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Any players in particular? I think Michael Hibberd wouldnt be a bad pickup but really best available would be our option

I think Hibbard would be a brilliant pickup but not entirely certain that he will be available and GWS might just be onto him along with Sewell.


These are the ones I like:

Matthew Rankine (really wanted him at 60 and would still be high on my list. ideal crumbing forward option with serious midfield potential, a little surprised he didn't go in the national draft, would love him in the rookie draft!)

Thomas Gordon (talented KPP. would have loved him with one of those late selections!)

Ben Brown (not sure if a club is going to give this kid a shot. only didn't get drafted because of injury during the champs. I would have been willing to part with a 2nd rounder to secure this kid if there was demand, but fortunately there isn't a whole lot. really talented kid who would be the ideal Leigh Brown replacement. such a natural forward and is not bad in the ruck either. Give this kid a shot for me Derek?)

Nathan Phillips (dominated the WAFL. been onto this one for a while but I think he is a worthwhile investment as a Paul Medhurst replacement. has the ability to push into the midfield. could play a little earlier than some think)


Others who are rumoured to be on our list: (outside of Phillips)
Dan Nicholson
Tyler Chalwell
Rhys Cooyou
Callum Sinclair
Isiah Stevens
 
Having a look at how we just drafted, we probably don't need another medium forward type i.e. Phillips.

However, as is the nature of the rookie draft, best available or if you are feeling clucky, it's the perfect opportunity to take some risks.
 

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Hey guys, posted this on the Drafts & Tradings board, think it may help a few people out with rookie predicitions, any ways, the list of players who are available for the PSD/Rookie drafts are:

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medium midfielders
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rhys cooyou, 181cm, 68kg, 22/3/1991 (WA)
caleb shadbolt 181cm, 78kg, 21 y.o (WA)
stephen clifton, 184cm, 89kg, 23 y.o (Vic)
jackson sketcher, 182cm, 82kg, 17/2/1992 (Vic)
ed curnow, 180cm, 82kg, 17/11/1989
johnathan beech, 185cm, 81kg, 9/11/1990 (SA)
jackson bolton, 183cm, 72kg, 15/7/1992 (Vic)
mitch carter, 184cm, 80kg, 2/7/1991 (WA)
josh duncan, 182cm, 82kg, 21.6.1991 (NSW)
michael evans, 182cm, 75kg, 28/2/1992 (WA)
mitch gent, 183cm, 78kg, 5/2/1992 (Vic)
taylor gilchrist, 190cm, 74kg, 19/10/1990 (Vic)
cameron grover, 176cm, 73kg, 21/12/1992 (WA)
scott hancock, 182cm, 78kg, 11.5.1992 (WA)
brad harvey, 185cm, 83kg, 16/4/1992 (Vic)
jason johannisen, 176cm, 67kg, 8/11/1992 (WA)
mitch keddel, 185cm, 89kg, 7.8.1988 (Vic)
adam kennedy, 181cm, 72kg, 12/7/1992 (Vic)
joel latham, 180kg, 74kg, d.o.b?
archie longbottom, 182cm, 80kg, 19y.o (SA)
adam marcon, 181cm, 79kg, 28/7/1992 (Vic)
liam mckenna,182cm, 84kg, 18/4/1992 (WA)
alex mcleod, 181cm, 72kg, 28/1/1992 (Vic)
david mirra, 186cm, 82kg, 28/2/1992 (Vic)
aaron mullet, 184cm, 73kg, 23/2/1992 (Vic)
dan nicholson, 183cm, 76kg, 2/11/1990 (Vic)
matthew outridge, 180cm, 74kg, 22/6/1992 (WA)
ryan pendlebury, 189cm, 85kg, 2/8/1992 (Vic)
shannon rioli, 174cm, 74kg, 25/5/1992 (WA)
myles sewell, 185cm, 77kg, 10/2/1988 (Vic)
matthew snook, 179cm, 71kg, 26/3/1992 (SA)
isiah stevens, 183cm, 75kg, 9/9/1992 (WA)
aaron sweet, 185cm, 85kg, 27/1/1989 (WA)
ryan wilson, 181cm, 73kg, 29/4/1992
alex elliseou, 174cm, 70kg, 30/1/1992

