation for All Australian team.

Rich is one of those defenders whose stats are always inflated from taking the kick-ins. (Others: Lloyd, Docherty, Short, Dale, Burton, Stewart, Ryan)

Salem and Jiath have clearly been the 2 best half back flankers over the first 6 rounds. It’s not even close.

I’d have Ridley next, followed by Houston, Lloyd, Rich and Impey

AA is mostly a reward for players from the Top 8 teams. History has proved that. It would be good if muppet selectors like Luke Darcy would share the love around instead of always playing favourites from the top teams.

Excellent post.

On the kick-ins thing. Docherty has actually been one of our worst players this year (IMO), but his stats look great because of this rule. There should be some other stat called "kick-ins" which doesn't count to disposal tally. Treat it like hitouts.

 

[00Stinger]

Excellent post.

On the kick-ins thing. Docherty has actually been one of our worst players this year (IMO), but his stats look great because of this rule. There should be some other stat called "kick-ins" which doesn't count to disposal tally. Treat it like hitouts.

Missing 2 years of footy from knee recos has caught up to Docherty imo

 

[Juddernaut08]

Missing 2 years of footy from knee recos has caught up to Docherty imo

plus cancer

 

[Chinacats]

Tommy Stewart at half back at the moment...Allir would be ahead of Moore (played in different position) and Andrews at the minute.

 

[AFDogs]

I'll have a go:

FB: Stewart Keath May
HB: Short Lever Laird
C: Treloar Steele McLuggage
HF: Greene Walker Fyfe
FF: Martin McKay Boak
R: Gawn Macrae Petracca
INT: Walsh Parish Grundy Bont

Few blokes out of position but can't not have Fyfe and Boak in there.

Stiff: Oliver, Allen, Naughton, Guthrie, Riewoldt, Salem, Aliir

Sydney going great but they're a well spread team without any out and out superstars IMO

 

[00Stinger]

plus cancer

Yeah good call, had forgotten about that

 

[Funbeanman]

The way David Mundy is playing this season he must be in the all Australian conversation

 

[Juddernaut08]

The way David Mundy is playing this season he must be in the all Australian conversation

Agreed. would have to be one of the oldest aa to make it too. is he 35?

 

[Nunez]

Dan Rich is a lock at this stage.

 

[Sttew]

The way David Mundy is playing this season he must be in the all Australian conversation

Could be in the Brownlow conversation too

 

[BarbieITFC]

Over a longer period, he's now polled in 13 of his last 17 games (polled in 8 of the last 11 last year). Remarkably consistent for a 20 year old in a middle of the table side.

Middle of the table - don't flatter yourself ;-)

 

[crows dude]

I'll have a go:

FB: Stewart Keath May
HB: Short Lever Laird
C: Treloar Steele McLuggage
HF: Greene Walker Fyfe
FF: Martin McKay Boak
R: Gawn Macrae Petracca
INT: Walsh Parish Grundy Bont

Few blokes out of position but can't not have Fyfe and Boak in there.

Stiff: Oliver, Allen, Naughton, Guthrie, Riewoldt, Salem, Aliir

Sydney going great but they're a well spread team without any out and out superstars IMO

Laird has been in the centre the last year and this year. If he makes the AA team it wont be at half back

 

[Simon Crawshay]

Could be in the Brownlow conversation too

He is leading the coaches votes at the moment which is a decent effort for a 35 year old!

 

[danster168]

I just wanted to say that this year has shown just how sh!t Nic Nat is compared to Gawn and grundy. The guy does NOTHING around the ground and this year has shown how his selection last year was a disgrace.