Preview Round 23, 2017: Sydney Swans vs the Carlton percentage boosters

[Tuco]

If we are fair dinkum then we should beat a bottom 3 team easily and by a huge margin.

True.

I just like to thrash a team by sticking to your own plan rather than waltzing in thinking it's all just going to happen.

Lions beat the bombers in Melbourne. Anything can happen in this League.

 

[Syd]

So IF we win by a big enough margin, we can leapfrog Poort.

And IF CarLOLton get pumped by enough they can drop below GCS and improve 1 draft position

Likewise a bigger win to Poort means a higher finish\bigger loss by GCS means means a higher draft pick.

Should make for a couple of interesting games

 

[SwansProudly]

Gotta love the Swans conditioning team and medical staff

Player|Injury|Estimated Return
\Darcy Cameron|Shoulder|Season
\Robbie Fox|Ankle|1 week
\Sam Naismith|Hip|Test

 

[grimlock]

Carlton's losing margins this year

-43, -22, -26, -90, -19, -35, -17, -26, -12, -8, -20, -30, -65, -8, -17

Average 29.2 points

Gold Coast's losing margins this year
-2, -102, -67, -13, -72, -35, -10, -31, -67, -15, -54, -33, -23, -58, -33

Average 41.0 points

 

[The King!]

Carlton's losing margins this year

-43, -22, -26, -90, -19, -35, -17, -26, -12, -8, -20, -30, -65, -8, -17

Average 29.2 points

Gold Coast's losing margins this year
-2, -102, -67, -13, -72, -35, -10, -31, -67, -15, -54, -33, -23, -58, -33

Average 41.0 points

What's port and Sydney's winning margins

 

[dopesayo]

Please no injuries.

 

[grimlock]

What's port and Sydney's winning margins

Sydney
54, 42, 50, 46, 9, 1, 35, 67, 13, 42, 46, 104, 3
Avg 39.4

Port
28, 89, 90, 83, 72, 51, 40, 31, 32, 70, 2, 27, 17
Avg 64.0

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

**groan**.... Port are flat track bullies, like Shane Watson, Warner and Hayden.

 

[Number37]

True.

I just like to thrash a team by sticking to your own plan rather than waltzing in thinking it's all just going to happen.

Lions beat the bombers in Melbourne. Anything can happen in this League.

I wasn't suggesting we waltz in.
Win each quarter by 2 goals = a 48 point win.
Turn up like we did against Crows/Cats in 1Q and kick 7-10 goals + plus win the other 3 quarters by 2 goals each = 11 or 12 goal win.

I'm not suggesting it would be as easy as that, but it is realistic given our form.

 

[Deccas]

**groan**.... Port are flat track bullies, like Shane Watson, Warner and Hayden.

Hayden performed really well overseas on a few different occasions. Calling him a flat track bully isn't right, he was just a bully.

 

[kelpie_X]

Hit late took his eye off the ball curled up and hit the player side on in the back. Has fine written all over it. As he sits on two fines already it will cost a week IMO.

However, hope you are right.

This whole 2 fine scenario....
Wasn't Toby Greene on 2 fines before his boot to the face incident?

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Hayden performed really well overseas on a few different occasions. Calling him a flat track bully isn't right, he was just a bully.

hehehe....off topic I know but MTB failed when it counted in the Ashes in Pomgolia...his first ton against the Saffies remains the worst debut ton I have seen (dropped 5 times on the way).

 

[Banyo Bloods]

This whole 2 fine scenario....
Wasn't Toby Greene on 2 fines before his boot to the face incident?

Not sure maybe he wasn't on fines and straight suspended for his acts

 

[bradmanstandguy]

We will win but I have a bad feeling we will only win by 20 odd points. Carlton's gameplan will keep the game close for a long time unfortunately.

Every team who is not in contention, on their last home and away game will always throw cauction to the wind,to show that they have a future next year.
You are probably right, bad feelling here too. but tipping 60 points.

 

[kickthething]

Gotta love the Swans conditioning team and medical staff

Player|Injury|Estimated Return
\Darcy Cameron|Shoulder|Season
\Robbie Fox|Ankle|1 week
\Sam Naismith|Hip|Test

Now hear is a comment I thought I would never hear in my lifetime.. I miss those Matt Cameron videos.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Time for payback, for the Round 6 debacle.

Boys to come out breathing fire and atone for not backing up Mills in that match.

I don't wish to be the fly in the ointment, and let me stress I'm exultant with how the boys are playing for each other now, but the question does have to be asked (preferably some weeks after we raise the cup!), why DIDN'T the boys back up Mills in that match? Watching that unravel at the time it was clear as mud that our esprit de corps was completely shot.