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ruckmen
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luke adams, 196cm, 88kg, 10/8/1991 (WA)
ben brown, 197cm, 87kg, 5.5.1992 (Tas)
leif cope, 204cm, 101kg, 22/8/1992 (Vic)
mitch curnow, 201cm, 84kg, 22/12/1992 (SA)
johnathan giles, 199cm, 101kg, 8/1/1988 (SA)
brandyn grenfel, 198cm, 84kg, 9/5/1992 (Vic)
joseph groenwegen, 196cm, 84kg, 25/10/1992 (Tas)
josh jenkins, 197cm, 104kg, 8/2/1989 (Vic)
matt jones, 200cm, 86kg, 12/10/1992 (WA)
josh marchbank, 200cm, 87kg, 14/2/1992 (Vic)
james orr, 199cm, 89kg, 8/8/1990 (Vic)
andrew phillips, 200cm, 86kg, 3/7/1991 (Tas)
declan reilly, 197cm, 84kg, 9/12/1992 (Vic)
alex simpson, 202cm, 91kg, 10/3/1990 (Vic)

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medium defenders
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riley heddles, 180cm, 80kg, 15/1/1992 (Vic)
nathan batley, 185cm, 74kg, 16/9/1992 (SA)
fraser brown, 187cm, 77kg, 20/11/1992 (NSW)
kieran butcher, 180cm, 78kg, 2/3/1992 (WA)
ken campbell, 175cm, 73kg, 21/10/1992 (SA)
ben casley, 189cm, 86kg, 18/3/1992 (Vic)
tom durwood, 188cm, 80kg, 1/12/1990 (Vic)
michael hibberd, 185cm, 85kg, 3/1/1990 (Vic)
tyson hunt, 188cm, 78kg, 7/1/1991 (Vic)
michael huchinson, 189cm, 75kg, 14/1/1991 (Qld)
matt hutton, 183cm, 77kg, 21/2/1992 (NSW)
daniel kulikowski, 179cm, 83kg, 5/5/1992 (SA)
kelvin lawrence, 177cm, 72kg, 14/10/1992 (WA)
jack mahony, 178cm, 79kg, 7/5/1992 (NSW)
leigh masters, 186cm, 77kg, 22/6/1992 (Vic)
thomas ruggles, 182cm, 79kg, 25/4/1992 (Vic)
blayne wilson, 188cm, 88kg, 26/1/1992 (WA)
stephen witkowski

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tall defenders
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chris luff, 190cm, 86kg, 7/1/1991 (WA)
tom bell, 190cm, 94kg, 13/6/1991 (Qld)
tyler chalwell, 192cm, 84kg, 10/3/1992 (WA)
jake crawford, 190cm, 89kg, 5/3/1992 (Qld)
marcus darmody, 190cm, 74kg, 19 y.o (Vic)
jackson ferguson, 193cm, 83kg, 23/10/1992 (NSW)
tom gordon, 194cm, 91kg, 19/4/1992 (Vic)
david kruse, 190cm, 74kg, 23/1/1992 (NT)
justin monaco, 192cm, 86kg, 7/11/1992 (WA)
dan noonan, 193cm, 92kg, 1/10/1990 (Vic)
max otten, 191cm, 83kg, 10/11/1992 (Vic)
larry owen, 194cm, 83kg, 8/8/1992 (Tas)
nick perry, 190cm, 73kg, 10/6/1992 (NSW)
alex rintoul, 193cm, 82kg, 23/9/1992 (Vic)
brayden salton, 197cm, 89kg, 19/8/1992 (Vic)
tim seagrave, 192cm, 88kg, 3/2/1992 (NSW)
michael talia, 191cm, 86kg, 2/11/1993 (Vic)
jordan treloar, 192cm, 84kg, 12/12/1992 (Vic)
kyle hartigan, 194cm, 89kg, 7/1/1991 (Vic)

