Preview Round 1 2022 - Adelaide vs Fremantle, March 20, 2022

[UcantCme]

Based on who is in the stable now

B Murray Butts McPherson
HB Jones Doedee Smith
C Shol Crouch Seedsman
HF Cook Fog Ned
F McAdam RT Murphy
R ROB Laird Schoenberg

Int Pedlar Sloane Milera Berry

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[Kane McGoodwin]

Most people are assuming Tex won't play on or not in our best 22?

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

Interesting nobody has Hinge in their 22, I think he's going to surprise some people similar to Keays with a big uneventful pre-season.

Shoulders really worry me. Seems to be the sort of injury that once it happens, it’s just a recurring thing.

 

[1990crow]

Personally think it's too hard to know. Do we keep pick 4?
Trade in Rankine, Stephens, Dawson, Maynard, Lukosius, Hopper? No idea. Only two I'd be mildly confident on are Stephens and Rankine.
So let's assume we get those two and draft someone not ready for round 1.

FB: Brown ~ Butts ~ Doedee
HB: Jones ~ Murray ~ Milera
C: Smith ~ Keays ~ Seedsman
HF: Cook ~ Thilthorpe ~ McHenry
FF: Rankine ~ Fogarty ~ Gollant
R: O'Brien ~ Laird ~ Sloane
B: Stephens ~ Pedlar ~ Sholl ~ McPherson

 

[Crow till I die]

Based on who is in the stable now

B Murray Butts McPherson
HB Jones Doedee Smith
C Shol Crouch Seedsman
HF Cook Fog Ned
F McAdam RT Murphy
R ROB Laird Schoenberg

Int Pedlar Sloane Milera Berry

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I think you will be closest as whoever we draft wont play round 1 unless they do something truly exceptional in preseason. I also suffer from the bigotry of low expectation when it comes to trading in top end talent and while i could see us maybe bringing in a low sight (meaning safe) less costly target in stephens, it will be SANFL for him.

 

[The Rocks]

FB: Kelly - Butts - Doedee
HB: Jones - Murray - Smith

C: Seedsman - Keays - Milera
R: O'Brien - Laird - McHenry

HF: Sloane - Fogerty - Schoenberg
FF: McAdam - Thilthorpe - Rowe

Cook, Himmelberg, Pedlar (Gun), Hately, Berry somewhere. McPherson, Gollant, Scholl (Can't fit them all in I know)

EMG: McAsey, Strachan, Murphy, Frampton

Where to fit in Brown, Tex, Crouch (If stays) without taking away from development? Himmelberg only in for Tex atm. Borlase, Gollant, Newchurch, to play when chances arise. Rowe gets benefit of the doubt. McPherson over brown only on the form of McPherson this month and the need to develop.

Pedlar, McHenry, Hately, Schoenberg to get big midfield minutes (I'd like Milera to play on-ball but many inside mids at that expense). Sloaney doesn't have to play midfield anymore to be effective.

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[The Rocks]

Most people are assuming Tex won't play on or not in our best 22?

Has a few games suspension so can't play round 1 which is the topic?

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[Kane McGoodwin]

Has a few games suspension so can't play round 1 which is the topic?

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Doh!

For some reason I was thinking best 22 next year.

 

[The Rocks]

Doh!

For some reason I was thinking best 22 next year.

I think we've all made mistakes like this, still funny though!

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[Jcpdragonx]

FB: Brown Butts Doedee
HB: Jones Murray Smith
C: Seedsman Shoenberg Sholl
R: RoB Laird Keays
HF: Cook Thilthorpe McHenry
FF: Fogarty Walker (susp) McAdam
I: Milera Berry McPherson Pick 4

Concerned about Fog, Walker replacement, Sholl, McPherson, Milera and every small forward on the list as to whether they will be long term best 22. All have shown they are capable but have been incontesistent.

Others:

Mid
Matt: Trade
Hately - Lacks composure and defensive game, players get away from him too easily. Going to be tough for him but think hes capable.
Pedlar - We picked an very injury prone player with 11 and look what happened. Need to see if he gets a clean run.
O'Connor - Seems a fair way off, has some scope but might be on the outer if we need list spots.

Def
Kelly - Not good enough
Frampton - Back up
Hamil - Needs to show more than flashes
Davis - Delist

Fwd
McAsey - See how he goes with a preseason.
Murphy - Doesn't really offer enough, needs to show improvement although he hasn't shown much of it. Plays with good intent though.
Rowe - Needs a bigger tank and some sort of defensive game.
Gollant - Can see him playing R1 with a good preseason as a 3rd tall but unsure his best position.
Newchurch - See how he goes in preseason, would solve a lot of problems if he comes good.
Berg - 1 more year to see if he can make it

Ruck
Strachun - Woudlnt surprise me if he plays R! or a club seeks him in offseason.

