Round one selection dilemmas

[Cousin of Daicos]

B: Williams - Brown - Marsh
HB: Langdon - Reid - Ramsay
C: Varcoe - Adams - Sidebottom
HF: Swan - Cloke - De Goey
F: Gault - Moore - Fasolo
R: Grundy - Pendlebury - Treloar

INT: Greenwood, Crisp, Aish, Blair

EMER: Witts, Frost, Macaffer

This will be the round 1 side!

Frost is playing on Franklin. Marsh or Ramsay will miss out from your list.

 

[Rusty22]

Frost is playing on Franklin. Marsh or Ramsay will miss out from your list.

marsh for frost

 

[Rusty22]

reid to take every kick out please

 

[Lethal06]

FB Williams | Brown | Maynard
HB Langdon | Frost | Reid
C Varcoe | Pendles | Sidebottom
HF Swan | Cloke | DeGoey
FF Fasolo | Moore | Gault
R Witts | Adams | Treloar
INT Greenwood | Crisp | Blair | Ramsay

E Aish | Grundy | Macaffer

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

marsh for frost

Probably. Outside Franklin and Tippett, they dont have a tall forward line so Frost, Marsh, Reid and Brown is probably overkill.

 

[Rusty22]

Probably. Outside Franklin and Tippett, they dont have a tall forward line so Frost, Marsh, Reid and Brown is probably overkill.

sinclair and towers are tall though arnt they?

 

[Mr Bombastic]

B: Williams - Brown - Marsh
HB: Langdon - Reid - Ramsay
C: Varcoe - Adams - Sidebottom
HF: Swan - Cloke - De Goey
F: Gault - Moore - Fasolo
R: Grundy - Pendlebury - Treloar

INT: Greenwood, Crisp, Aish, Blair

EMER: Witts, Frost, Macaffer

This will be the round 1 side!

Agree on everything except I think we'll see Sinclair instead of Aish, and probably Witts over Grundy. Marsh definitely over Frost, especially after the job he did on Stringer.

 

[Rusty22]

Agree on everything except I think we'll see Sinclair instead of Aish, and probably Witts over Grundy. Marsh definitely over Frost, especially after the job he did on Stringer.

only reason i took aish over sinkers is the disposal efficiency

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

So basically Elliott, Scharenberg and Smith are our only injured players?

Holy shit, when was the last time we started the season with only 3 injuries, only 1 of which is officially long term?

Serious question. 2010? 2011?

 

[Rusty22]

So basically Elliott, Scharenberg and Smith are our only injured players?

Holy shit, when was the last time we started the season with only 3 injuries, only 1 of which is officially long term?

Serious question. 2010? 2011?

2006

 

[Mr Bombastic]

only reason i took aish over sinkers is the disposal efficiency

Based on NAB form I think they'll go for Sinclair.

 

[Maggie5]

B: Williams - Brown - Frost
HB: Langdon - Reid - Ramsay
C: Varcoe - Adams - Sidebottom
HF: Swan - Cloke - De Goey
F: Gault - Moore - Fasolo
R: Witts- Pendlebury - Treloar

INT: Greenwood, Crisp, Aish, Blair

EMER: Grundy, Marsh, Macaffer

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

2006

Seriously? A decade?

Wowzers (unless you're being a smart arse, in which case, eat me).

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Sinclair instead of Aish, and probably Witts over Grundy. Marsh definitely over Frost, especially after the job he did on Stringer.

Sinclair over Aish is on the money, I think. For team balance, an extra defender is likely, and Sinkers hasn't really put much of a foot wrong all pre-season.

Witts over Grundy I'm not sure about - I wouldn't read anything into Grundy not playing on the weekend, and I think considering Witts was up against Tom Campbell and Tom Boyd on the weekend (and then Redpath when Campbell went down), he didn't exactly dominate in the hitouts the way that you might expect against guys who aren't even first rucks. I'd be giving the job to Grundy, who generally plays really well when given the lion's share of the rucking duties.

Marsh over Frost... Marsh did a good job defensively on Stringer, but his ball use was atrocious, and Sydney has bigger options to play on, namely Buddy. Unless the coaching staff really feel that Marsh can handle that job, I think that they're going to have to play Frost.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

B: Williams - Brown - Marsh
HB: Langdon - Reid - Ramsay
C: Varcoe - Adams - Sidebottom
HF: Swan - Cloke - De Goey
F: Gault - Moore - Fasolo
R: Grundy - Pendlebury - Treloar

INT: Greenwood, Crisp, Aish, Blair

EMER: Witts, Frost, Macaffer

This will be the round 1 side!

Thats very close!

