Opinion Sack Hinkley 8 - "Ask me in August"

[JimmyBC]

Caro's last 18 months has been deplorable she's told umpteen porkies or been fed them, she scurries off to hide when she's called out etc. I think she's just about cooked it's time to retire.

 

[tribey]

"Man smiles ... More news at 6"

Presenting said ‘news’ while completely ignoring all context would be a smirkworthy cut if you weren’t dead serious.

 

[PowerLil]

Caro's last 18 months has been deplorable she's told umpteen porkies or been fed them, she scurries off to hide when she's called out etc. I think she's just about cooked it's time to retire.

She can be right about everything except Donuts Hinkley.

 

[Byrons Firen]

Caro's last 18 months has been deplorable she's told umpteen porkies or been fed them, she scurries off to hide when she's called out etc. I think she's just about cooked it's time to retire.

An investigative journalist with undisclosed 'agendas' what a contradiction in terms. Richmond, Hinkley, Good Friday footy and her

old standby the low hanging fruit of Dew and the GCS's. Declare your allegiances, it'll boost your credibility that I once held high.

 

[Brian McGee]

I am firmly in the amicable departure camp. It will be portrayed as Ken wanting something different and he will get a job elsewhere. The media will then portray it as us sitting on our hands and losing an all time great coach.

 

[Us against the rest]

Certainly has which is pleasing. Credit should go where it is due whoever that is (including Ken even though I can't stand him).

I would generally agree with the Ken part but the one problem I have is when has Hinkley ever spoken about the supporters, about how passionate we are and what we expect from our team, never Have I heard him say anything nice about the Port faithful. It's like we don't exist, nothing outside of the walls of Alberton is ever spoken about. This club used to be all about it's supporters, it used to be our club once, a club for supporters and community but since Hinkley has been here I have felt disconnected from the club and any concerns we may have are ignored and treated as white noise. The only credit I would give him is not getting us a wooden spoon under his watch.

 

[Alberton Proud]

I am firmly in the amicable departure camp. It will be portrayed as Ken wanting something different and he will get a job elsewhere. The media will then portray it as us sitting on our hands and losing an all time great coach.

 

[Seattle Mariners]

As a non Port supporter I am fascinated by this thread.

Do people actually still want him gone or is this thread full of sarcasm and satire about Hinkley being fired.

I can't fathom how any Port supporter would want him gone after the truly remarkable and magical season you guys are having.

 

[JimmyBC]

As a non Port supporter I am fascinated by this thread.

Do people actually still want him gone or is this thread full of sarcasm and satire about Hinkley being fired.

I can't fathom how any Port supporter would want him gone after the truly remarkable and magical season you guys are having.

We are 11 years deep with this bloke and we've still won nothing.

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

lol keep seeing randoms and media say Port are dumb to not extend Hinkley, yet they wouldn't take him as senior coach for their favourite club if offered the opportunity

 

[Chewy316]

As a non Port supporter I am fascinated by this thread.

Do people actually still want him gone or is this thread full of sarcasm and satire about Hinkley being fired.

I can't fathom how any Port supporter would want him gone after the truly remarkable and magical season you guys are having.

After 10 previous years of underachievement, fans are rightly sceptical that Ken is the right person for the job.

There has never been a doubt as to his ability to win games in the home and away season. The vitriol has been due to an inability to win a prelim final - 2 being at home, and one in which the performance was so insipid it could have justified an immediate dismissal.

Since Ken has been the senior coach, 11 clubs have made it to the grand final. Port are not one of them. Virtually every part of the club has been changed/altered in that timeframe except for the man in charge as senior coach.

If he doesn't make it this year with the talent on the current list, it may sound harsh in a vacuum, but taking his entire tenure into account, he should most definitely be moved on. This is a great list and is not going to slide down the ladder with a new coach. If Ken is unable to get it done this year, go out and find someone who can because another finals failure is simply not good enough when you've been there longer than a decade with nothing to show for it.

 

[finbarr]

lol keep seeing randoms and media say Port are dumb to not extend Hinkley, yet they wouldn't take him as senior coach for their favourite club if offered the opportunity

Because they all know Josh Carr is the one coaching.

 

[Alberton Proud]

As a non Port supporter I am fascinated by this thread.

Do people actually still want him gone or is this thread full of sarcasm and satire about Hinkley being fired.

I can't fathom how any Port supporter would want him gone after the truly remarkable and magical season you guys are having.

Just imagine if after 10.5 years Simon Goodwin had not even got you to grand final, let alone a series of embarrassing losses in key matches, where gold pass players didn't perform whilst trying to execute a mind numbingly negative game plan, and when lightly pressed he gaslit you and your fellow supporters for daring to question why !

Then imagine every Richmond supporter and media commentator telling you you're crazy not to resign him

And that's just the tip of a very deep and dark iceberg

 

[malcheski]

Oppo supporter: "Hey you'se guys should be grateful that you have Hinkers as coach, your team is flying!"

Us: "We will give him to you for free"

Oppo Supporters: "Oh, nah"

 

[simba_]

As a non Port supporter I am fascinated by this thread.