 

[CharlieCrow]

DON'T WANT IN THE TEAM LIST
Rowe
Murphy
Kelly

 

[Drewie11]

FB: Hinge - Butts - Doedee
HB: Jones - Mcasey - Smith

C: Seedsman - Keays - Scholl
R: O'Brien - Laird - Schoenberg

HF: McHenry - Fogerty - Pedlar
FF: Murray - Thilthorpe - Berry


Bench: , Sloane, Cook, Hately, Milera

Depth: Brown, Kelly, McAdam, Rowe, Murphy, Strachne, Stephen’s, Pick 4

This is the year to give McAsey a fair crack at it to see if he has got it, hopefully a good summer in the gym. I’d like to see the experiment of Murray as that 3rd tall, has an unbelievable leap and a great set of hands. Anyway you look at it if we can add Stephen’s and a good quality mid at 4 then the depth is starting to look great too.

 

[rabidcrow]

FB: Brown Butts Doedee
HB: Jones Murray Smith
C: Seedsman Shoenberg Sholl
R: RoB Laird Keays
HF: Cook Thilthorpe McHenry
FF: Fogarty Walker (susp) McAdam
I: Milera Berry McPherson Pick 4

Concerned about Fog, Walker replacement, Sholl, McPherson, Milera and every small forward on the list as to whether they will be long term best 22. All have shown they are capable but have been incontesistent.

Others:

Mid
Matt: Trade
Hately - Lacks composure and defensive game, players get away from him too easily. Going to be tough for him but think hes capable.
Pedlar - We picked an very injury prone player with 11 and look what happened. Need to see if he gets a clean run.
O'Connor - Seems a fair way off, has some scope but might be on the outer if we need list spots.

Def
Kelly - Not good enough
Frampton - Back up
Hamil - Needs to show more than flashes
Davis - Delist

Fwd
McAsey - See how he goes with a preseason.
Murphy - Doesn't really offer enough, needs to show improvement although he hasn't shown much of it. Plays with good intent though.
Rowe - Needs a bigger tank and some sort of defensive game.
Gollant - Can see him playing R1 with a good preseason as a 3rd tall but unsure his best position.
Newchurch - See how he goes in preseason, would solve a lot of problems if he comes good.
Berg - 1 more year to see if he can make it

Ruck
Strachun - Woudlnt surprise me if he plays R! or a club seeks him in offseason.

Comprehensive run down - where is Sloane?


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[UcantCme]

Most people are assuming Tex won't play on or not in our best 22?

I picked a round 1 side, obviously Tex won't be available

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[Cap]

Is Pedlar getting a shoulder reco? When was that announced?

 

[70lethal]

Doodee - Butts - Laird
Jones - Murray/McAsey/Frampton - Smith
Seedsman - Crouch - Milera
McHenry - TT - Cook
Sloane - Fog - McAdam

ROB/Strachan - Keays - Shoenberg

Int - Berry, Pedlar, Himmelberg, Defender

Question marks
Def-McPherson, Hamill, Brown, Parnell
Def-Frampton, McAsey, Worrell, Hinge, Borlase,
Mid-Hately, Sholl,
For-Gollant, McAdam, Newchurch, Murphy, Rowe
KPF/Ruck Himmelberg,
Safe - Strachan
Gonski - Kelly, Davis, O'Connnor

If two of McAsey, Murray, Worell step that would be huge especially if one could become a swingman

For/Mid with our 1st
Trade in Dawson or Stephens
Draft small forward inside pick 30.

Trade for Lukosius next year.

 

[DJ75]

Assuming no big trade in of players, and our normal selection philosophies, I'd assume round 1 will be (not my choice):

FB: Jones Butts Doedee
HB: Smith Murray Milera
C: Seedsman Crouch Hamill
HF: Sloane Walker Schoenberg
FF: Thilthorpe Fog McHenry

1R: ROB Laird Keays

INT: Berry Brown Sholl Cook

 

[hey shorty]

It's kinda pointless even attempting this until we see what happens during trade week and draft time.

There will be at least 2 changes we know, Lynch and DMac. You'd imagine Crouch and Walker will play. Hamill, Sholl, Milera, Berry, Pedlar and ROB probably do too.

 

[jackster83]

Assuming no big trade in of players, and our normal selection philosophies, I'd assume round 1 will be (not my choice):

FB: Jones Butts Doedee
HB: Smith Murray Milera
C: Seedsman Crouch Hamill
HF: Sloane Walker Schoenberg
FF: Thilthorpe Fog McHenry

1R: ROB Laird Keays

INT: Berry Brown Sholl Cook

Walker is still suspended.

 

[hey shorty]

Walker is still suspended.

Ahhhh yes he is.

Well he won't play R1 then !!!

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Is Pedlar getting a shoulder reco? When was that announced?

Yes

Was in the final injury report, along with Himmelberg needing a shoulder operation too

 

[Cap]

Yes

Was in the final injury report, along with Himmelberg needing a shoulder operation too

Well that is just shithouse

 

[Mikevk123]

B Brown Butts Doedee
HB Milera McASEY Smith
C Seedsman Keayes Sholl
HF McHenry Fogarty Sloane
F Rowe Thilthorpe McAdam
FOLL: O’Brien Laird Schoenberg
INTER: M.Crouch, Jones, Cook, Hatley

 

[Mego Red]

FF: Gollant - Thilthorpe - Keays
HF: McHenry - Fogerty - Sloane

C: Seedsman - Crouch - Sholl
R: O'Brien - Laird - Schoenberg

HB: Milera - McAsey - Smith
FB: Jones - Butts - Doedee

RES: Cook, Hately, Brown, Pedlar

That's where we stand today - trades and pick 4 might come in, as might Berry and Worrall.