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small forwards
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joel o driscol, 178cm, 77kg, 20/1/1992 (WA)
nathan ahmat watkins, 186cm, 76kg, 18/2/1992 (NT)
sam gray, 174cm, 77kg, 1/2/1992 (SA)
rowan brookes, 185cm, 82kg, 8/5/1992 (WA)
james brain, 179cm, 76kg, 5/8/1992 (NSW)
sam cust, 181cm, 67kg, 26/8/1992 (Vic)
luke dalhaus, 178cm, 74kg, 21/8/1992 (Vic)
jordan eades, 178cm, 71kg,6/10/1992 (WA)
aaron elari, 173cm, 73kg, 24/4/1991 (WA)
jamie elliot, 176cm, 71kg, 21/8/1992 (Vic)
rowan garlet, 179cm, 75kg, 5/2/1992 (Vic)
cameron johnston, 181cm, 78kg, 24/2/1992 (Vic)
anthony kyanga, 169cm, 64kg, 19/3/1990 (WA)
tim milera, 171cm, 74kg, 9/12/1992 (SA)
dionysius munkara, 173cm, 64kg, 19/1/1992 (NT)
kane murphy, 168cm, 60kg, 1/12/1992 (Vic)
jarrod ninyette, 180cm, 65kg, 23/3/1987 (WA)
tim northe, 175cm, 68kg, 24/3/1992 (Vic)
matthew rankine, 179cm, 71kg, 20/2/1992 (SA)
ben reid, 182cm, 69kg, 5/9/1992 (Vic)
dylan ribbons, 180cm, 78kg, 4/3/1992 (SA)
lachlan roach, 178cm, 69kg, 25/4/1992 (SA)
daniel semmens, 177cm, 71kg, 14/2/1992 (Vic)
luke shreeve, 180cm, 75kg, 26/7/1992 (Qld)
kristin thompson, 170cm, 70kg, 20 y.o (SA)
ozgur uysal, 179cm, 75kg, 5/8/1992 (Vic)
hayden yarran, 186cm, 81kg, 30/4/1992 (WA)
keifer yu, 179cm, 78kg, 6/4/1992 (WA)
dylan conway, 185cm, 86kg, 28/1/1992 (Vic)
Ben Ducsher, 181cm, 80kg, 29/7/1987 (Vic)
corey buchan, 188cm, 79kg, 24/5/1992 (Vic)
charlie riewoldt, 183cm, 74kg, 23/9/1992 (Tas)

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tall forwards
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darcy armfield, 188cm, 90kg, 15/1/1992 (SA)
darcy barden, 192cm, 92kg, 13/2/1992 (Vic)
kory beard, 193cm, 88kg, 13/6/1990 (SA)
blake bray, 191cm, 83kg, 7/7/1991 (NSW)
anton hamp, 191cm, 80kg, 21/7/1992 (WA)
ben haren, 196cm, 91kg, 17/10/1992 (SA)
james lawton, 197cm, 87kg, 17/1/1991 (Vic)
jake king, 190cm, 80kg, 13/3/1992 (ACT)
gavin roberts, 188cm, 80kg, 13/3/1991 (SA)
nick ryan, 196cm, 86kg, 31/8/1992 (NSW)
jimmi savage, 195cm, 78kg, 9/10/1992 (SA)
callum sinclair, 200cm, 93kg, 23/9.1989 (Vic)
jamie solly, 190cm, 94kg, 27/7/1992 (SA)
jake von bertouch, 192cm, 79kg, 4/5/1992 (SA)
josh walker, 195cm, 87kg, 12/11/1992 (Vic)

