Round 11 Trades

[FBDonkey]

I made an executive decision last week and traded Chappy for the Roo.. Big decision but with Chappy's B/E for his next game, you will lose some serious cash..
Also Chappy isnt that consistent, he can score 150+ but he can also score more than a handful of 60-80 scores during a season.. I took the punt with him and I have decided the Roo is a safer option for big scores and consistency..

Wow, no wonder you only have 6 trades left. this was a complete waste of a trade. As mentioned in another thread Chappy is likely to play this week. When considering premium keepers it doesnt matter what their B/E is or how much money they are going to lose because you are keeping them so you never actually have to pay the cost.

 

[FBDonkey]

Otten will not increase much more higher in price and to be honest, he has only had 1 score off 100+ in 10 games and also I believe he is SEVERELY overpriced currently..

Ohh and Davenport will get heaps of game time for Port, they will play alot of kids towards the end of the year.. Don't trade him for Muston, he can seriously play, he might be the difference for you later in the year when you cash him in for a premium..

any evidence to support these statements?

while i agree that Otten is close to his highest pricing level, currently he has a B/E of 57 which is below his avg. Therefore he is certainly not overpriced at all. Im not quite sure why you have 'severely' in capitals because the statement is not true. He may only have 1 game over 100 but his consistency has been his greatest strength and this is why many people are considering keeping him over Rich. A player with an avg of 87 and 7/10 scores above 80 is not overpriced at 410k.

 

[vinum coupe]

You gotta have some serious testicular fortitude to go with Cousins..
I dont think you will be seeing massive scores from him this season, plus I just dont trust his body, particularly his hamstrings..
If I was in your position I would do the following;
IN: Muston Ablett
OUT: Otten Cousins..

Otten will not increase much more higher in price and to be honest, he has only had 1 score off 100+ in 10 games and also I believe he is SEVERELY overpriced currently..
I mentioned my thoughts on Cuz, risky player to have in your line up..

With GAJ and Muston, you have a guarantee 150 points a week (300 as capt) and Muston will get better with game time, plays alot like J Selwood, will score consistently 80+..
Hope this helps..
Ohh and Davenport will get heaps of game time for Port, they will play alot of kids towards the end of the year.. Don't trade him for Muston, he can seriously play, he might be the difference for you later in the year when you cash him in for a premium..

Thanks, makes sense.
I took cousins at the start of the year as a (sort of) show of support.
I know that's not the right way to play SC.

 

[OneEyedHawk]

Ok my first trade this week is set Tuck > Muston.

It's my second trade i'm not sure about.

My backline is - Goddard , Lockyer , Gilbert , Chornes , Adcock , Hurn & Broughton (emg. Cheney & Greenwood)

So after the Tuck trade will have 9 trades left & $261,600 in the bank.

Looking at Chornes > Newman/Thornton/Bock/Fisher.

Thoughts

Without knowing their respective scores/prices off the top of my head, my order of preference would be Fisher then Newman. Someone else mentioned Drummond, and maybe that is the way to go, but i still don't fully trust his durability. He scores huge, but the last thing you want with a premium is to have them sitting on the pine.

 

[WOTTAMACHINE]

Wow, no wonder you only have 6 trades left. this was a complete waste of a trade. As mentioned in another thread Chappy is likely to play this week. When considering premium keepers it doesnt matter what their B/E is or how much money they are going to lose because you are keeping them so you never actually have to pay the cost.

You could say it was, but to be honest FB I really wanted Riewoldt in my team ASAP.. Chappy is a gun but with his scores this season thus far (121, 74, 160, 80, 95, 163, 84, 69) it isnt very consistent and he doesnt play games consistently as well.. I took a gamble with him at start of year (knowing his passed with missing games with injuries).. Roo scores very well in supercoach, big decision I made, just hope it pays off in the long run.. If Chappy comes back and scores his breakeven score of 179 and consistently does it, well I did make a mistake didnt I? Time will tell..

 

[fryzie]

I need someone to affirm my belief that trading in Muston would be a bad idea.

