Preview Round 10 - Hawthorn Hawks vs Brisbane Lions, York Park Sunday 3:20pm

[Jim Stynes11]

Bit of a typo, 4 out of 5 games have been away games i meant. AAHAA

 

[Milux]

Flying down from Qld for this game, a win of any sort would be great. Weather looks fine, such a change from the drenching my farm has got up here. Would be good to see Robbo back, his fire and energy after a couple of weeks out would be good for any complacency. Good to see Cam continuing his development into a real weapon and Hippy's continued recovery from the knee. Let's just get the points, anyway how and come on home.

Farm you say? Hows the pest control going? ( subtlety not subtle).

 

[scott_the_man]

Danger game. Lost this one last year in a similar scenario when Hawks were paying $5 for the win.

 

[Gadzorks]

Danger game. Lost this one last year in a similar scenario when Hawks were paying $5 for the win.

To be fair, we are so invested in this season every game looms as a threat.

Damn it!! We NEED to win every game to prove we are worthy of the big cheese.

I can't say the actual words cause I don't want to jinx us.

I'm doing my daily chant (we are the lions, we are worthy) double today for having the gall to post this.

 

[Viceregal]

To be fair, we are so invested in this season every game looms as a threat.

Damn it!! We NEED to win every game to prove we are worthy of the big cheese.

I can't say the actual words cause I don't want to jinx us.

I'm doing my daily chant (we are the lions, we are worthy) double today for having the gall to post this.

Sadly winning every game doesn't guarantee success (see the Saints 'The Streak' for details or Port Adelaide during the 3-peat) - yes the 'players' need to believe they can do it and will do it and we have to win enough games to be right up there but the games that really count (and which we need to start winning) are the Finals.

But yes there is both the calm acceptance that we will win as we go into each match with the awareness that any game may be a loss on the day - but the good teams still have more wins to losses and mitigate temporary setbacks much better (see Q2 vs Q3 the Swans).

There was a line from an old book in E.E.Doc Smith's Lensman series iirc where it describes Kimball Kinnison as having 'a conscious maturity that no young man could know' ... teams with maturity can handle a game or two loss without the fragile falling apart* thing kicking in.



*Some fans cannot handle 5 mins with the opposition having momentum (see any random GameDay Thread except maybe vs North this year)

 

[Milux]

Sadly winning every game doesn't guarantee success (see the Saints 'The Streak' for details or Port Adelaide during the 3-peat) - yes the 'players' need to believe they can do it and will do it and we have to win enough games to be right up there but the games that really count (and which we need to start winning) are the Finals.

But yes there is both the calm acceptance that we will win as we go into each match with the awareness that any game may be a loss on the day - but the good teams still have more wins to losses and mitigate temporary setbacks much better (see Q2 vs Q3 the Swans).

There was a line from an old book in E.E.Doc Smith's Lensman series iirc where it describes Kimball Kinnison as having 'a conscious maturity that no young man could know' ... teams with maturity can handle a game or two loss without the fragile falling apart* thing kicking in.



*Some fans cannot handle 5 mins with the opposition having momentum (see any random GameDay Thread except maybe vs North this year)

Well written.

 

[knaf]

My like was for the “E.E.Doc Smith's Lensman series” reference. Remember in the early 70s waiting for the next instalment to come out.

 

[Dalions]

 

[M Malice]

Named bench > [2] Deven Robertson

2

Deven Robertson

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.0

1star

,[4] Callum Ah Chee

4

Callum Ah Chee

Age

27

Ht

183cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.9

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

0.8

3star

D

11.1

3star

K

7.7

3star

HB

3.4

2star

M

3.1

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

0.7

3star

D

9.4

3star

K

4.4

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.8

3star

,[5] Mitch Robinson

5

Mitch Robinson

Age

35

Ht

184cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.9

5star

K

11.2

4star

HB

8.7

5star

M

4.1

4star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

15.8

4star

K

11.3

4star

HB

4.5

3star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.9

3star

CL

1.8

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.6

5star

,[13] Thomas Berry

16

Thomas Berry

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.8

2star

K

3.2

1star

HB

4.6

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

2.2

4star

G

0.0

1star

D

7.8

2star

K

3.2

1star

HB

4.6

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

2.2

3star

G

0.0

1star

D

7.8

2star

K

3.2

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.2

4star

G

0.0

1star

,[16] Cam Rayner,[18] Keidean Coleman,[20] Jaxon Prior,[21] Tom Fullarton

Jack Payne goes down back to cover for Marcus Adams

24

Marcus Adams

Age

31

Ht

192cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.8

4star

K

8.1

3star

HB

5.7

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

240.5

4star

D

5.0

1star

K

2.0

1star

HB

3.0

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.0

1star

MG

57.0

1star

D

15.8

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

6.8

5star

M

6.8

5star

T

2.0

4star

MG

235.8

4star

(Covid), Tom Fullarton goes up front?