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delisted afl players nominating for PSD/Rookie draft
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Joe Anderson (Carlton)
Jarrod Atkinson (Essendon)
Jaxson Barham (Collingwood)
Jarrad Blight (Collingwood)
Jarrad Boumann (Western Bulldogs)
Steven Browne (Carlton)
Ben Bucovaz (Fremantle)
Ryan Cook (Collingwood)
Anthony Corrie (Collingwood)
Steven Dodd (Fremantle)
Beau Dowler (Hawthorn)
Robert Eddy (St Kilda)
Brad Fisher (Carlton)
Ryan Gamble (Geelong Cats)
Chris Hall (Fremantle)
Chris Johnson (Carlton)
Paul Johnson (Melbourne)
Travis Johnstone (Brisbane Lions)
Tom McNamara (Melbourne)
Luke Miles (St Kilda)
Ryan Murphy (Fremantle)
Jay Nash (Port Adelaide)
Jay Neagle (Essendon)
Brock O'Brien (Fremantle)
Matthew O'Dwyer (Sydney Swans)
Rhys O'Keefe (Carlton)
Tim Ruffles (Fremantle)
Tyson Slattery (Essendon)
Josh Smith (North Melbourne)
Michael Still (Essendon)
Kristin Thornton (Sydney Swans)
Stephen Tiller (Western Bulldogs),
Travis Tuck (Hawthorn)
Beau Wilkes (West Coast
 
I expect a couple of those ex AFL listed players to be picked up almost immediately by GWS ala GC with Harris, Illes and Stanley.

Guys like Eddy and maybe even ex pie Cook could be given a shot. Eddy at the very least...very stiff.

Im still on the Callum Sinclair wagon, i'd love him on our list (wouldve preferred senior list ohwell). Id be just as happy with Frost or Ben Brown... Just some KPP depth is my preference.

Other than that, i really thought Rankine would be a good pick as a rookie and Charlie Reiwoldt would make a good rookie i recon
 
Using that list, I'd consider these guys:
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medium midfielders
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rhys cooyou, 181cm, 68kg, 22/3/1991 (WA)
ed curnow, 180cm, 82kg, 17/11/1989
brad harvey, 185cm, 83kg, 16/4/1992 (Vic)
dan nicholson, 183cm, 76kg, 2/11/1990 (Vic)
ryan pendlebury, 189cm, 85kg, 2/8/1992 (Vic)
shannon rioli, 174cm, 74kg, 25/5/1992 (WA)
myles sewell, 185cm, 77kg, 10/2/1988 (Vic)
isiah stevens, 183cm, 75kg, 9/9/1992 (WA)

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ruckmen
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ben brown, 197cm, 87kg, 5.5.1992 (Tas)

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medium defenders
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kieran butcher, 180cm, 78kg, 2/3/1992 (WA)
michael hibberd, 185cm, 85kg, 3/1/1990 (Vic)
blayne wilson, 188cm, 88kg, 26/1/1992 (WA)

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tall defenders
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chris luff, 190cm, 86kg, 7/1/1991 (WA)
tyler chalwell, 192cm, 84kg, 10/3/1992 (WA)
justin monaco, 192cm, 86kg, 7/11/1992 (WA)
max otten, 191cm, 83kg, 10/11/1992 (Vic)
kyle hartigan, 194cm, 89kg, 7/1/1991 (Vic)

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small forwards
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luke dalhaus, 178cm, 74kg, 21/8/1992 (Vic)
tim milera, 171cm, 74kg, 9/12/1992 (SA)
jarrod ninyette, 180cm, 65kg, 23/3/1987 (WA)
matthew rankine, 179cm, 71kg, 20/2/1992 (SA)
ben reid, 182cm, 69kg, 5/9/1992 (Vic)
ozgur uysal, 179cm, 75kg, 5/8/1992 (Vic)
hayden yarran, 186cm, 81kg, 30/4/1992 (WA)
keifer yu, 179cm, 78kg, 6/4/1992 (WA)
charlie riewoldt, 183cm, 74kg, 23/9/1992 (Tas)