I am down to 8 trades and am going to dump Cornes this week.. can't carry both he and Hodge on the pine and believe Hodge will be more beneficial to my backline come round 18-22. (Other than that my backs are complete, Hodge, Goddard, Lockyer, Adcock, Mackie, Chad, Grimes bench: Broughton and Suban)

I have a complete midfield consisting of Ablett, Goodes, NDS, Judd, Selwood and Kornes, however I held onto Anthony from the beginning of the year and jumped on Cockie so I have no playing emergencies.

Do I bother getting on Muston for his big scores/playing right now so I have cover in my mids? Or do I remind myself that trades are golden and Muston will probably do his knee getting out of the bath before the game this weekend.

 

[Bloods]

I need someone to affirm my belief that trading in Muston would be a bad idea.

I am down to 8 trades and am going to dump Cornes this week.. can't carry both he and Hodge on the pine and believe Hodge will be more beneficial to my backline come round 18-22. (Other than that my backs are complete, Hodge, Goddard, Lockyer, Adcock, Mackie, Chad, Grimes bench: Broughton and Suban)

I have a complete midfield consisting of Ablett, Goodes, NDS, Judd, Selwood and Kornes, however I held onto Anthony from the beginning of the year and jumped on Cockie so I have no playing emergencies.

Do I bother getting on Muston for his big scores/playing right now so I have cover in my mids? Or do I remind myself that trades are golden and Muston will probably do his knee getting out of the bath before the game this weekend.

I'm in a similar position. Strong midfield, settled team, waiting on Hodge to come back and low on trades, so I think getting Muston is overkill.

 

[WOTTAMACHINE]

any evidence to support these statements?

while i agree that Otten is close to his highest pricing level, currently he has a B/E of 57 which is below his avg. Therefore he is certainly not overpriced at all. Im not quite sure why you have 'severely' in capitals because the statement is not true. He may only have 1 game over 100 but his consistency has been his greatest strength and this is why many people are considering keeping him over Rich. A player with an avg of 87 and 7/10 scores above 80 is not overpriced at 410k.

It's just an opinion, no one picked up Otten as a keeper, he has got a little improvement left in him, if he starts scoring between 50-70 his price will drop and you will miss the boat with some premium players that you want in your side..
It is all about making the right decisions at the right time, this week would probably be a bad week to cash in on him, because of his B/E.. However if he scores 48 and Ablett scores 198, you will lose a few $k on Otten and lose out on Ablett by $20k - $30k..
It's a tough game FB and like I said, right decisions at the right time..
I had a bad experience last season with SC where I kept my trades and missed the boat with some players, went into finals with 6 trades and got knocked out the first week.. Had 4 trades left, were a waste..
If you manage your trades and have a bit of luck during year with injuries, it is an easy game to win.. I do have 6 trades left, but I have set my side up so that I dont have to trade anymore (barring injury).. If I can get away with 2-3 trades from now until rnd 19 I am laughing..

 

[Hondo]

I have a complete midfield consisting of Ablett, Goodes, NDS, Judd, Selwood and Kornes, however I held onto Anthony from the beginning of the year and jumped on Cockie so I have no playing emergencies.

Do I bother getting on Muston for his big scores/playing right now so I have cover in my mids? Or do I remind myself that trades are golden and Muston will probably do his knee getting out of the bath before the game this weekend.

If you had a time machine you would undo the Cockie trade because you would have been better off waiting for a decent rookie like Muston rather than some rookie-list-upgrade experiment. Bit harsh maybe, but I cringe whenever I see Cockie in people's teams.

But, now you've done Cockie deal, and have Anthony coming back soon, I think Muston is not essential for you.

I've been pondering Muston all week however my situation is that I have a maxed out cash cow that I needed to downgrade at some stage so Muston is as good a rookie downgrade target as I am likely to get.

 

[WOTTAMACHINE]

I need someone to affirm my belief that trading in Muston would be a bad idea.

I am down to 8 trades and am going to dump Cornes this week.. can't carry both he and Hodge on the pine and believe Hodge will be more beneficial to my backline come round 18-22. (Other than that my backs are complete, Hodge, Goddard, Lockyer, Adcock, Mackie, Chad, Grimes bench: Broughton and Suban)

I have a complete midfield consisting of Ablett, Goodes, NDS, Judd, Selwood and Kornes, however I held onto Anthony from the beginning of the year and jumped on Cockie so I have no playing emergencies.