 

[huludicidal]

Based on the squad as it stands right now, I would pick…

B: Brown - Butts - Doedee
HB: Milera - Murray - Jones
C: Seedsman - M Crouch - Cook
HF: Schoenberg - Thilthorpe - Smith
F: McHenry - Fogarty - Gollant
R: O’Brien - Laird - Keays
Int: Worrell, McAdam, Sloane, Berry

Emg (from):
* Strachan (never in same side as ROB but an excellent backup who could challenge him)
* Sholl (still needs to put on more muscle, stiff to miss the side but his second half of 2021 was poor. Cook offers significantly more upside and versatility)
* Himmelberg (could play alongside Thilthorpe and Fog, but I’d like to see the side with only two genuine KPFs first. Recovery from shoulder reco potentially takes him out of Rd 1 contention)
* Hamill (major durability concerns but the potential is there)
* Pedlar (Recovery from shoulder reco likely takes him out of Rd 1 contention - very much hoping for him to establish himself by midseason)
* Rowe (too slow, but a smart player)
* Hinge (fighting it out with Worrell and Kelly)
* McAsey (his selection at Pick 6 feels more disastrous with every sub-par SANFL performance but maybe it all comes together soon a la Chayce)
* Frampton (backup defender only)
* McPherson (never to be played in the same side as Brown)
* Newchurch (only remotely in the mix if he has a massive preseason but here on potential)

I would personally not consider selecting: * Kelly (traded, or depth only)
* Hately (depth only)
* Parnell (one more year of development required)
* Davis (delisted)
* O’Connor (depth only or delisted. Personally I would reclassify him to the rookie list by delisting Ben Davis

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Ben Davis

Age

27

Ht

189cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

6.0

1star

K

3.5

1star

HB

2.5

2star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.5

3star

MG

169.0

3star

D

5.0

1star

K

4.0

1star

HB

1.0

1star

M

2.0

2star

T

2.0

3star

MG

169.0

3star

D

6.0

2star

K

3.5

2star

HB

2.5

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.5

4star

MG

169.0

3star

from the Rookie List and having O’Connor and Butts swap lists)
* Borlase (no clear AFL attributes, delisted or depth only)
* Murphy (relegated to depth only due to possessing no upside. I’m very confident the likes of Cook and Gollant can provide similar forward pressure to Murphy while simultaneously providing a hell of a lot more in other facets)

Tex to potentially return to the side in Rd 4 if things go to plan there. Who he replaces would come down to injuries, form and how the structure is holding up.

Our top 2-3 draft picks may also push for selection depending on how AFL-ready they are.

J Dawson would obviously slot straight in to the starting 18 on the off-chance that we do acquire him, and would push one of Worrell, McAdam, Berry or Gollant out of the hypothetical side above (if there weren’t any injuries, which there will be).

Guys like Sholl and Hamill in particular are pretty stiff to miss this side, but the inevitable injury list that will exist prior to Rd 1 will likely see at least 1 of them sneak in anyway.

Frampton vs Murray actually shapes as a pretty fascinating position battle at half back - nobody saw that coming a few months ago!

I am not sure what to make of McAsey. Is the club now trying to convert him to a full time forward role because Frampton has failed as a forward, but Billy somehow instantly looks a better defensive prospect than McAsey? Is there still any hope for Fish as a defender? This is the 2nd highest draft pick in the history of the club and he needs to be given every opportunity to succeed. We appear to have managed to get Chayce (our 4th highest draft pick in history) back on track in a new role, so here’s hoping for something similar here.

For those playing at home, Laurence Angwin

Laurence Angwin

Age

42

Ht

200cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.8

2star

K

7.3

3star

HB

1.5

2star

M

3.3

3star

T

0.8

3star

G

1.5

5star

No current season stats available

D

8.8

3star

K

7.3

3star

HB

1.5

2star

M

3.3

4star

T

0.8

3star

G

1.5

5star

is our 3rd highest draft pick ever (pick 7). Yuck.

My forward line is quite small and agile, but still has good marking power IMO with both McAdam and Gollant in there alongside Thilthorpe and Fog. Cook (who can also take a grab) can also spend some time up forward, as he’ll switch with Smith at times in this setup.

On that, I would absolutely play Smith as a half-forward / wingman in 2022 and beyond. We have Milera returning to his natural half back role, Chayce is now an established half back who previously looked terrible everywhere else, Brown holds down a back pocket and is backed up by McPherson, while Worrell, Doedee and Hinge are all back half types. Free Brodie! He can be a goalkicker, unlike literally everyone else we have played on a forward flank for the last 4 years.