Out- Adams.

Ins- Fullarton, Robertson, Lester, Robinson.

Maybe Prior goes out for Dev/Mitch/Tom?

 

[scott_the_man]

I think it'll be
In: Lester, Robbo
Out: Adams, Prior

Gardiner to play Adams role, Lester to play 3rd tall. Payne to swing back when needed.

Or Payne plays Adams role and Lester goes forward.

 

[BangyBangy]

Named bench > [2] Deven Robertson,[4] Callum Ah Chee,[5] Mitch Robinson,[13] Thomas Berry,[16] Cam Rayner,[18] Keidean Coleman,[20] Jaxon Prior,[21] Tom Fullarton

Jack Payne goes down back to cover for Marcus Adams (Covid), Tom Fullarton goes up front?

Out- Adams.

Ins- Fullarton, Robertson, Lester, Robinson.

Maybe Prior goes out for Dev/Mitch/Tom?

Yeah, I'd be inclined to agree with that. Probably prefer Payne going back to take the role of Adams rather than Gardiner taking over his role & then Lester coming in to take Gardiners role.

Wouldn't mind seeing fullarton getting a run as a forward. Any one of Dev / Mitch / TBerry would be a good in this week, prior to get a spell.

 

[Dalions]

Yeah, I'd be inclined to agree with that. Probably prefer Payne going back to take the role of Adams rather than Gardiner taking over his role & then Lester coming in to take Gardiners role.

Wouldn't mind seeing fullarton getting a run as a forward. Any one of Dev / Mitch / TBerry would be a good in this week, prior to get a spell.

Lester is named in the run on squad so I think Payne will stay forward and Lester to play back.

 

[BangyBangy]

Lester is named in the run on squad so I think Payne will stay forward and Lester to play back.

Didn't see that. Yep, tend to agree then. Cheers.

 

[Dalions]

Didn't see that. Yep, tend to agree then. Cheers.

They are named the other way around though.
But they have named Payne down back in all three games he has played.

 

[BangyBangy]

They are named the other way around though.
But they have named Payne down back in all three games he has played.

My first impression is that maybe they have doubts over Fullarton's contested marking & bringing the ball to ground for our fleet of mid / small forwards. If Payne was to take Adams' role, then I don't really see a need to play Lester at all.

 

[Dalions]

My first impression is that maybe they have doubts over Fullarton's contested marking & bringing the ball to ground for our fleet of mid / small forwards. If Payne was to take Adams' role, then I don't really see a need to play Lester at all.

Completely agree, I think that is why Payne has been named over Fullarton during this stretch, with others out.
It allows our smalls to go to work.

 

[BangyBangy]

Completely agree, I think that is why Payne has been named over Fullarton during this stretch, with others out.
It allows our smalls to go to work.

Doesn't really bode well if the only time you can get a game if Hipwood, McStay & Daniher are all out.

 

[Nathan Barley]

I would've gone Payne down back to be the second tall and Fullarton forward rather than Gardiner playing taller but oh well. Good on froggy getting another game. Must be taking out his key defender rivals with covid. Look out Harris

 

[3KZ is Football]

Adams will be missed for his aerial strength, particularly his intercept marking, but very happy to have Lester in the side. Depth is an important feature of a great team and we have amazing depth. Tipping Lester has a great game.

 

[3KZ is Football]

PS.
Apropos some some comments I made about Lester’s capacity to lead in defence earlier in the week, I invite people to watch him closely, especially when a defensive teammate has possession and you will see what I mean.

Lions by lots

 

[Cubs2Lions]

 

[KissKiss]

Hope everything is ok for him, but I guess that should make it clear with Fullerton forward and Payne back in Adams role. Lines up with their strengths better

 

[Nathan Barley]

Ah, so likely Fullarton forward and Payne back. Better not be the reverse

Hopefully nothing serious for Lester

 

[Fizzer Kellity]

Sans Adams,Daniher and McStay makes for our weakest team this season…Lions by 16

 

[DERRINALPHIL]

I have seen enough of Fullarton up forward to be of the opinion he isn't going to make it as a forward. He might be a handy backman though. We haven't seen him down there in the seniors. Playing in defence can bring out some desperation at the contest which is what, IMO, he needs to show.

Payne has showed something down back in the few games he has played down there and I don't think we have enough evidence as yet to rule him out as a forward.

I can see valid reasons to try Fullarton down back and Payne up forward and what I would really like to see is those two swopping during the match. I crave a Lynchie or Bradshaw.