Do I bother getting on Muston for his big scores/playing right now so I have cover in my mids? Or do I remind myself that trades are golden and Muston will probably do his knee getting out of the bath before the game this weekend.

What is your forward line?

 

[WOTTAMACHINE]

Ok you all had Anthony from the start, what if he plays 1 game and is no good? Get's dropped, just like a Barham, Cockie, Davenport etc...
Muston is a proven points scorer, missing out on him could cost you dearly if 1 of your premiums is a late withdrawal in lets say a finals match at seasons end..
Anthony could be the midfield version of Wade Thomson..

 

[WOTTAMACHINE]

If you had a time machine you would undo the Cockie trade because you would have been better off waiting for a decent rookie like Muston rather than some rookie-list-upgrade experiment. Bit harsh maybe, but I cringe whenever I see Cockie in people's teams.

But, now you've done Cockie deal, and have Anthony coming back soon, I think Muston is not essential for you.

I've been pondering Muston all week however my situation is that I have a maxed out cash cow that I needed to downgrade at some stage so Muston is as good a rookie downgrade target as I am likely to get.

I made the mistake of getting sucked in by Barham, i watched his Bris game and was impressed with the kid, now I regret it, however he could still play a game or 2 for the pies..

 

[fryzie]

If you had a time machine you would undo the Cockie trade because you would have been better off waiting for a decent rookie like Muston rather than some rookie-list-upgrade experiment. Bit harsh maybe, but I cringe whenever I see Cockie in people's teams.

Tell me about it, as a West Coast supporter I was fairly confident he would play out most of the season... I watched him in the WAFL grand final last year and he was amazing. Most WCE supporters were a little shocked when he was put back on the rookie list and I wouldn't be surprised if he is re-elevated after round 11. You're right about Anthony returning soon so I think I'll just overlook Muston. Cheers.

What is your forward line?

My weakness at this point, Deledio, Buddy, Higgins, Porplyzia, Fev, Walker and Sidebottom (Brown, Warren)

Scored 2401 this week so I'd say my current team structure is good enough to get me to the finals in my league. All 9 of my forwards are playing regularly so I won't be upgrading anybody until round 16 or 17 barring injuries or irresistable price drops from a premium (Walker may just become Pav next week if he has a bad game).

 

[Hondo]

Tell me about it, as a West Coast supporter I was fairly confident he would play out most of the season... I watched him in the WAFL grand final last year and he was amazing. Most WCE supporters were a little shocked when he was put back on the rookie list and I wouldn't be surprised if he is re-elevated after round 11. You're right about Anthony returning soon so I think I'll just overlook Muston. Cheers.

Don't get me wrong - you look to have a very strong side. Cockie was the only fault I could find.

 

[Hawkmad]

Ok my first trade this week is set Tuck > Muston.

It's my second trade i'm not sure about.

My backline is - Goddard , Lockyer , Gilbert , Chornes , Adcock , Hurn & Broughton (emg. Cheney & Greenwood)

So after the Tuck trade will have 9 trades left & $261,600 in the bank.

Looking at Chornes > Newman/Thornton/Bock/Fisher.

Thoughts

Without knowing their respective scores/prices off the top of my head, my order of preference would be Fisher then Newman. Someone else mentioned Drummond, and maybe that is the way to go, but i still don't fully trust his durability. He scores huge, but the last thing you want with a premium is to have them sitting on the pine.

Yep I will have to add Drummond high on that list as well sort of forgot about him while I was looking at options.
I know people still have concerns about him but with 7 scores over 100 , 2 others in the 90's & his only other score which is his lowest at 81. It's hard to go past him with that sort of form.

I think I've talked myself into it so at this stage it looks like -

Tuck > Muston
Chornes > Drummond

Which will leave me with 8 trades & $183,700 in the bank

 

[The Swert]

grab ablett and chase goddard after. you will have the best player in the league and a lock-in captain every week. so to not cop a zero in your backline, this week go ziebell > muston provided tuck does not play and upgrade tuck next week to ablett. maybe look at enright or shaw for somebody unique for cornes.

