Admin Notice S36 Rules and serial_thrilla Thread

[serial_thrilla]

Pie 4 Life please - the Old Boys are patiently waiting!

 

[Pie 4 Life]

Nah but seriously, we get Greenery to do one job.

Pie 4 Life please - the Old Boys are patiently waiting!

 

[Greenery]

Nah but seriously, we get Greenery to do one job.

 

[Pie 4 Life]

Funnily enough I was literally picking between them

 

[serial_thrilla]

FUMBLER UPDATE!!
Falconista and the Gumbies have folded, and fumbler is now only listed in two teamsheets!

 

[Gralin]

 

[Greenery]

Funnily enough I was literally picking between them

 

[Tonga Bob]

FUMBLER UPDATE!!
Falconista and the Gumbies have folded, and fumbler is now only listed in two teamsheets!

And fumbalert was right there waiting for you to use it.

 

[serial_thrilla]

And fumbalert was right there waiting for you to use it.

FUMBLER UPDATE!!
Tigerturbulance and the Old Boys have folded, and fumbler is now only listed on one teamsheet!

With an entire 150 minutes left too...

 

[Tonga Bob]

FUMBLER UPDATE!!
Tigerturbulance and the Old Boys have folded, and fumbler is now only listed on one teamsheet!

With an entire 150 minutes left too...

 

[nahnah]

sante explain the last 10 pages in under 3 sentences

 

[Elton Johns Wig]

Seasons are years.

I'm 82 years old.

 

[Braklet]

I've seen your work, he's in no danger.

Uh oh, you're still mad from last season's Furies game where me and James Colorado broke into your cellar for some late night drinks (and profit).

My judgement was clearly impaired, particularly after I discovered they pawned off all their urine samples as test tube shots.

 

[Braklet]

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WTAF is THAT? I need to get one to hang from my rear view mirror!

 

[TedDougChris]

Seasons are years.

I'm 82 years old.

Roys sign The Filth Wizard !!

 

[Cadsky]

Kennedy Parker can you please clarify the penalty for naming an ineligible player on your teamsheet

 

[TedDougChris]

Kennedy Parker can you please clarify the penalty for naming an ineligible player on your teamsheet

Hang on, he's just working it out....

 

[Cadsky]

Hang on, he's just working it out....

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In sure he'll get back to me in the next 24 hours..

 

[TedDougChris]

In sure he'll get back to me in the next 24 hours..

 

[TedDougChris]

Also, big congratulations everyone....

Last season we hit 34/35 pages on this thread, we're already at 27 due to massive incompetence across all aspects of the league...

At this rate, we should easily break the 300 page mark across a 16/17 week season plus finals !!

 

[DragoDelph]

Yet Tarkyn_24 is only on one, and he's the lawful owner of fumbler

Is this a pyramid scheme now?

 

[sante]

sante explain the last 10 pages in under 3 sentences

Middle aged men are sooking over an inactive player in a fantasy football league on the anonymous text based football forum.

 

[Cadsky]

4D) Free Agency

Off-Season

Free agency occurs between seasons from the earlier of; the elimination of your team from finals or the conclusion of the grand final to squad submission date. Free agents may only be signed with permission. Player movement between clubs is unrestricted with permission of the player. The onus is on the club that is making the signing to be able to, upon request, present evidence of the permission being granted within the free agency period. Instances where a signing is disputed or there is no public evidence of the player's commitment to the club can be subject to such requests.

Players who are new to the league signed during the offseason are required to make a post on the main Sweet FA forum confirming their participation with their club before officially being added to the squad.

Any player movement not specified in the rules is not considered legal. In the event of uncertainty, the club must contact the administrator for consideration with the committee.


Failure to adhere to these Rules will be punished under Sec[6] of these Rules, as determined by the Administrator.