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tall forwards
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darcy armfield, 188cm, 90kg, 15/1/1992 (SA)
darcy barden, 192cm, 92kg, 13/2/1992 (Vic)
anton hamp, 191cm, 80kg, 21/7/1992 (WA)
jimmi savage, 195cm, 78kg, 9/10/1992 (SA)
callum sinclair, 200cm, 93kg, 23/9.1989 (Vic)
jamie solly, 190cm, 94kg, 27/7/1992 (SA)

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delisted afl players nominating for PSD/Rookie draft
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Jarrod Atkinson (Essendon)
Rhys O'Keefe (Carlton)
Tyson Slattery (Essendon)
Josh Smith (North Melbourne)
He also left off a couple - Zac Fitzgerald from SA and Ryan Brabazon from the WAFL.
 
Hey guys, posted this on the Drafts & Tradings board, think it may help a few people out with rookie predicitions, any ways, the list of players who are available for the PSD/Rookie drafts are:

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medium midfielders
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scott hancock, 182cm, 78kg, 11.5.1992 (WA)
archie longbottom, 182cm, 80kg, 19y.o (SA)

Surely we'll get these two guys :p:D
 
BBrown unlikely to be there at our first pick. So I'd hope for Frost as a quick KPP swingman. Second pick likely to be either a small or a positionally NQR tall - Nicholson gives half-back cover, something different to the ND picks, and the NQR might include Chalwell, Savage, Menagola.
 
I think we only have 2 picks so I would probably consider talls (assuming they just dont draft in a few talls on the VFL list).

I would consider (in order);

Chalwell - My favourite player probably in the draft. Is a terrific athlete, tough, got footy ability in spades and is pretty adaptable (played everywhere from Ruck to CHB/ CHF / FF / Wing this year). State coach admits should have played champs and ended up being BOG in Colts final and making COlts team of the year). We have spoken to him so Snoop holds out much hope but I have been disppointed before and will surely be again. FIngers crossed but I think some blokes at GWS might be onto him!

Jack Frost - Kid doesnt get a lot of attention but shows a heap of ability and put in some good TAC games this year. Runs a 2.9s 20m, good vertical leap ,13-14 beep and agility v good. I think Foj1 and I are the only two that rate him.

Zac Fitzgerald - was in the mix to go last year as a FF but was mostly private schooling (albeit didnt stop with GHS). Went to champs this year and absolutely dominated playing both fwd and back. I think he got 2 BOGs and was in the best in every other game. Can take a strong mark, good kick and very clean below the knees. Actually presents like Michael Christian for those that remember him.

Chris Luff - Living proof recruiters dont always get it right. Didnt get taken in any draft last year which surprised many bc (for those that dont remember) he is a taller version of Litherland. Is maybe a bit one dimensional but had a terrific year in the WAFL playing FB and for a club that wants someone like a Scott Thompson (North) he is your man.

Ben Brown - Agree with all on this kid but remember he has been super hyped up on BF off the back of one Champ game vs NT or QLD. Dont get me wrong wouldnt be upset to see him go but just remember Billy Morrison and Danny Roach fellow posters!

Sam Menagola - Tall fwd from WA who like Chalwell should have played Champs but were in the Colts team of the year. Mostly plays fwd but has enough athletic attributes to play other positions on the ground. His foot skills are good and he moves particularly well.

Brayden Grenfell - another who hyped up on BF through the year (incl me after a couple of his later games) but didnt get taken. He is raw and hasnt played a heap of footy but presents a bit like Kosi in potential. Can play Ruck or CHF or CHB so pretty attractive. TEsting was only average and suspect that held him back a bit.