Thanks for the advice, it brought forth an option I did not see before. Now I've been doing some calculations based on the pros and cons of each of my options.

My choice now is to either:

A:
Ziebell > Muston
Tuck > Ablett
and then next week go Cornes > Enright

OR

B:
Ziebell > Muston
Cornes > Enright
and then next week go Tuck > Ablett

I've discovered, using averages as expected scores, that my choice depends on whether or not Rance and Tuck play. If only Rance plays I choose A, if both play I choose A, if neither play I choose B, if only Tuck plays I choose B (although it might be tight for cash).

What are your thoughts on the best value replacement for Cornes? Enright at $448k, Ryder at $435k, Adcock at $413k or Houlihan at $392k?

 

[joxstrap]

Goddard, Fisher, Newman, Gilbee, Chornes, Clarke, Grimes (Petrenko/Broughton)
Ablett, Judd, Selwood, Foley, Hasleby, Rich (Otten/Zaharakis)
Cox, McIntosh (White/Spenser)
Pavlich, Deledio, O'Keefe, Franklin, Higgins, Krakour, Walker (M.Brown/Sidebottom)

It's such a standard side. I'm placed around the top 1000 - which would you recommend?


Otten -> Muston, then one of:

M.Brown -> S.Johnson (the highest net point increase using their averages)
M.Brown -> J.Brown
Hasleby -> Dal Santo/Goodes
Krakour -> Riewoldt
Clarke -> Enright, or?

I'd like another couple of midfield premiums. Foley and Hasleby don't quite do it for me.

11 trades left, and only really need to upgrade M.Brown or Walker at the moment. Thoughts?

 

[AFaiL]

I got a few dilemmas myself. Team reads:

Goddard
Gilbee
Burgoyne
Houlihan
Grimes
Cornes
Broughton
(Cheney, Petrenko)

Ablett
Bartel
Sewell
Judd
Dal Santo
Montagna
(Beams, Robinson)

Cox
McIntosh
(Spencer, Browne)

Riewoldt
Pavlich
Deledio
Franklin
Fevola
Higgins
Sidebottom
(Macaffer, Thomopson)

Keepers are bolded. Damn cornes... Houlihan is a keeper now, no real choice. But he scores 90+ quite consistently so im happy with that. Broughton will be a gun with Hayden out

Not sure what to do, 9 trades and $600 in the bank. Not $600k, just $600 lol.

I think Robinson >>> Beames. Robbos b/e is 70, and he is a supercoach rollercoaster ride which i'd like to get off. Beames is worth less and with Muston coming in, i'd have an ample replacement so don't need to hold onto Robbo. Beames is worth 13K more though, so maybe just trade for the extra money (his b/e is 60) and know that I have a decent replacement in Muston - but i might need the midfield cash later on in the season when i ned to upgrade backs.

That will leave me with 8 trades and about 128k, or 8 trades and 141k if i do beams

Can't see another trade I need to do. While Cornes is broken, i can wear the 0 and wait or Sam Fisher. His b/e is 125 and will drop this week IMO, and if Cheney flukes a spot, i've go a full squad. TBH with my mids, im not too fussed with 1 zero.

other option is to burn Beams and Robbo and Muston and Anthony, and then im sufficiently cashed up for the rest of the season. All ill have left to do is sideways Cornes, and i'll have $270,200 to upgrade the remaining spots (Sidebottom, Broughton) With the option of downing Macaffer if need be. All this will leave me with 5 odd trades for LTI injuries to my keepers.

Thoughts?

 

[WOTTAMACHINE]

Thanks for the advice, it brought forth an option I did not see before. Now I've been doing some calculations based on the pros and cons of each of my options.

My choice now is to either:

A:
Ziebell > Muston
Tuck > Ablett
and then next week go Cornes > Enright

OR

B:
Ziebell > Muston
Cornes > Enright
and then next week go Tuck > Ablett

I've discovered, using averages as expected scores, that my choice depends on whether or not Rance and Tuck play. If only Rance plays I choose A, if both play I choose A, if neither play I choose B, if only Tuck plays I choose B (although it might be tight for cash).