6A) Major Offence

The following list of offences will result in a 4 point plus a 2-game suspension for the captain (if there are multiple captains at a club, the captain of the offending club will be randomly selected for suspension) in league standings:

Failing to submit a valid initial squad in the squad submission thread by deadline as per 4A


6B) Minor Offence

The following list of offences will result in a Strike under a 'Three-Strike Policy'. Which is outlined below:

1. Official Warning
2. 1-game suspension to the captain, if there are multiple captains at a club, the captain of the offending club will be randomly selected for suspension.
3. 2 point deduction, plus a 2-game suspension for the captain (if there are multiple captains at a club, the captain of the offending club will be randomly selected for suspension)

Failing to satisfy the maximum squad list requirement in season (30 eligible players) as per 4A
Incorrect squad changes as per 4B
Incorrect player signing as per 4C and 4D
Naming an ineligible player on a team sheet as per 5B
Incorrect spelling of player names in a team sheet as per 5A
Incorrect team sheet formatting as per 5A
Any post in the squad submission thread notifying a squad change that did not occur as per 4A & 4B

 

[serial_thrilla]

Kennedy Parker

Now I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but there appears to be a rule breach in the Round 1 team sheet submissions.

Our good friends at the Old Boys seem to have made a boo boo.



Now, as we can all recall, the Old Boys got slapped on the wrist for the incorrect player signing of TJohn (HERE).

This, of course, means that TJohn was not signed up as a player during the off-season Free Agency [4D].

4D) Free Agency

Off-Season

Free agency occurs between seasons from the earlier of; the elimination of your team from finals or the conclusion of the grand final to squad submission date. Free agents may only be signed with permission. Player movement between clubs is unrestricted with permission of the player. The onus is on the club that is making the signing to be able to, upon request, present evidence of the permission being granted within the free agency period. Instances where a signing is disputed or there is no public evidence of the player's commitment to the club can be subject to such requests.

Players who are new to the league signed during the offseason are required to make a post on the main Sweet FA forum confirming their participation with their club before officially being added to the squad.

Any player movement not specified in the rules is not considered legal. In the event of uncertainty, the club must contact the administrator for consideration with the committee.

This clearly means TJohn was not an eligible member of the Old Boys at the point of squad submission. The next course of action it seemed for the Old Boys was to sign up their new rookie TJohn as a New/Returning Player in the sign up thread (also 4D) over the next few days:

4D) Free Agency

New/Returning Players

The official process for signing players during the season under the new/returning category is that a player who posts an intention to join the league, by posting in the signup thread during a season, will be required to complete the Application form as below:

The official process for signing players during the season under In-Season Free Agency or new/returning is a player who posts an intention to join the league by posting in the signup thread during a season will be required to complete the Application form as below:

FORM:

Name (your BigFooty username):
Preferred Position 1:
Preferred Position 2:
Preferred Position 3:
Number:
Height:
Weight:
Preferred Team (if you have one):
State (optional):
How did you hear about the Sweet F.A?:

Teams may then bid publicly or privately for their services, and the applicant should engage with the bidding teams. If a player nominated a club in the sign up form, then the nominated club is free to sign them after 24 hrs, provided no adjustments to the nominated club have been made in this time period. Any disputes between teams regarding who the player has joined after the 24 hour period must be clarified by the player themselves before they can be added to a squad list. The 24 hour period rule can be waived, only if the team does not have enough eligible players to fill the team and less than 24 hours remains until the teamsheet deadline.

We all waited with bated for this formality to take place...but alas, no. Despite TJohn being active on the Sweet FA sub-forum, there was no application to join.

But then:

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OPHIDIAN OLD BOYS FFC OFFICIAL TEAM SHEET
Season 36: ROUND 1 vs East Side Phoenix

B: Ned_Flanders / BRAB / The Cryptkeeper

HB: Fleabane / Elton Johns Wig / TJohn

C: kenneyswarriors / Ligma / U2tigers

HF: Ace Rimmer / Robertio / Freddy Swift

F: haydo / Bonz / Wickzki

Foll: Tigerturbulance / Braklet / Mrs Turbo

INT: Hoos / Wacky Tiger​

Specifically:


It appears that TJohn has appeared on the Round 1 Old Boys team sheet, despite not being a legally listed player on the Old Boys list!!

