There's enough threads about us tanking and how shit we are. This thread is for discussion of the game.
Collingwood 1.2 3.8 6.13 8.14 (62)
Hawthorn 6.3 8.8 12.11 17.14 (116)
GOALS
Collingwood: H. Shaw 2, Pendlebury 2, Medhurst, Didak, Anthony, Davis
Hawthorn: Franklin 8, Roughead 4, Dew, Bateman, Gilham, Williams, Sewell
BEST
Collingwood: Pendlebury, O’Brien, Maxwell, Anthony, Didak, Swan
Hawthorn: Franklin, Mitchell, Hodge, Bateman, Ellis, Croad, Brown
My thoughts:
1. Umpiring - I'll get this out of the way first, it was absolutely pathetic. I wasn't even angry at it, more just dumbfounded, I'm sure that many Hawthorn supporters would also feel that it was not up to standard. Whenever one team got a run on a couple of stupid decisions would go against them. The difference was when the Hawks got the good end of the stick they took advantage of it, we didn't.
2. Intensity/Tackling - Simple enough, when the intensity was there we got on top and vice-versa. We were too bloody soft today and didn't look interested. Our tackling has got to improve if we want to have a decent crack in September. Like with intensity, when the tackles were sticking we got on top.
3. 2 up, 0 down/Communication - This was a constantly occuring basic mistake and shat me up the wall the entire game. One of the first things your taught in football is that one person goes up to take the mark, the other stays down to get the crumbs. Too many times we had two players flying for a mark and Hawthorn made away with the easy ball. Furthermore, communication seemed to be lacking between players. I put this down to either a lack in confidence or in team harmony.
4. Forward Structure - What structure? Forget the midfield this is where we are losing the game. Many of us like to blame our mids that can't kick but let's try some empathy. What have they got to kick too? Our forwards don't lead anywhere near hard enough and we are just not presenting targets. Hard leads break the cluster, a steaming forward is going to outmark a stagnant player 9/10 times or smash him trying. Cloke and Anthony have good dukes but why the hell don't they lead? Thomas gets his share of criticism on this board but he seemed to be the only player trying to make an option at some times tonight. Our forward structure is based around precision and dainty kicks into our forward line but we don't have the personell to do it. Change the bloody structure ffs. Or Cloke can pull the finger out and make some purposeful leads (may be a tad harsh but if he wants to be the no 1 forward at Collingwood he needs to present).
5. Turning point - This is going to sound really weird but bare with me. Maxwell got on top of Buddy during the 3rd and the entire Hawks team were becoming too Buddy conscious. Clarkson took him off and the Hawks got on top.
Fire away.
Collingwood 1.2 3.8 6.13 8.14 (62)
Hawthorn 6.3 8.8 12.11 17.14 (116)
GOALS
Collingwood: H. Shaw 2, Pendlebury 2, Medhurst, Didak, Anthony, Davis
Hawthorn: Franklin 8, Roughead 4, Dew, Bateman, Gilham, Williams, Sewell
BEST
Collingwood: Pendlebury, O’Brien, Maxwell, Anthony, Didak, Swan
Hawthorn: Franklin, Mitchell, Hodge, Bateman, Ellis, Croad, Brown
My thoughts:
1. Umpiring - I'll get this out of the way first, it was absolutely pathetic. I wasn't even angry at it, more just dumbfounded, I'm sure that many Hawthorn supporters would also feel that it was not up to standard. Whenever one team got a run on a couple of stupid decisions would go against them. The difference was when the Hawks got the good end of the stick they took advantage of it, we didn't.
2. Intensity/Tackling - Simple enough, when the intensity was there we got on top and vice-versa. We were too bloody soft today and didn't look interested. Our tackling has got to improve if we want to have a decent crack in September. Like with intensity, when the tackles were sticking we got on top.
3. 2 up, 0 down/Communication - This was a constantly occuring basic mistake and shat me up the wall the entire game. One of the first things your taught in football is that one person goes up to take the mark, the other stays down to get the crumbs. Too many times we had two players flying for a mark and Hawthorn made away with the easy ball. Furthermore, communication seemed to be lacking between players. I put this down to either a lack in confidence or in team harmony.
4. Forward Structure - What structure? Forget the midfield this is where we are losing the game. Many of us like to blame our mids that can't kick but let's try some empathy. What have they got to kick too? Our forwards don't lead anywhere near hard enough and we are just not presenting targets. Hard leads break the cluster, a steaming forward is going to outmark a stagnant player 9/10 times or smash him trying. Cloke and Anthony have good dukes but why the hell don't they lead? Thomas gets his share of criticism on this board but he seemed to be the only player trying to make an option at some times tonight. Our forward structure is based around precision and dainty kicks into our forward line but we don't have the personell to do it. Change the bloody structure ffs. Or Cloke can pull the finger out and make some purposeful leads (may be a tad harsh but if he wants to be the no 1 forward at Collingwood he needs to present).
5. Turning point - This is going to sound really weird but bare with me. Maxwell got on top of Buddy during the 3rd and the entire Hawks team were becoming too Buddy conscious. Clarkson took him off and the Hawks got on top.
Fire away.
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