I suspect Witts may get the nod (just) ahead of Grundy. Also not convinced about Marsh, maybe Frost ahead of him.....Brown/Frost to take key position and Reid on flank, third man in on Buddy and then running off him. Sinclair probably deserves a run too , maybe ahead of Aish or Ramsay or maybe even Langdon (less likely)

 

[jackcass]

How is Puopolo superior in every regard? He is smaller than Blair, gets less possessions, scores minimally more goals despite playing the same role in a much more high scoring team and struggles to impact in finals. I think Blair is the superior version myself but has a tougher job because he plays in a weaker team.

Exactly! And he's 3-4 years younger.

 

[jackcass]

Absolutely. Blairs forward half defensive pressure is better

And he offers a genuine midfield option.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

How is Puopolo superior in every regard?

People think every player in a great team is a gun, but on the other hand, Shannon Byrnes, Mark Blake and Trent West all won flags with Geelong, and they were genuine potatoes.

 

[jackcass]

Sinclair over Aish is on the money, I think. For team balance, an extra defender is likely, and Sinkers hasn't really put much of a foot wrong all pre-season.

Witts over Grundy I'm not sure about - I wouldn't read anything into Grundy not playing on the weekend, and I think considering Witts was up against Tom Campbell and Tom Boyd on the weekend (and then Redpath when Campbell went down), he didn't exactly dominate in the hitouts the way that you might expect against guys who aren't even first rucks. I'd be giving the job to Grundy, who generally plays really well when given the lion's share of the rucking duties.

Marsh over Frost... Marsh did a good job defensively on Stringer, but his ball use was atrocious, and Sydney has bigger options to play on, namely Buddy. Unless the coaching staff really feel that Marsh can handle that job, I think that they're going to have to play Frost.

Hmmmm, so you're happy to ignore that Witts was also the dominant big man v Smith/Stanley NAB1, and performed better than Grundy v Goldstein NAB2. It's the weight of form over the NAB series that has earned Witts his spot atop the ruck pecking order, not just his game against the Doggies. Personally I'd play both and let Gault string together some solid form at VFL level but if it comes down to a choice of 1 + Gault, I don't think it's as clear cut as some suggest in a Witts v Grundy choice, nothing in it in fact.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

People think every player in a great team is a gun, but on the other hand, Shannon Byrnes, Mark Blake and Trent West all won flags with Geelong, and they were genuine potatoes.

Cameron Mooney was a kipfler. A more trendy, acceptable, tasty potato, the kind you'd see on Masterchef, but still a potato all the same. The guys you mention were more your $1.50 a kilo type.

 

[Lethal06]

And he offers a genuine midfield option.

Having started this debate I will conceded that Blair (like Gault) has looked surprisingly good over the pre-season and deserves a Rd1 spot but I think a few of you might be getting a bit carried away in terms of his importance and impact.

Blairy's a bit like Shane O'Bree circa 2010 - a likable, loyal and dependable foot-soldier but offering very little "hurt factor" and must necessarily be pushed aside by more potent teammates if we are to again go deep in the finals. So too Sinclair, Toovey, Macaffer and Goldsack. We've seen what they all offer. None of them have significant improvement left in them.

 

[mike123]

I'd rather Puopolo over Blair because he's quicker.

Stats height etc. I really couldn't care about because they both have specific roles and play them both adequately Puopolo's burst speed puts him ahead for mine.

 

[jackcass]

Having started this debate I will conceded that Blair (like Gault) has looked surprisingly good over the pre-season and deserves a Rd1 spot but I think a few of you might be getting a bit carried away in terms of his importance and impact.

Blairy's a bit like Shane O'Bree circa 2010 - a likable, loyal and dependable foot-soldier but offering very little "hurt factor" and must necessarily be pushed aside by more potent teammates if we are to again go deep in the finals. So too Sinclair, Toovey, Macaffer and Goldsack. We've seen what they all offer. None of them have significant improvement left in them.

Alternatively, a few cling so desperately to what they think a player can't do or do well enough (for them) that they completely disregard what they can do and what they do well.

 

[JB1975]

Witts over Grundy I'm not sure about - I wouldn't read anything into Grundy not playing on the weekend, and I think considering Witts was up against Tom Campbell and Tom Boyd on the weekend (and then Redpath when Campbell went down), he didn't exactly dominate in the hitouts the way that you might expect against guys who aren't even first rucks. I'd be giving the job to Grundy, who generally plays really well when given the lion's share of the rucking duties.

I would have thought that on exposed form (over the NAB games) that Witts has generally out-performed Grundy. Witts has certainly done a pretty good job in hit-outs, he did some decent things around the ground in NAB 1, and some very good work around the ground in NAB 3. Grundy's tap work has been underwhelming. For these reasons I would have thought that Witts deserves the first call-up. If we don't recognise the decent form of Witts over the more modest form of Grundy, then why play Witts at all?

 

[Fruit]

Has a Collingwood Premiership player ever copped it as bad as Blair? I'm always going to remember him as a Premiership Hero who can stand proudly alongside Peter Daicos, Tony Shaw, Gavin Brown, Leigh Brown, Luke Ball, Mick Gayfer etc who have bought me so much happiness.