Sam Newman- people have had enough of this shameless racist.

[_Mike_]

Hey folks, just a friendly reminder that this thread is about Sam Newman. All discussion on the upcoming referendum - please continue ON THE SRP BOARD

 

[Crumpet_avenger]

Are you going to boo the National anthem?

Nup

 

[Nikita Blue]

Sam is entitled to an opinion, just the same as others are "entitled" to lambast him for his opinion.

Thanks George Brandis.

 

[Shadow89]

"The 1973 Aquarius Festival held in Nimbin, New South Wales, by the Australian Union of Students (AUS) has been documented as Australia's first publicly observed Welcome to Country"

"The second recorded Welcome to Country occurred in 1976, when entertainers Ernie Dingo and Richard Walley developed a ceremony to welcome a group of Māori artists who were participating in the Perth International Arts Festival."

Welcome to Country - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

So it is a hippy-inspired ceremony pioneered by successful entertainers a few decades ago.

Yes?

Oh god...it would have taken you two seconds to see your mistake here...after searching freakin'' Wiki of all places for your info:

"Australia's first publicly observed"

This doesn't mean that it hasn't happened until this point. It just means it was shown to the wider public in the 70's. Here's a National Geographic article that states exactly this in the opening paragraph:

"FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS Aboriginal people have performed a type of ‘Welcome to Country’ ceremony when one tribal group sought to enter the lands of another. This traditional protocol took many forms, it could be spoken, sung, performed and possibly there would be a smoking ceremony, depending on the traditions of the local group.

Almost exactly 40 years ago these ceremonies first began to enter the Australian mainstream after a performance by West Australian Richard Walley and the Middar Theatre at the Perth International Arts Festival (which is on again for another few days) of 1976."

40 years of the 'modern' Welcome to Country - Australian Geographic

An indigenous Australian tradition millennia-old, Welcome to Country's mainstream popularity began to snowball 40 years ago.

www.australiangeographic.com.au

 

[Kappa]

Oh darling, we don't need a 'no' vote to know that this country is one of the most racist on earth.

All it took is some on-brand Murdoch dog whistling, supported and driven by a real-life Voldemort, to confuse the 'simple' Australians into believing that the Indigenous people will divide our country and politics, by having a say in matters that concern Indigenous people.

'Those scary Indigenous people are coming for my rights...lock your doors and protect the women and children...oh but I'm not racist.'

Gee whizz you really need to get out more

Never been to Africa, Asia, Europe, the middle East or North America I'm guessing.

 

[BomberManU]

The Ch 7 low voice over guy sucks too.

THIS! Can't believe they run with it, just sounds ridiculous!

 

[South of the Yarra]

lol haven’t travelled?


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You obviously haven’t opened your eyes in this country.

 

[Rotayjay]

A disgusting man.

 

[3KZ is Football]

Are you going to boo the National anthem?

Things That Make You Go “Boo”

• Any performance of the National Anthem
• Anzac Day Parade
• Geelong Grammar School
• The Australian Flag
• Australia Day
• Carols by Candlelight
• King’s Birthday Holidays
• Any mention of ‘The Seekers’
• James Cook
• Robert Menzies
• The 1956 Melbourne Olympics
• Boxing Kangaroos
• Burke and Wills
• Banjo Patterson
• The White Australia Policy
• Billy Hughes

Boo at every opportunity. Boo loud and boo often. Most importantly, resist all invitations to engage in reasoned debate or unpack your position. Put your fingers in your ears and close your eyes.

Remember, if you don’t know, boo.

 

[Shadow89]

Gee whizz you really need to get out more

Never been to Africa, Asia, Europe, the middle East or North America I'm guessing.

Yeah you are guessing. Been to 4 of those continents. The difference with our racism here is it's so institutional, that we do not believe it exists or we're ignorant to it. Look at our reaction when Indigenous people try to get a say on Indigenous issues 'oh you're being divisive...sit in the corner and shut up.'

Nice job though deflecting.

 

[Jibroni]

While we’re at it let’s boo the minutes silence and last post on Anzac Day.

None of us were at gallipoli, why should the diggers get special treatment?

Anzac Day is done annually while the other ceremony is constantly presented when we do not need to be reminded all the time. There is a difference.

 

[ChristianBoy]

You may live in Australia but that does not mean you are welcome.

Do you understand the difference?

Only one group of people get to decide who is welcome on this land and who is not.

Soon, hopefully, this will even be enshrined in the constitution.

What rubbish. These sorts of comments are divisive.

 

[Jibroni]

The Welcome to Country is only being done in finals and as a lead in to the anthem, so there isn’t a Welcome at “every event”.

