Review Round 7 = Essendon 85-85 Collingwood

[manicpie]

Whenever I start missing Adams, I remember his shanks & likelihood to be injured.

It helps.

It actually does help but sometimes you take the shanks for the greater good.

 

[manicpie]

GWS & Carlton were both 4-8 last season and made prelims. plenty of time left yet.

You had to go and say something sensible didn't you

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

It actually does help but sometimes you take the shanks for the greater good.

We've got a few new additions to the shankers club.

Not looking at you Jordy..

 

[BuildEmUp]

Maybe if we were better in centre and stoppage clearances, his stats wouldn't matter?

However I still can't find any stats that his rebound clangers are as high as you seem to think.

Do you have any stats?

nah, I just watch the game believe what my eyes see

 

[ThePhantom777]

Stringer bursting out of the middle multiple times made me feel sick. Had 4 shots on goal too.

 

[Maggie5]

nah, I just watch the game believe what my eyes see

I am the same but I always check stats as sometimes in the heat of the game, may miss something or overstate.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

Thanks for the effort you put in posting this. Much appreciated.

Are there any answers to the questions? Or is it a Collingwood - Essendon version of 'Blowing in the Wind'?

 

[loki04]

overall a better than Ginni replacement, workrate defensively kills Ginni defensive output , still worth the trade

Disagree that it was worth the likely cost. Harrison looks to me could grow into it even with Ginni gone.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

GWS & Carlton were both 4-8 last season and made prelims. plenty of time left yet.

Yep. Beating Carlton will help. After that four winnable games. Even if we lose tk Carlton but beat eagles crows dockers and dogs we can be 7.5-4.5. Almost as good as 8-4.

 

[TheGreatGrundy]

It actually does help but sometimes you take the shanks for the greater good.

I remember the days when the big shanks were maybe $1 for 2, and you'd buy them for the kelpie to create a decent slab of down time, clattering its teeth over and around the bone for the last 15 mins of the performance. The smell of burning leaves from the neighbour's incinerator and the sound of tennis balls thwacked into the rubbish bin wicket in the middle of the street. Those were days to be remembered.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I remember the days when the big shanks were maybe $1 for 2, and you'd buy them for the kelpie to create a decent slab of down time, clattering its teeth over and around the bone for the last 15 mins of the performance. The smell of burning leaves from the neighbour's incinerator and the sound of tennis balls thwacked into the rubbish bin wicket in the middle of the street. Those were days to be remembered.

And the shout of “ car” when you and wickets had to scamper off the road to let the traffic through

 

[Gilbert_Grape]

Our clearance/stoppage game is a real weakness in the team. Essendon won centre clearances 19-8, so it's a real deficiency we've had for a long time. Most of our scores are generated off turnovers, especially in the front half this year which is in contrast to last year where a lot of our scores were coming from the back half and we were able to smoothly transition through the corridor. As long as the stoppage game remains a weakness, we'll unfortunately have tight tussles like we did today.

Agree, Centre Bounce 8-19 was a big problem yday. Defence and forwards held up pretty well given that.

1. CB not a major problem all season though. Won the last 3 weeks (+19-12 v Port, even +19-7 v Syd). Biggest loss was 10-16 v StK) and before yday Coll were near best performed in centre bounce to date.

2. ABC article about Essendon a few days ago said one of the key changes in 2024 was keeping Stringer forward and not attending centre bounce. They'd been playing Setterfield, Durham, Caldwell, Perkins there more. They ditched that, Stringer attended 75% and killed it with 6 centre clearances. [cf Ess lost 6-19 to Port in centre bounces when they were smacked there, with Stringer not attending centre bounces].

3. Ruck hitout to advantage: Ess 9 v Coll 3. (Cameron only 2 HTA in 56 ruck contests -75%). DC has been very good this year but this didn't help. Felt like a lot of centre frees also.

4. Would explain the logic behind the Mitchell sub.

Thought HH did well as sub & Checkers was great.

 

[No SPIN]

VFl has no ruck we are playing guy (Begg) almost same size as Cripps as primary ruck, and have maybe 2 reasonable mids in McCrae and Sullivan, rest are very ordinary, look at how many mid prospects we have delisted in past 3 years , we havent hit gold with any of our 2nd or 3rd rounders that i can recall - better to trade for some and quickly.

Bytel has also been good.

 

[No SPIN]

Agree. Bombers have some very good players, are well coached & played extremely well yesterday.

Shifting Martin in the last quarter was a great coaching move.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Shifting Martin in the last quarter was a great coaching move.

Stringer in the midfield was pretty handy too. 6 centre clearances.

 

[Ctracks]

oops I was thinking of his September injury .. well good thing is he is ahead of schedule according to Waite

Waite? Ex blues and kangaroos player.
It’s Jarrod Wade - Collingwood high performance manager.

 

[BigVic]

2020

leap year
reigning premier had a slow start to the season
Drew with a Melbourne-based club in the first six weeks

2024

leap year
reigning premier had a slow start to the season
Drew with a Melbourne-based club in the first six weeks

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

2020

leap year
reigning premier had a slow start to the season
Drew with a Melbourne-based club in the first six weeks

2024

leap year
reigning premier had a slow start to the season
Drew with a Melbourne-based club in the first six weeks

I like that omen much better than the 1995 drawn Anzac Day match & 1995 Carlton premiership.

 

[sr36]

We were outplayed basically. You won't win many games when stats like this

It was all stoppage - we had them covered everywhere else. But they gave us a bath around the footy.

My hope is that it was the 5 day break - it was like that block towards the end of last year when our training loads were up, Mitchell looked cooked and a couple of others well on their way.

 

[manicpie]

I remember the days when the big shanks were maybe $1 for 2, and you'd buy them for the kelpie to create a decent slab of down time, clattering its teeth over and around the bone for the last 15 mins of the performance. The smell of burning leaves from the neighbour's incinerator and the sound of tennis balls thwacked into the rubbish bin wicket in the middle of the street. Those were days to be remembered.

I remember it well. After a hard day of street cricket you would sleep like a baby until 5am, that's when you could start hearing the magical sound of clip clops from the milkman and his horse.

 

[Jen2310]

It was all stoppage - we had them covered everywhere else. But they gave us a bath around the footy.

We scored off turnover and pressure, but we could barely get on our hands on the footy
Giving them a 6 goal headstart doesn't help either.
But clearances We've got to do better.

 

[Go Woods]

Stringer bursting out of the middle multiple times made me feel sick. Had 4 shots on goal too.

Yes, this was disappointing to watch, Jordy had to be better when matched up on him to allow Naicos a way of passage to win more centre clearances.

 

[sr36]

We scored off turnover and pressure, but we could barely get on our hands on the footy
Giving them a 6 goal headstart doesn't help either.
But clearances We've got to do better.

Hopefully it was just that the oldies couldn't handle a 5 day break.

Mitchell was like he was during that heavy training load late last year. Just struggling to move his legs.

 

[sr36]

Stringer bursting out of the middle multiple times made me feel sick. Had 4 shots on goal too.

He's pretty awesome.

 

[BigVic]

2020 had Trump v Biden election and Chiefs def 49ers in the Super Bowl