Now, what rule does this breach specifically? Let's look at 5B:

5B) Eligibility

Players that receive BigFooty site bans (red cards) should not be named in team sheets where possible. Players who receive 'Day Off' bans or Infractions which accumulate points, will only be considered ineligible for one match should it be a direct result of breaching rule SEC[1] or 2A on the SFA Board and should not be named in team sheets where possible. All other day off bans will be not render players ineligible. "Gifted" bans, whether permanent or not will also not render players ineligible for selection.

If a player becomes ineligible after the team sheet submission deadline they will be allowed to play the match they are named in and will be considered ineligible for any subsequent matches after that for the duration equal to that of their ban.

More than one ban given for breaches of SEC[1] or 2A of Sweet FA rules in one season will result in the offending player ruled ineligible for individual awards of that season.

Should a club claim to have been unaware of a banned player, the Administrator reserves the right to waive a penalty.

An eligible player must have an active BigFooty account, and be listed on the club's Official Squad by the submission deadline, or prior to the team sheet deadline if the player was recruited in-season. Closed or permanently banned accounts are not consider to be active and therefore those players must be removed from the submitted squad and the squad minimum criteria must still be met.

"An eligible player must have an active BigFooty account, and be listed on the club's Official Squad by the submission deadline, or prior to the team sheet deadline if the player was recruited in-season."
Now TJohn was not legally listed on the Official Squad by submission deadline, due to the aforementioned rule breach, and was not added in-season via the sign-up thread. So one must assume that TJohn is not an eligible player for selection.

Oops!

So what penalty are we looking at here?

SEC [6]. PENALTIES

The Administrator shall apply the following penalties for breaches of the Rules under Sections 4 and 5 as above.

6A) Major Offence

The following list of offences will result in a 4 point plus a 2-game suspension for the captain (if there are multiple captains at a club, the captain of the offending club will be randomly selected for suspension) in league standings:

• Failing to submit a valid initial squad in the squad submission thread by deadline as per 4A
• Failing to satisfy the minimum initial squad list requirement (22 eligible players) as per 4A
• Failing to satisfy the minimum team list requirement in season (20 eligible players) as per 4A
• Failure to submit a complete team sheet in the submission thread by the deadline as per 5A
• Editing the team sheet after team sheet deadline as per 5A
• Deliberately hindering the simulation team through disregard of 5A, 5B and/or 5C.
• Deliberately naming a player that is deemed ineligible as per 5B

6B) Minor Offence

The following list of offences will result in a Strike under a 'Three-Strike Policy'. Which is outlined below:

1. Official Warning
2. 1-game suspension to the captain, if there are multiple captains at a club, the captain of the offending club will be randomly selected for suspension.
3. 2 point deduction, plus a 2-game suspension for the captain (if there are multiple captains at a club, the captain of the offending club will be randomly selected for suspension)

• Failing to satisfy the maximum squad list requirement in season (30 eligible players) as per 4A
• Incorrect squad changes as per 4B
• Incorrect player signing as per 4C and 4D
• Naming an ineligible player on a team sheet as per 5B
• Incorrect spelling of player names in a team sheet as per 5A
• Incorrect team sheet formatting as per 5A
• Any post in the squad submission thread notifying a squad change that did not occur as per 4A & 4B

Surely, it is either a 6A Major Offence (Deliberately naming a player that is deemed ineligible as per 5B), or 6B Minor Offence (Naming an ineligible player on a team sheet as per 5B). Determining which of these is appropriate will surely be the crux of the Old Boys defence of this charge in the Committee - since the rest of this is fairly straight forward.

Given that notice of TJohn's ineligibility as an Off-Season signing was only highlighted a few days ago, and that TJohn's status as an ineligible player on a team sheet was mentioned IN THE COMMITTEE by an opposing team's representative - that the Old Boys representative SURELY witnessed...I fear that we may be looking at a Major Offence and a loss of 4 premiership points for the Old Boys.

Over to you Kennedy Parker and the esteemed Committee.

 

[Cadsky]

Oopsie