Autopsy Round 20, 2023: Hawthorn v St.Kilda

[sunny3193]

Jones on crutches

That’s not good.

 

[StCicatriz]

Watched the replay of the Jones injury. The lead up ain't great. Jones is just floundering around. Just in his own world.

Then approaches the contest is a very blaisey fashion.

Completely avoidable

 

[stavro#4]

He needs more exposure than that given his performance yesterday.
If the Club wants to get the best out of him for the long term, I reckon we need to give him every opportunity to get his confidence and touch back.
Let him play for Sandringham until we see that.
I didn’t see it yesterday.

He was in the other week according to RTB.

So they obviously have some faith

 

[Saintpav]

Every goal by Luke Bruest goal was like a stab in the heart.

Biggest front runner that bloke.

A big FU to Hawthorn for for taking our zone and not handing it back when they were required to

 

[CaptainRisky]

First quarter take no notice of it as Hawks were pathetic , second and third quarters were junk , the only real form you can take out of it is how we were challenged in the last quarter and found a length or two , we will want to be a lot better for the remaining games as they are all playing for a finals spot unlike the last two teams we have played

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Not sure where all this belief is Sicily played terrible, had 26 possessions and 410 metres gained 16 kicks, 10 handballs and 7 marks, was part of the group of players picking our system apart and literally walking through our wall defence

It's more we stopped his intercepting work

 

[bird_man]

Watched the replay of the Jones injury. The lead up ain't great. Jones is just floundering around. Just in his own world.

Then approaches the contest is a very blaisey fashion.

Completely avoidable

Strange call

 

[Ads734]

One of these days Sharman will pull out mark of the year. It’s gonna click for him.

 

[Plugger35]

I reckon they were flattered with the umpiring.

Yeah the umpires did their best to keep the Hawks in it, they gave a lot of soft free kicks their way while ignoring blatant free kicks for us.

I would have been filthy with the umpiring if we had lost that game but thankfully we were good enough to overcome it.

I can see us getting rorted again next week against Carlton, you just know the umpires will be on the Carlton bandwagon to get them into finals.

Hopefully we are good enough to overcome it again, I reckon we play at our best when the umpires are against us, it fires us up.

 

[sunny3193]

No he won't. I'll put my left nut on it.

I am sure that you have a lovely left nut.
Perhaps even as lovely as your right.
But your post reminds me of the Peter Cook and Dudley Moore sketch about the one legged would be actor who rehearses for the role of Tarzan.
“You are deficient in the leg department Mr Smith.
To the tune of one.
Your right leg is lovely.
I have nothing against your right leg.
Trouble is, neither do you”.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Not sure where all this belief is Sicily played terrible, had 26 possessions and 410 metres gained 16 kicks, 10 handballs and 7 marks, was part of the group of players picking our system apart and literally walking through our wall defence

Just give it up man

 

[#gosaintas]

Strange call

maybe but I was happy to see him go. He was crap last week and was looking flaky before he was subbed off. Bloke is finished.

 

[StCicatriz]

Strange call

Rewatch it. It's ****in bizarre.

He waltzes down from the back 50 to the front. Caught between play. Doing these weird half jumps turning around. He doesn't know how to impact the play and his positioning actually results in the ball being moved fwd because he's stuck between unable to impact anything.

Then he casually approaches the contest where he's injured with no intensity what so ever.

If he went in with some intent or just didn't go in at all he doesn't get injured.

 

[Cairnsman]

It's more we stopped his intercepting work

I think we were better with our F50 mechanism in patches, especially the 1st quarter, the ball coming in quick to isolate Sharman and Scilly where he out marked him in that 1v1 will be highlighted in the player reviews this week. That helped a lot but only in patches for some weird reason, we look much better when we flick it around and go forward quickly at all cost. Just can't work out why we are such slow learners.

 

[Ads734]

Every goal by Luke Bruest goal was like a stab in the heart.

Biggest front runner that bloke.

A big FU to Hawthorn for for taking our zone and not handing it back when they were required to

Nah bruest is a jet.

 

[Cairnsman]

Just give it up man

come on Doc, keep them original and funny.

 

[Mowman]

here he is angry big gutz, you had too many tins today ole fella

He not angry
He just called you for what you are
A troll

 

[Cairnsman]

He not angry
He just called you for what you are
A troll

Big Joff has been angry his whole life, always looking for war, I find him amusing though, a great Saints man, an angry one but a good one.

 

[EddieMurphy]

Nah bruest is a jet.

Regardless he should not be kicking 6 against us.

 

[StFly]

He needs more exposure than that given his performance yesterday.
If the Club wants to get the best out of him for the long term, I reckon we need to give him every opportunity to get his confidence and touch back.
Let him play for Sandringham until we see that.
I didn’t see it yesterday.

He's an upgrade on Cordy as a forward option, bigger goal threat, also allows the Owens and Pou types to midfield up and push forward instead of forward and push back. It's kind of obvious that we needed that extra tall and more mature body to hold contact as Hammer is just too raw and the others are too small generally, Sharman not withstanding since his is invisibility for portions of a match.

 

[XhazzafootyX]

Best we’ve looked since probably the port game imo. I know we didn’t win that but we still played good footy against a good opponent

 

[The Cobra]

Few random thoughts:

Watched training Friday - emphasis on ball movement - that’s what we saw Q1&4 - a pleasure to watch - best for what 8 weeks?

NAS - will be a bit bigger and stronger next year - could be anything - A grader

Windy - excellent first half - a pleasure to see someone who tries to create and can use the ball - more upside as he learns the position.

Sincs & Crouch - thank you - turn up every week and give us A grade performances.

Butler - super dangerous today

Owens - now we know why he left training Friday - calf strapped - but just gave a 100% contest when shifted into the midfield.

We play Carlton next week who are flying - probably without Jones and Sharman (hammy) & maybe Hammer (fine you would think). Based on yesterday Membrey and Hayes are not ready but might have to play as will King who wasn’t even doing any contact on Friday - to everyone if next week doesn’t go well take a deep breath and have a look at who we have got on the field - we have been killed by injury this year and still fifth!

Finally RTB and assistants - nice job today!

 

[bird_man]

Rewatch it. It's *in bizarre.

He waltzes down from the back 50 to the front. Caught between play. Doing these weird half jumps turning around. He doesn't know how to impact the play and his positioning actually results in the ball being moved fwd because he's stuck between unable to impact anything.

Then he casually approaches the contest where he's injured with no intensity what so ever.

If he went in with some intent or just didn't go in at all he doesn't get injured.

The guy go tackles and rolled into his knee. A bit of bad luck.

 

[bird_man]

He's an upgrade on Cordy as a forward option, bigger goal threat, also allows the Owens and Pou types to midfield up and push forward instead of forward and push back. It's kind of obvious that we needed that extra tall and more mature body to hold contact as Hammer is just too raw and the others are too small generally, Sharman not withstanding since his is invisibility for portions of a match.

King will hopefully take Cordy's spot. Hayes ideally needs another week or two.

On another note, Caminiti is probably only behind Butler in terms of pressure forwards.

That's without looking at the stats, but I reckon his tackle inside 50's and pressure acts would be pretty good.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Ok, we played two poor quarter's,
How good were the other two.