I'm more than a little troubled that the proud Bloods even allowed things to deteriorate to that degree.

I'm happy to see it appears to have been eradicated, but again I scratch my head and ask myself, quite apart from the Bloods culture (which should have been, by the stage of playing senior footy, like a second skin to these guys), are highly-paid professional sportspeople really that dumb? Just viewed on purely mercenary grounds, you're paid pooloads of money to function as part of a team. And being part of a team means supporting your teammates at all times. All discussion of culture and heritage aside, it's not rocket science.

I fervently hope we've seen the last of that spinelessness. Rant over.

 

[Mick Oxlong]

**groan**.... Port are flat track bullies, like Shane Watson, Warner and Hayden.

Who the **** did Watson bully?

 

[Banyo Bloods]

I don't wish to be the fly in the ointment, and let me stress I'm exultant with how the boys are playing for each other now, but the question does have to be asked (preferably some weeks after we raise the cup!), why DIDN'T the boys back up Mills in that match? Watching that unravel at the time it was clear as mud that our esprit de corps was completely shot.

I'm more than a little troubled that the proud Bloods even allowed things to deteriorate to that degree.

I'm happy to see it appears to have been eradicated, but again I scratch my head and ask myself, quite apart from the Bloods culture (which should have been, by the stage of playing senior footy, like a second skin to these guys), are highly-paid professional sportspeople really that dumb? Just viewed on purely mercenary grounds, you're paid pooloads of money to function as part of a team. And being part of a team means supporting your teammates at all times. All discussion of culture and heritage aside, it's not rocket science.

I fervently hope we've seen the last of that spinelessness. Rant over.

Agree but... this did work as the catalyst to possibly the best regular season Swans fans have had the pleasure of experiencing. 15 games of finals intensity (Barring 2) and knowing a loss could end the season. Not great that we got to that point but incredible that we got to witness history and gain a fair bit of respect. Would love for them to target Mills this game.

 

[SilentHunter_]

4 quarter of ruthless swans thanks.

 

[basilcampbell]

Who the **** did Watson bully?

A few examples but one I can think of at the omens- If I recall correctly 170 odd in 5th ashes test 2015 when the series was over


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[LukeParkerno1]

Who the **** did Watson bully?

Bangladesh in a ODI, 185n.o

 

[Deccas]

hehehe....off topic I know but MTB failed when it counted in the Ashes in Pomgolia...his first ton against the Saffies remains the worst debut ton I have seen (dropped 5 times on the way).

We should move it to the cricket board probably .... but Hayden's best series was the 2001 Series away in India, although he never did that well in england. His best years were 2000 to 2004 so he was on the decline by the great 05 Ashes, but he still managed a hundred in that series. He was certainly a bully in australian conditions but he was really good in Asia as well. His career away average was 41 with 8 hundreds, which despite being below his career mark of 50 is still pretty bloody good for an opener in that era. He scored plenty of runs in tough conditions and characterising him as a flat track bully is a bit of bullshit imo. His reputation for that has more to do with him being a really imposing bully of a character when he was on top than really an analysis of his capability to score runs in tough conditions. He's no Davey Warner who averages only 34 away thats for sure.

Anyway, I hope we bully Carlton like Haydos at his best.

 

[Banyo Bloods]

4 quarter of ruthless swans thanks.

Quoted purely to get back on topic

 

[GotTheGoodes]

Swannies by 37.

Go you mighty bloods!!!

Enjoy all.

 

[caesar88]

I don't wish to be the fly in the ointment, and let me stress I'm exultant with how the boys are playing for each other now, but the question does have to be asked (preferably some weeks after we raise the cup!), why DIDN'T the boys back up Mills in that match? Watching that unravel at the time it was clear as mud that our esprit de corps was completely shot.

I'm more than a little troubled that the proud Bloods even allowed things to deteriorate to that degree.

I'm happy to see it appears to have been eradicated, but again I scratch my head and ask myself, quite apart from the Bloods culture (which should have been, by the stage of playing senior footy, like a second skin to these guys), are highly-paid professional sportspeople really that dumb? Just viewed on purely mercenary grounds, you're paid pooloads of money to function as part of a team. And being part of a team means supporting your teammates at all times. All discussion of culture and heritage aside, it's not rocket science.

I fervently hope we've seen the last of that spinelessness. Rant over.

My guess is the boys were just tired of being tough, hard and courageous as they have been consistently for five years. Five years of hard-nosed footy and they never wavered. I think it was inevitable they were going to have a collective crash, kind of like when you overheat a computer and it just can't function. The boys really needed to see what it was like to play away from that standard we're so used to, it really made it clear how easy it is to lose games if you drop off from that standard.