Preview Round 2 - Carlton v Richmond - Thu 27th March @ MCG 7.45PM

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History

In honour of our 150th season I thought Id do a brief historical synopsis as part of the match preview.

On June 13th, in round 8 of the 1908 season at Princes Park, Carlton played their first VFL game against the newly admitted Richmond, with the Blues running out winners 17.13.115 to 2.15.27. The return game in round 17 at Punt Road was a lot closer, with Carlton successful by just 7 points (6.12.48 to 4.17.41.)

Since 1908, the two clubs share a relatively ambivalent history interrupted by occasional bouts of rivalry. This first really took off in the 1970s, during a number of hard fought grand finals which saw the highly fancied Tigers lose in 1972 despite both sides kicking record scores (Carltons score is still the highest ever in a Grand Final), before the Tigers would even the score in 1973 after disgracefully playing the man rather than the ball resulting in injuries to the legendary John Nicholls, while Southby was king hit and unable to return in the second half due to concussion.



The Blues took a strong step ahead in 1982, thanks in part to the naked endeavors of one Helen D'amico a t a critical time, which some in the Richmond camp believe helped turn the momentum in the Blues way leading to another flag victory over the Tigers, and the last time these two sides would face off in a final until 2001.



In 2001, the Blues would face the Tigers in a semi final which saw the Tigers end the Blues season with an 11 point Victory in front of more than 83,000 at the MCG.

In 2008, the AFL saw fit to begin a new "tradition" by scheduling the Blues to play the season opener against the Tigers at the MCG. After the Tigers won Round 1, 2008, they would fail to win another game against the Blues until Round 1, 2013, although they lost the return bout the same year in Round 17.



At the close of 2013, the Blues met the heavily favoured Tigers in an elimination final at a packed MCG, and despite being 32 points down at one stage, the Blues were able to get ahead in the second half and finish with a twenty point victory over Richmond.





Match Overview (may need editing pending results tomorrow)

The Mighty Blues are expected to be on the hunt for their first win of the season after falling in a tough match against the Power at Etihad on Sunday, while the Tigers are fresh from yet another Queensland defeat at the hands of the Gold Coast. Last time these two sides met a heavily favoured Richmond side fell before a relentless Blues outfit which has only lost to the Tigers once in it their last dozen outings.

The Tigers are expected to be keen to avenge their loss in the finals, as well as make up for lost time this season after the unexpected loss to Gold Coast in round 1. The Blues, will be trying to get their first win in Mick Malthouses second season as coach.

For the Blues, new but experienced blood in Dale Thomas and Andrejs Everitt has entered the side, ex Captain Chris Judd is expected to be missing from this match, while Andrew Carazzo is a chance to recover in time, with Sam Docherty expected to begin his return a week later with the VFL side. For the Tigers, Ivan Maric will not be playing, giving former Blue Shaun Hampson a chance to prove himself against the Blues ruckman who were continually preferred in the first ruck role ahead of him at Carlton for so many years.
Possible Carlton Line Up

FB: Walker, Watson, Touhy
HB: Yarran, Jamison, Everitt
C: Thomas, Simpson, Curnow
HF: Garlett, Henderson, Robinson
FF: Kreuzer, Waite, Menzel
R: Warnock, Murphy, Gibbs

I: Mclean, Lucas, McInnes, Ellard.


Key match ups

Forward

Up forward, Waite has had a full preseason for the first time in living memory, and while his returns have been sparse in the preseason, Richmond will not have forgotten his 4 goals against them in the Elimination Final. The probable move of Watson into full time defense should allow Henderson to also move forward, and add Kreuzer into the mix, and the Blues will be playing their tallest regular forward line since the early part of the century. The addition of swing men Walker and Everitt, plus regular speedster Garlett and improving small forward Menzel could make this a nightmare for a Richmond defence.

Midfield

Dale Thomas presents an added bow to a quiver that will be missing Chris Judd and Andrew Carazzo. Curnow was recently named one of the leagues best taggers and he will likely find himself on either Cotchin or Deledio, the two men most likely to cause problems for the Blues mids.