It happens at every game at Adelaide Oval during the season. Im not against the ceremony during finals but i am against the frequency of it.

 

[loki04]

Yes, as have I. I will leave it as that.

We are all shaped by our own experiences and that is how we form opinions, hate and racism these days isn't only a white issue.

Good and bad people exist in every race, not just "whites" and had he grew up in aboriginal dominant rural/small city areas, his experiences could have him believe differently to how you view it with your family.

It's never as black and white as people on BF make it out to be. People can disagree with some points and agree with others but instead of taking it on board and considering where they are coming from to form that view its easier for people see red and label the commentator racist etc.

Newman should not of said to boo it but it is an over used and very much tokenistic by many industries and schools, media everything.

Are they welcoming all people to their own country even the ones born here or are they welcoming people who have travelled here to visit?

Are we not one country and one people ? If so why welcome those people born to country to the country?

Jacinta Price speaks very well on this subject.
According to her, taught by her elders, her people believe that if you are born here then your spirit is of country not foreign.

 

[loki04]

What rubbish. These sorts of comments are divisive.

Vote for the voice!

 

[Chief Ten Beers]

Let's live in the future and make sure everyone gets treated equally.

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Everyone is treated equally. Well only as of now the law applies to everyone equally*...

Except for WA, but luckily they're repealing that law.

 

[Chief Ten Beers]

You may live in Australia but that does not mean you are welcome.

Only one group of people get to decide who is welcome on this land and who is not.

This is the definition of racism. Lol, well done.

 

[FFB1]

As someone who hears welcome to country at the very least 10 times a week before work meetings (record of 5 times in one day) it lost any meaning for me personally a long time ago. As such I tune out when it’s done at AFL games (and at work meetings).

But booing it, yeah nah.

 

[Goroyals22]

Oh darling, we don't need a 'no' vote to know that this country is one of the most racist on earth.

All it took is some on-brand Murdoch dog whistling, supported and driven by a real-life Voldemort, to confuse the 'simple' Australians into believing that the Indigenous people will divide our country and politics, by having a say in matters that concern Indigenous people.

'Those scary Indigenous people are coming for my rights...lock your doors and protect the women and children...oh but I'm not racist.'

Always makes me laugh about Australia being one of the most racist on earth……
Seems to be an awful lot of people who want to come and start their lives here and enjoy it when they are here..

Once again a snippet of what Sam has said has been taken and used for news… all of the things about living in harmony isn’t going to cut it in the news cycle.

Anyway it’s simple with the Welcome to Country… don’t be in your seats when it’s done, arrive after it’s done at meetings , turn the tv channel over or radio off whilst Hutchy does his Pc thing.. it’s easy enough to avoid and let the virtuous feel good in their cocoon.

 

[loki04]

There are Stolen Generation children who are only 50. It still burns deep.

Over 250,000 white stolen in same time period dwarfing the numbers of indigenous who were also taken in that time.

Not all of the stolen generation were stolen either there is quite a large umbrella of kids given away with things like unable to feed 8 kids as the reason. All of which fly under stolen gens banners.

There are a couple of articles and studies into it that paints a much different picture then the mainstream are taught today in terms of evidence for race based reasoning for stolen children (or handed down story telling which is open for embilishment/twisting, memory fading or changing, hiding guilt, monetary reasons etc i know, i know, im not aloud to mention those possibilities).
This is not to say there aren't any or legitimate cases but the net is wide open to catch all.

 

[loki04]

A Welcome to Country is thousands of years old. Don’t be one of them.

But they didn't welcome themselves (who lived and were born to said country) to country now did they? And didn't do it on a daily basis across every interaction either on going perpetually.

 

[mouncey2franklin]

"FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS Aboriginal people have performed a type of ‘Welcome to Country’ ceremony

That article doesn't explain the evidence this claim is based on.

We do know and agree that the 'welcome to country' performance as seen today was originally carried out by a performing arts troupe in the 70s.

 

[mouncey2franklin]

That still makes it older than our national anthem and everyone stands obediently for that.

Wrong again, Gough.

Advance Australia Fair - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[loki04]

Are you going to boo the National anthem?

Well I think it's a shit anthem so , prefer to change it to the song, "we are one but we are many and from all the lands we come" as the anthem".

 

[md20]

Personally it doesnt negatively affect me. Im happy sitting there for 2-5mins while its done.

What I do think about though are the players having to stand still for a period of time after warming up/preparing for a game. Especially during finals or any game where the national anthem is then performed.

 

[loki04]

You may live in Australia but that does not mean you are welcome.

Do you understand the difference?

Only one group of people get to decide who is welcome on this land and who is not.

Soon, hopefully, this will even be enshrined in the constitution.

Thanks