Game Day Round 19 vs. Hawthorn, MCG, 4:35pm Saturday 20/07

[sideswipe]

I am truly concerned that we are rushing McStay back in. After a knee reconstruction (ACL), I think that it is prudent to ve very conservative with him as we cannot afford him breaking down. Personally, I would have given him 2 more games in the VFL before playing him in the AFL. Goodnight & good luck.

Not sure the ACL risks are markedly different in the VFL compared to the AFL?


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[jimmy35]

Not sure the ACL risks are markedly different in the VFL compared to the AFL?


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Or even training.

 

[domus]

Bringing in McStay reeks of desperation. I can’t see it ending well, no conditioning whatsoever. Is Howe even fit?

Hawks will come to play against us, it’s their grand final…will be a tough game.

That's ridiculous. The work they put in on the track these days is equivalent to match day output. That's why some players go straight back into the seniors after lengthy layoffs. There is no way they would play him if they didn't think he was physically capable of playing his role.

 

[Jafo]

Given the miserable weather conditions predicted for tomorrow (windy, raining, cold and possible small hail), McStay a possible late out or still play him?

 

[Lockyer24]

Given the miserable weather conditions predicted for tomorrow (windy, raining, cold and possible small hail), McStay a possible late out or still play him?

I think we should look after him. We can still play for our lives without him. There is every chance a Reef could play a better game than he would tomorrow.

It’s not like our issues are no McStay either. It’s getting the ball inside 50 to begin with, and not having teams play keepings off.

 

[BuildEmUp]

I know a lot about Stevic

Stevic is actually the best Umpire out there.

 

[partypie]

I can only sum up this week's game preview in 10 words - final nail in the coffin, or a spark of hope.

Let's hope we can find something and it's the latter, I remember last year around this time we were stumbling a bit and looking pretty ordinary, but we came good when it mattered so it's not like we don't have that in us to turn things around.

 

[Captivating]

Nick Daicos to FF.

Clear the 50 and watch him kick a bag of 6 on that Hawks scragger.

So we'll clear the 50, but Hawks will put a new defenders in there and pick off each and every F50 kick. Given Nick has never taken a contested mark at AFL level, I don't think he's suddenly going to be taken contested marks 1 v 3

 

[unplugged]

Nick Daicos to FF.

Clear the 50 and watch him kick a bag of 6 on that Hawks scragger.

There's no way they keep the match up the same if Nick Daicos goes forward. Would suspect that Hardwick or similar would switch across very quickly.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Calsher Dear is a very good prospect, but he's yet to have a 10 possession game. We don't need to go in with back up options for him.

Famous last words

 

[domus]

I think we should look after him. We can still play for our lives without him. There is every chance a Reef could play a better game than he would tomorrow.

It’s not like our issues are no McStay either. It’s getting the ball inside 50 to begin with, and not having teams play keepings off.

Wet weather won't bother McStay. He is a mobile athlete and good at ground level too. All he has to do is make a contest.

 

[sr36]

Famous last words

I can't see them becoming famous.

I'm a fan of Frampton out, as I see Howe replacing him in defence as a big upgrade and also think Moore is much better playing on the last line rather than higher up like he plays when Frampton is in. He doesn't get caught in no man's land as often as he has been.

With this defence, I think we'll both defend and transition better.

 

[cfc19902010]

Stevix is actually the best Umpire out there.

We will agree to disagree

 

[BuildEmUp]

We will agree to disagree

Let me guess, you would rather have Rosebury?

 

[cfc19902010]

Let me guess, you would rather have Rosebury?

No

Rosebury and Nicholls are worse agreed

 

[cfc19902010]

Leigh fisher

Leigh Fisher

Age

40

Ht

188cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

7.5

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.4

4star

K

8.2

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.4

4star

and Stevic not far off tho

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

I am truly concerned that we are rushing McStay back in. After a knee reconstruction (ACL), I think that it is prudent to ve very conservative with him as we cannot afford him breaking down. Personally, I would have given him 2 more games in the VFL before playing him in the AFL. Goodnight & good luck.

Why is his knee any safer in a VFL game on a dodgy suburban oval than in an AFL game on the G?

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Bringing in McStay reeks of desperation. I can’t see it ending well, no conditioning whatsoever. Is Howe even fit?

Hawks will come to play against us, it’s their grand final…will be a tough game.

Ashcroft & Melksham returned after their ACL's straight back into the seniors. No VFL at all.

Why wouldn't Howe be fit?

 

[stormskye]

Famous last words

It’s more a realistic, hyperbole free and objective take, than famous last words COD.

 

[ksardog]

Don't listen to the media

Hawks last month -

Won RICHMOND
BYE
Won WEST COAST
Lost GEELONG (51 points)
Won Fremantle in Tassie (Freo coming off huge Sydney win)

Nothing about this scares me. Us playing below our best is the only way we lose. Ferral Hawks supporters are delusional.

We just win




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hawthorn against Collingwood is a different animal, history shows that
any win is a good win against them

 

[sam_e]

Why is his knee any safer in a VFL game on a dodgy suburban oval than in an AFL game on the G?

level of intensity & pressure /physicality applied afl v vfl ..


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[ElliottsMaggies]

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Yet he did his ACL at training at Vic Park.

 

[sam_e]

Ashcroft & Melksham returned after their ACL's straight back into the seniors. No VFL at all.

Why wouldn't Howe be fit?

both of those guys were 9+ months , if not 12

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

both of those guys were 9+ months , if not 12

So? They still came straight back in. Been out of the game even longer. What about their conditioning/match fitness?

 

[sam_e]

Yet he did his ACL at training at Vic Park.

a vessel failed at 60 PSI. i reconstructed it and am ok to now pressure test it, as a 1st pass, at 120 PSI ..

yep