Defence
Tyrone Vickery has caused considerable problems for the Blues defenders in the past, while Jack Riewoldt has tended to be well held. In the past the Blues have lacked answers to Vickery, and the win or loss could depend on shutting the big man down. Henderson may start forward, but whether he finishes the game there could depend on this outcome.

Rucks

With Maric out, and Vickery being turned into a permanent forward, it falls to former Blue Shaun Hampson to prove his worth to Tigers supports and those who doubted him in Navy Blue, when he takes on the men consistently preferred ahead of him, in what should be a fascinating battle.

Prediction

History is on the Blues side here, the Blues have had some sound additions to the lineup that should make up for the loss of Judd. Predict a relatively close game, with the Blues to run out victors by 21 points.

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Will be won in the ruck
 
Wow that hurts first up. Very numb at the moment, but glad football is back.

Positives ahead of round 2 is that we have time to rest for our niggles.

On top of that, we know that our stars can improve greatly, as they looked underdone.

  1. Gibbs - recovering from hand. Still played well tonight but he will take it to another level.
  2. Henderson - clearly underdone. Was our best player last year and it will take him a few weeks to regain that form.
  3. Thomas - understandably will need time to regain his touch, confidence (especially goalkicking) and form.
  4. Judd - will come back to help out.
  5. Walker - had an injury in pre-season and hopefully will regain last years form.
Other than that my wish is for a structural change. Bring in Casboult, Buckley and Judd if fit. if not, then Cripps.

Yarran Casboult Garlett
Menzel Waite Ellard

Kreuzer Murphy Gibbs
Curnow Thomas Simpson

Walker Henderson Buckley
Tuohy Jamison Watson

Int: Mclean, Bell, Everitt, Judd/Cripps

My wishes:
  1. Bring in Buckley to release Simpson or Walker into the midfield.
  2. Drop Warnock and trial Kreuzer and Casboult together for 3 weeks.
  3. Move Yarran Forward.
  4. START Menzel as our medium forward. Not as the bloody sub.
  5. Backline looks so much better with Henderson back. Watson as 3rd defender taking pressure off while letting him learn at AFL level. Also can still use his superboot. Henderson is an elite CHB. He is an above-average CHF.
I think other than that its just about can we run out games?
 
Thread open. Too soon?

For those not into the rant thread or the chicken little thread ... please lift us with your sweetness and light.

I'm here! I have full faith that we'll bounce back and beat the Tigers. I'm sure they'll cop an absolute beating from Mick this week, and hopefully they can pull themselves together.

We can't lose to Richmond two years in a row, just can't happen. We'll win.
 

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Pretty much.

Couldn't give two shits about Richmond but with our inability to ever improve, it always ends up being an important game. Wish it wasn't this way.

It's not actually what I said at all, so please don't put words in my mouth (hands?). And don't "wow" me like what I said was something ridiculously off-base just because you're mad that we lost tonight.

Moving on...

I don't know why Menzel was sub tonight, and I didn't like it. Hoping he gets a full game next week--really needed his footy smarts and impact. As much as I love Robbo, surely he can't get another game based on tonight's performance. I think there might be a few changes for next round, but that's not necessarily a bad thing...
 
It's not actually what I said at all, so please don't put words in my mouth (hands?). And don't "wow" me like what I said was something ridiculously off-base just because you're mad that we lost tonight.

Moving on...

I don't know why Menzel was sub tonight, and I didn't like it. Hoping he gets a full game next week--really needed his footy smarts and impact. As much as I love Robbo, surely he can't get another game based on tonight's performance. I think there might be a few changes for next round, but that's not necessarily a bad thing...
I'm mad that this team is still full of the same crap that has plagued our team since 2009. For all Mick's talk about changing the list and turning it around since he came in, the only thing he has done is turned us into a somewhat tough team who cannot use the ball to save themselves. All the talk about the Carlton used to be the opposite to that.
 
I hope for a good game, good crowd, and good atmosphere. And in all honesty have no idea who will win.
 
Outs: Watson, McInnes, McLean & Kreuzer
Ins: Casboult, White, Cripps & Buckley

Hendo to CHB, Cas into the forward line and second ruck.
Kreuzer needs to get some games under his belt and regain his confidence.
Need more run especially on the MCG - we were out on our legs in that last quarter.
 
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