What are your thoughts on the best value replacement for Cornes? Enright at $448k, Ryder at $435k, Adcock at $413k or Houlihan at $392k?

Ellis is a good option as well, he's currently around the $392k mark.. That is if he stays injury free..

 

[WOTTAMACHINE]

I got a few dilemmas myself. Team reads:

Goddard
Gilbee
Burgoyne
Houlihan
Grimes
Cornes
Broughton
(Cheney, Petrenko)

Ablett
Bartel
Sewell
Judd
Dal Santo
Montagna
(Beams, Robinson)

Cox
McIntosh
(Spencer, Browne)

Riewoldt
Pavlich
Deledio
Franklin
Fevola
Higgins
Sidebottom
(Macaffer, Thomopson)

Keepers are bolded. Damn cornes... Houlihan is a keeper now, no real choice. But he scores 90+ quite consistently so im happy with that. Broughton will be a gun with Hayden out

Not sure what to do, 9 trades and $600 in the bank. Not $600k, just $600 lol.

I think Robinson >>> Beames. Robbos b/e is 70, and he is a supercoach rollercoaster ride which i'd like to get off. Beames is worth less and with Muston coming in, i'd have an ample replacement so don't need to hold onto Robbo. Beames is worth 13K more though, so maybe just trade for the extra money (his b/e is 60) and know that I have a decent replacement in Muston - but i might need the midfield cash later on in the season when i ned to upgrade backs.

That will leave me with 8 trades and about 128k, or 8 trades and 141k if i do beams

Can't see another trade I need to do. While Cornes is broken, i can wear the 0 and wait or Sam Fisher. His b/e is 125 and will drop this week IMO, and if Cheney flukes a spot, i've go a full squad. TBH with my mids, im not too fussed with 1 zero.

other option is to burn Beams and Robbo and Muston and Anthony, and then im sufficiently cashed up for the rest of the season. All ill have left to do is sideways Cornes, and i'll have $270,200 to upgrade the remaining spots (Sidebottom, Broughton) With the option of downing Macaffer if need be. All this will leave me with 5 odd trades for LTI injuries to my keepers.

Thoughts?

Is your team name fishandchips?
That is a very strong squad, cant believe you have put that together using 11 trades..
What is the team value there?

 

[AFaiL]

Is your team name fishandchips?
That is a very strong squad, cant believe you have put that together using 11 trades..
What is the team value there?

Haha, i wish mate! Team value is $11,710,600 ...

I had a few bad moves / badly timed moves that hurt.

I'd be ranked higher that my current 3500 odd ranking if it werent for that, but, you cant see the future.

To think, i started with kerr and wells. Its be a long slog to get where i am

 

[twobob30]

I can make a straight swap from Rich to Ablett, however this will leave my midfield as
Ablett
Bartel
Corey
Selwood
Judd
Bateman
(Hartlett, Muston)

Is having 4 cats in the midfield too much?
Would I be better off upping Corey/Bartel to Ablett and Rich to NDS, Swan or Gibbs?

 

[trix17]

i wouldnt want 4 cats in my midfield, id say corey to ablett and rich to a one of the above is the best plan IF you have trades up your sleeve, and depends on the rest of your team and how many more upgrades you need.

if i trade cornes to ellis and robinson to muston this week.

i will have enough money to trade krakouer for riewoldt IF they both get there averages, with 1k to spare, is it cutting it way too fine? im pretty sure riewoldt will score more than 114 against the roos, if he scores 130, il need krak to score 100, should i go ahead hith it and hope? or what should i do?

 

[ed don]

Everything has changed today.

Out: Riewoldt
In: Watts

 

[homerg29]

Ellis is a good option as well, he's currently around the $392k mark.. That is if he stays injury free..

I wanted to get Ablett this week but with Cornes going down I need to make a change in defence to avoid any 0's. Trades this week will now be:

Tuck > Muston
Cornes > Enright

then next week

Beams > Ablett - event though his value may rise the money made this week will cover the cost