Darcey Barden - hasnt been over hyped at all and recruiters agree but when watching the Metro vs WA game last night to watch Fasolo game you couldnt help but be attracted to Barden work rate. And when you check his testing his beep suggests good enough to get a rookie spot. Bloody shame if he didnt.

Anton Hamp - Bit surprised he didnt go. IMpressive kid who hits the contest pretty well, holds his marks and is a beaut kick for goal. Someone said the other day he plays a bit like Rusling and thats true. Does his best work when leading (he is quick) and getting into space. Another who could easily go back as well albeit dont think he has played there.

Jimmi Savage - I am a huge wrap for this kid but he is super raw. 193cm moves like a gazelle across the savanah and not afraid to throw himself into a contested mark....kid has to much courage. He will take time but another that has many AFL attributes for a quality tall.

Josh Walker - impressive all year without really dominating and interesting to read his coaches acknowledge the weak points in his game have been eradicated.....kicking. Can take a grab, is courageous and a decent shot on goal. I think he may end up back rather than fwd though.

Tom Gordon - Probably not as big a fan as others but I wll agree with the fact he is an elite kick and could potentially play Fwd or Back at senior level

....and no I dont want Jamie Solly. Others like von Bertouch, Crawford (training with Suns I think), Reid, Hutchison, Kruse and Ferguson all interesting types. Didnt consider blokes below 191cm like Wilson, Otten, Roberts etc who I rate but arent tall enough for KP.
 
Hey snoop, you could also consider young Kyle Hartigan a chance I would say.

Started off in the reserves for Werribee, then moved up to the seniors and had a terrific year for a 19 y.o kid. Played against Matt Little and lept him goalless in what was arguably his best game for the year in a surprise upset win against the highly fancied Williamstown outfit.
 
Hey snoop, you could also consider young Kyle Hartigan a chance I would say.

Started off in the reserves for Werribee, then moved up to the seniors and had a terrific year for a 19 y.o kid. Played against Matt Little and lept him goalless in what was arguably his best game for the year in a surprise upset win against the highly fancied Williamstown outfit.

yeah is certainly a chance but I am just wondering whether he has enough development in him to be a good AFL player. More I think of him I just wonder whether he will just an extremely good state league player.

Would suit someone like GWS for next year as would Crurnow, Hibberd, Sewell and Clifton.
 
Could Ash Hansen be a chance for a mature age rookie selection?

The VFL team deson't have any tall KPP that can kick goals and he would also be a handy back up for Dawes and Cloke
 

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Could Ash Hansen be a chance for a mature age rookie selection?

The VFL team deson't have any tall KPP that can kick goals and he would also be a handy back up for Dawes and Cloke

Anythings possible with hine,, but when theres anywhere up to 90 spots left to fill I am not sure what we are going to get, so hes as good as your going to get at a late pick. So have a wish list and i doubt we will get any of them but heres hoping.
 
Any players in particular? I think Michael Hibberd wouldnt be a bad pickup but really best available would be our option

I think Hibbard would be a brilliant pickup but not entirely certain that he will be available and GWS might just be onto him along with Sewell.

Just on Hibberd

Yes he would have an instant impact on any senior AFL team, at 20 years of age he was dominating games from a half back flank. Something you guys really do not need. He is a blend of Harry O'Brien, Heath Shaw and Nick Maxwell in one, so like I said, definitely something to work with but unfortunately I do not think you guys need more back flankers.

Also, I was ready to post a new thread about Myles Sewel and how over rated he actually is. He gets a lot of ball, but he is not damaging with his possessions, he is very unassuming, and I think he may be the first highly acclaimed mature aged players to potentially fail.

I hope not, but just get a feeling the jump to inside midfielder at AFL level will be far to great for his light 77kg frame to handle compared to his light 77kg frame against VFL bodies and young AFL kids.
 
