Reportedly GWS contract offer wasn't what Lobb thought he was worth
Recommitted Rory Lobb [trade is off, staying at Fremantle]
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Reportedly GWS contract offer wasn't what Lobb thought he was worth
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As ruck he sure is. Check out the amount of hit outs he has got the last two years. I get hes playing fwd but as a fwd he struggles.
Compare Marshall's season last year to Lobbs. It's like chalk and cheese.
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Marshall is elite, I dont think anyone thinks Lobb is as good as Marshall. Lobb is a good fwd/ruck, Marshall is a star
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??? What are you two even on about lol.
You don't need to be under salary cap pressure (in fact no-one cares that you have spare room), for this Lobb trade to be a salary dump. Anytime you're DUMPING an overpriced/overpaid player's salary onto another club's books, that's a salary dump. And because the receiving club loses out on salary cap (which is a form of currency), the player's value gets significantly discounted as a result.
And this "needing to find $750,000 for 4 years to spend" idea is even more ridiculous. There are a billion ways for you to capitalize on this additional cap, you can push contracts forward to have more room later on. You can attract FA targets. You can leverage it via creative contract structures by walking your targetted player to the PSD, etc. etc.
Ultimately, it doesn't matter what the situation is, no one wants to pay $700k for a player who barely deserves $350k.
Best case scenario you do a Treloar deal, trade Lobb + multiple later picks across the 2nd and 3rd round + pay a huge amount of Lobb's salary for WBD's pick 17.
But you are not getting anything near the top 10 or even the top 20 in a straight swap if the opposition club has to pay $700k a year for this spud lol, not even WBD who is desperate for a ruck
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We seem to have a different ideas of a salary dump. Just because a trade is done for a player on an inflated contract, does not make it a salary dump. The term has specific connotations of "needing to get rid of the salary"
We dont need to dump Lobb, we dont want to dump Lobb. That is pretty consistent messaging from the club and not one journalist has said Freo are shopping him or want him gone, it's Colin Young shopping him around. It's also common sense since we dont have anyone to replace him with. If Lobb is traded, it will be because some club is willing to pay a stupid price in draft picks to make it happen, not with the intention to clear cap space, even if that's a side benefit
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Shouldn't freo come out and say he's not going anywhere then no matter what the offer
Avoiding to do so is buying into the shopping of a player
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I should probably be clearer, we've specifically said he's contracted, not going anywhere and a required player
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Well that ends that then
He kicked 20 goals from 13 games. If Marshall went into the no.1 ruck role full time Lobb would be about as good a replacement for him as anyone in the comp for that forward/ruck role.
Reckon Lobb should be the last of the overrated ruck/forwards to get an overinflated contract (not saying he is overrated, but his role is). Serviceable tall, deserves $350k-400k max
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Someone like SPS would be on more then that and what does he offer. There are not that many forward/rucks in the comp so Lobb easily gets $500k plus per season in the open market.
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And this is it.
He’s on $700k/yr over 2 years, a club just needs to come in and offer him $500k/yr over 4 years. It’s not huge, or ridiculous.
But he’s vital to our structure, and we don’t want to lose him without a replacement.
Guaranteed b22 when available.
Wouldnt be surprised to see Lobb being part of a late trade for Neale.
A 1st plus Lobb for Neale is close and Lobb is exactly what the Lions need with Hipwood out supporting Daniher. Can haggle about which 1st, plenty of picks to use.
Salary is a bit high but Lobb I recall said he would like an extension.
A 1st plus Lobb for Neale is close and Lobb is exactly what the Lions need with Hipwood out supporting Daniher. Can haggle about which 1st, plenty of picks to use.
Salary is a bit high but Lobb I recall said he would like an extension.
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Bag of chips and a can of lemonade near worthless on $700K salary.
If he was $350 probably pick in the late 2nd round early 3rd comparative to his salary.
If he was $350 probably pick in the late 2nd round early 3rd comparative to his salary.
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Coach did just that as did Lobb after his exit meeting.
Colin Young is trying to extend his 28 year old players contract, given his form and injuries in 2021
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In the 3 most seasons:
Mason Cox - 1.28 goal per game
In the 2 most recent seasons (2019 omitted due to Lobb playing ruck)
Rory Lobb - 1.00 goal per year
Both play 75% fwd, 25% ruck. Mason Cox is gettable at around 150k a year and 0 trade cost. Why would you get Rory Lobb on a ridiculous 700k a year, when you can probably the same player that at least matches if not is better in ability for 1/5 OF THE COSTS?
Dogs may be keen, but the reality is Rory Lobb is a C grader on an A grader salary. Just based on salary alone, Lobb deserves a late 2nd at the very best, if not a pick in the 3rd round.
Anyone thinking you can get a top 10 pick for Lobb get real
Mason Cox - 1.28 goal per game
In the 2 most recent seasons (2019 omitted due to Lobb playing ruck)
Rory Lobb - 1.00 goal per year
Both play 75% fwd, 25% ruck. Mason Cox is gettable at around 150k a year and 0 trade cost. Why would you get Rory Lobb on a ridiculous 700k a year, when you can probably the same player that at least matches if not is better in ability for 1/5 OF THE COSTS?
Dogs may be keen, but the reality is Rory Lobb is a C grader on an A grader salary. Just based on salary alone, Lobb deserves a late 2nd at the very best, if not a pick in the 3rd round.
Anyone thinking you can get a top 10 pick for Lobb get real
The floating of Lobb's name for a trade is baffling to me. He is a competent FWD/Ruck but overpaid which is fine, Fremantle made their bed with that but why would Fremantle allow him to leave with 2 years remaining when we have zero depth in the position he plays?
For him to be allowed to leave we would (I assume) have to receive significant overs to let him go. Not because he is good but because he is important structurally to the team. So if Fremantle won't let him go for overs which club is stupid enough to pay overs? I wouldn't be keen to bring him in at his current age and output for anything more than say a late 20's pick.
But if I am Fremantle I probably want a late 1st due to his value to our current side.
It makes so sense to me.
For him to be allowed to leave we would (I assume) have to receive significant overs to let him go. Not because he is good but because he is important structurally to the team. So if Fremantle won't let him go for overs which club is stupid enough to pay overs? I wouldn't be keen to bring him in at his current age and output for anything more than say a late 20's pick.
But if I am Fremantle I probably want a late 1st due to his value to our current side.
It makes so sense to me.
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That would be stupid by his manager as it means the 1.4 mill can be spread over 3-4 years
This ain't going anywhere unless freo are happy to accept a 2nd rounder
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Lobb has sown more than what the saints picked at pick 1 in the 2014 AFL draft!
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Question re Lobb reported $750k. Any idea whether that was base salary + incentives. He only played 13 games this year? May not have been the full $750k.
Really, you’re trolling a guy who’s had his life and AFL career ruined by concussions that made his life a living hell?Lobb has sown more than what the saints picked at pick 1 in the 2014 AFL draft!
I think he's Trolling Defacto.
Nearly every club has a ruck/forward, the problem is that not many of them are good. You need somebody to perform the role but to spend $500k+ on one is a waste of cap space
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