Do people actually still want him gone or is this thread full of sarcasm and satire about Hinkley being fired.

I can't fathom how any Port supporter would want him gone after the truly remarkable and magical season you guys are having.

he's literally not even coaching, he's told us multiple times he was kicked out of the box, so what makes you think he is the catalyst for this "remarkable and magical season"

 

[Powerade 08]

As a non Port supporter I am fascinated by this thread.

Do people actually still want him gone or is this thread full of sarcasm and satire about Hinkley being fired.

I can't fathom how any Port supporter would want him gone after the truly remarkable and magical season you guys are having.

Simon Goodwin is a bad coach being carried by a handful of top line players, Keninkley is a bad coach being carried by a handful of top liners. Its not that hard to work out.

 

[Scholz Supremacy]

As a non Port supporter I am fascinated by this thread.

Do people actually still want him gone or is this thread full of sarcasm and satire about Hinkley being fired.

I can't fathom how any Port supporter would want him gone after the truly remarkable and magical season you guys are having.

You’re everything I expect an opposition supporter who comes onto our board and sees a “Sack Hinkley Part 8” thread to be

 

[finbarr]

You watch your Robbo's, Whateley's et al bleating "Kenny deserves to be given the chance to see this through", even if another pre grand final exit ensues this September.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

As a non Port supporter I am fascinated by this thread.

Do people actually still want him gone or is this thread full of sarcasm and satire about Hinkley being fired.

I can't fathom how any Port supporter would want him gone after the truly remarkable and magical season you guys are having.

For a serious answer, the media has the memory of a goldfish whereas we've actually lived the past decade.

There are two questions being asked by a lot of Port supporters right now:

1. To what extent is this push up the ladder related to Ken. If the last 8 years of failure have not been Ken's fault because "he can't kick it for them", then he sure can't take full credit for this year so far. I've said for a while that if you look back at the last 11 years you see Ken rarely hinder performance (except perhaps in big games where he can be a handbrake), but also rarely be the guy that creates performance either. We did better in 2013 and 2014 with Walsh and Richo, we did better in 20 and 21 with Monty and Schofield. Now we're looking good again in 23 with Carr there and the other coaches in roles that suit them better. Its a team effort. The years where Ken hasn't had a stacked coach's box (2015-2018, 2022), we have massively under-performed. The only exception to this rule is 2019, but that was a year where we shat all over club traditions and tried to play without a captain which doomed us to failure regardless of coaching.

So the question is if you have a team effort that's working, and Ken is playing an adequate role in that coaching group, why change it? The problem is that we may have to change it because Josh Carr, who is likely more responsible for this year than Ken on our available information, could potentially go if we don't make Carr head coach. Push come to shove if we are in a situation where we can only keep one, I'm keeping Carr over Ken.

2. What is the actual performance metric by which we can consider this season a success. The minimum expectation for a coach in their 11th year is surely a flag. Being 12-2, or 11-4 or 9-3 as we've been in the past, means nothing unless we can show that form on the big stage.

 

[bow and arrow]

We need to part ways even if we win a flag. He can go out on a high. 11 years is enough!

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[BornPort]

You watch your Robbo's, Whateley's et al bleating "Kenny deserves to be given the chance to see this through", even if another pre grand final exit ensues this September.

They are already saying this. Robbo on Monday literally said "Who cares if he hasn't won a premiership in 11 years?".

 

[TazD]

They are all ready saying this. Robbo on Monday literally said "Who cares if he hasn't won a premiership in 11 years?".

Who cares? The members and supporters paying his wage.

 

[manureid]

Heard the tail end of Camporeale on radio saying be careful what you wish for Port supporters if Ken is sacked/leaves. The grass is not always greener. He is right, we could hire a coach who doesnt win us a Premiership I guess.....

 

[70sDinosaur]

Whilst I'm not outright calling this out, there are factors that make this challenging to believe, and a few that might support it.

In this scenario, the players can't be aware right? Or they are? They're coming out nearly every week in support of Ken in the media. Josh Carr is doing some heavy lifting for somebody who is receiving basically zero credit. Ken is very excited to be winning for a coach who has effectively been neutered. Is this something that is to be revealed at some point? It's going to look awful strange to the media if we sack him after winning a GF. What kind of reception is JC going to receive from the happy clappers next season? Are the other assistants reporting to JC already? Why would Ken not be out there looking for another job now? If he is, how is this being kept secret? There are so many questions and it's such a bold move that it's difficult to believe. If our list management people were in charge of the decision, I could believe it, they've made some bold moves in the past, but Kochie and co?

Before reading this post it had never really dawned on me that Josh Carr's initials are JC.

Just think about that. JC.

Those are the initials of the immortal, our Lord and Saviour...

John Cahill.

It's a sign. The next JC will start coaching us in 2024, exactly 50 years after the last JC started coaching us.

 

[malcheski]

Before reading this post it had never really dawned on me that Josh Carr's initials are JC.

Just think about that. JC.

Those are the initials of the immortal, our Lord and Saviour...

John Cahill.

It's a sign. The next JC will start coaching us in 2024, exactly 50 years after the last JC started coaching us.

Jesus Christ.......you're right!