On Sewell, I think you may be right, after all he has now been passed up as a mature aged player in 2 national drafts and one rookie draft, although this time around I think one club will pick him up, even if GWS don't.

As far as having too many half backs go, when choosing rookies, you are thinking of what your team will look like in 2-3 years time, and eve further "down the track", so we might actually consider half backs even though our current stocks look like they are "overflowing".

It will be interesting to see the way the pies go, I'd like to see them pick up some height, and even some "project" types, especially after we went so small and developed (ready to play almost) during the ND.

December the 7th isn't it? (Both the PSD and Rookie Draft).
 
On Sewell, I think you may be right, after all he has now been passed up as a mature aged player in 2 national drafts and one rookie draft, although this time around I think one club will pick him up, even if GWS don't.

As far as having too many half backs go, when choosing rookies, you are thinking of what your team will look like in 2-3 years time, and eve further "down the track", so we might actually consider half backs even though our current stocks look like they are "overflowing".

It will be interesting to see the way the pies go, I'd like to see them pick up some height, and even some "project" types, especially after we went so small and developed (ready to play almost) during the ND.

December the 7th isn't it? (Both the PSD and Rookie Draft).

Yeah, fair point about the "down the track" comment :thumbsu:

One thing with Michael is, why do they play him down back? I watched him in a half last year turn a game on it's head when he was switched to a wing, and his second half was nearly the match winner.

He is good offensively whilst still having a defensive mindset, he is extremely good overhead for someone his size and his leg speed is a lot quicker than what may appear. I feel his tank has certainly improved which may be a result of taking up an 'alcohol ban' for himself, since he certainly wants this chance at an AFL career.

So he certainly has all the attributes of being a very good link man off a wing perhaps, whilst still being a back flank option for further down the track.
 
Yeah, fair point about the "down the track" comment :thumbsu:

One thing with Michael is, why do they play him down back? I watched him in a half last year turn a game on it's head when he was switched to a wing, and his second half was nearly the match winner.

He is good offensively whilst still having a defensive mindset, he is extremely good overhead for someone his size and his leg speed is a lot quicker than what may appear. I feel his tank has certainly improved which may be a result of taking up an 'alcohol ban' for himself, since he certainly wants this chance at an AFL career.

So he certainly has all the attributes of being a very good link man off a wing perhaps, whilst still being a back flank option for further down the track.

Sounds like a perfect replacement for Johnson to me. A linking midfielder who can play down back and do defensive roles in the middle as required. Fits in well with the trend that players need to be positionally flexible. A trend that is only going to become more pronounced with the new interchange rules.
 
I found this interesting article on Wilson which is of interest:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...nt-blayne-wilson/story-e6frf9jf-1225957418755

Was an U18 AA player in 09. Under 190cm and plays down back but his kicking is first rate and he is quality. Could play easier rather than later a bit like Fasolo (but probably won't because we have enough strong players to keep them out).

I think he will develop into an AFL quality player, which from the rookie draft is really all you look for. Wouldn't shock me if he played 100+ games.

I think we only have 2 picks so I would probably consider talls (assuming they just dont draft in a few talls on the VFL list).

I would consider (in order);

Chris Luff - Living proof recruiters dont always get it right. Didnt get taken in any draft last year which surprised many bc (for those that dont remember) he is a taller version of Litherland. Is maybe a bit one dimensional but had a terrific year in the WAFL playing FB and for a club that wants someone like a Scott Thompson (North) he is your man.

Ben Brown - Agree with all on this kid but remember he has been super hyped up on BF off the back of one Champ game vs NT or QLD. Dont get me wrong wouldnt be upset to see him go but just remember Billy Morrison and Danny Roach fellow posters!

Brayden Grenfell - another who hyped up on BF through the year (incl me after a couple of his later games) but didnt get taken. He is raw and hasnt played a heap of footy but presents a bit like Kosi in potential. Can play Ruck or CHF or CHB so pretty attractive. TEsting was only average and suspect that held him back a bit.

Josh Walker - impressive all year without really dominating and interesting to read his coaches acknowledge the weak points in his game have been eradicated.....kicking. Can take a grab, is courageous and a decent shot on goal. I think he may end up back rather than fwd though.

Tom Gordon - Probably not as big a fan as others but I wll agree with the fact he is an elite kick and could potentially play Fwd or Back at senior level

Luff is a really good name and glad you mentioned him. Should have gone last year, minimum as a rookie. Had a fantastic season and really deserves a position on a rookie list. Would be amongst the considerations down back and after Hartigan I rate Luff the next best guy down back. 100% agree on you that this one belongs on an AFL list.

I have a bias towards some Tasmanian players, but others I don't have that high up my list. Had B.Brown and A.Phillips higher than most on my list. Green about where he should be and Gilbee a little lower. So I'm not Quigley biased towards Tasmanians. Ben Brown could be a failure, he could develop into a star, he is just one of those kids who needs to be given an opportunity, if he works out. Wow. Risk worth taking and personally rank him higher than Melbourne's pick 12: Lucas Cook.

Grenfell has been spoken about as someone most recruiters believed would go in the national draft, but at the same time no club seems to have been prepaired to give him a shot. Has upside and would be disappointed for him not to make it onto a senior list.

Walker is another name I like and again another very worth rookie. Really surprised he didn't go in the national draft somewhere.

Gordon was expected to go late, but really had my eye on him. Would love him in the rookie draft.

Just on Hibberd

Yes he would have an instant impact on any senior AFL team, at 20 years of age he was dominating games from a half back flank. Something you guys really do not need. He is a blend of Harry O'Brien, Heath Shaw and Nick Maxwell in one, so like I said, definitely something to work with but unfortunately I do not think you guys need more back flankers.

Also, I was ready to post a new thread about Myles Sewel and how over rated he actually is. He gets a lot of ball, but he is not damaging with his possessions, he is very unassuming, and I think he may be the first highly acclaimed mature aged players to potentially fail.

I hope not, but just get a feeling the jump to inside midfielder at AFL level will be far to great for his light 77kg frame to handle compared to his light 77kg frame against VFL bodies and young AFL kids.

Hibbard I haven't really be recommending pre draft on this board because we have enough half back types. With a rookie selection I certainly wouldn't be opposed because Hibbard is quality. He would be at worst depth, but could step into the team if Heath Shaw or other had to miss (Shaw usually misses 5-6 games per year) so I think Hibbard would be a good get. But availability is the issue. Not many other HBFers I'd really consider and would much rather KPPs+forwards otherwise.

Sewell, that is pretty much why he hasn't been selected. I don't think he will have a huge issue with the step up. He has the work ethic and the ability. Nothing flashy and doesn't have standout athleticism or size for an inside player, but he knows how to play, knows where to run and is a great accumulator. There are plenty who agree that he won't make it, but when you are "that" good at one area I'd be very willing to take the chance on a player. Would be one of the first if not the first guy I'd go for in the rookie draft.
Could probably be our alternative to a shut down player because he can play those run with roles, then also accumulate and still be productive from an offensive standpoint.
Wasn't shocked at all to see Sewell miss out on going in the national draft and expected it, but I think he would be a fantastic rookie selection for the club who take a chance.

Will be interesting to see how both of these VFL boys go at the next level if given the opportunity.
 
Jack Frost - Kid doesnt get a lot of attention but shows a heap of ability and put in some good TAC games this year. Runs a 2.9s 20m, good vertical leap ,13-14 beep and agility v good. I think Foj1 and I are the only two that rate him.
Gotta say, I'd be a bit concerned at adding a mythical character to our list, especially one with the power of freezing.
 
With our first pick at 26 in the rookie draft, I am expecting players of the quality of Casey-Leigh and Carter to be taken by the Pies. Almost a non event for us.
 

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