SC Midfielders Discussion Thread

[ThePezDispenser]

I've got him in my team at the moment, he averaged 107 in his last 6 games last year and looks to have carried that form into this year. I've just got to hope he keeps playing the same way now...

I'm not sure if I've written this before, however I can't see why people want Kennedy after an ok NAB cup game.

He only got more than 100 on four occasions last year and in the game the other night he racked up 30 possies yet only managed to get 104.

That is what you call a poor SC player. In comparison when Judd, Dal Santo, Montagna, Goddard, Murphy, Pendlebury etc get 30 possies they will score in excess of 120 points

 

[Yoda_]

Just on Josh Kennedy (Sydney)

He only cracked the hundred twice in 2010 (102, 110) whilst in 2009, he did not manage to crack the hundred..

Think their are better options out there.

Cotchin at 384k could represent some fantastic value if you want to believe the hype over his pre season.

 

[ThePezDispenser]

Just on Josh Kennedy (Sydney)

He only cracked the hundred twice in 2010 (102, 110) whilst in 2009, he did not manage to crack the hundred..

Think their are better options out there.

Cotchin at 384k could represent some fantastic value if you want to believe the hype over his pre season.

At 384k would have to average 100 ppg (something he has never managed to do) to be worth it. That's a pretty high risk on an injury prone player.

 

[Ed_Gein]

I'm not sure if I've written this before, however I can't see why people want Kennedy after an ok NAB cup game.

He only got more than 100 on four occasions last year and in the game the other night he racked up 30 possies yet only managed to get 104.

That is what you call a poor SC player. In comparison when Judd, Dal Santo, Montagna, Goddard, Murphy, Pendlebury etc get 30 possies they will score in excess of 120 points

I think people getting Kennedy at the moment are hoping he is going to increase his average in 2011 and have a break out year. He could well do, but for the reason you just pointed out, 30 possies and 20+ clearances for just over 100 isn't all that great. He won't get those sort of stats every week. But at 394k, i think it's an ok gamble if your looking for a player within that sort of price range. He will rise. But by how much, who knows?

Just on Josh Kennedy (Sydney)

He only cracked the hundred twice in 2010 (102, 110) whilst in 2009, he did not manage to crack the hundred..

4 times i'm reading. Rounds 6, 19, 21 and 22. Came good towards the end of the year and is showing that same form in the early parts of 2011. I think he could be an ok risk.

 

[Super Hans]

I;d choose Hodge, even though i didn't realise he was still carrying an injury. I've always loved having Cross in my team. This year will be the first time i haven't picked him, he's a bit too expensive for a player that doesn't have a really good top end when it comes to scoring. But he's ultra consistent though. It's a tough call, cause Cross never gets tagged, but he's a great linkup player through the middle that loves to handball, so he doesnt get many clangers. Hodge does it all, and has a pretty good top end. Does get tagged which is the major downside. It's 50/50, i'd slightly lean towards Hodge though.

Cross will give you 90+ every week but rarely get above 130, Hodge will get 150+ more often but will get a few 70 or less games. I had the same problem but the fact that Cross is my favorite player in the AFL made it a bit easier.


Which of these midfields looks better...

1: Swan Montagna Cross Swallow Trengove Swallow Heppal


2: Swan Montagna Cross Bartel Anthony Swallow Heppal

 

[The_Air_Up_There]

These two decisions are beginning to do my head in..

Andrew Swallow (Nth) vs Bartel

Rawlings vs Broughton

Thanks!

 

[The_Air_Up_There]

2: Swan Montagna Cross Bartel Anthony Swallow Heppal

i'd roll with that!

 

[shaun1800]

Just on Josh Kennedy (Sydney)

He only cracked the hundred twice in 2010 (102, 110) whilst in 2009, he did not manage to crack the hundred..
.

I'm not sure where you're getting those numbers from but footywire suggests he cracked it 5 times (4 times in the last 6 games with a top of 128).

Anyway the kicking efficiency issue a few people have brought up has me wondering, I'll probably end up upgrading him.

 

[MightyMark]

These two decisions are beginning to do my head in..

Andrew Swallow (Nth) vs Bartel

Rawlings vs Broughton

Thanks!

Bartel over Swallow, histroy tells us the Bartel always steps up his game when Ablett isn't playing, so no Ablett means a better Bartel.

Broughton Vs Rawlings is a tough one. If Rawlings effeciency was better he would be a lock, but sadly that is not the case. I think Broughton is a better super coach player, but he has injury concerns (only played 15 games last year).

I think Rawlings is the safer option and should score around the same, but neither would be a bad choice.

 

[Super Gusto]

Anyone jumping on Burgoyne this year?

Silky smooth and doesn't waste a disposal. Was an Elite SC a couple of years back. Word is that his fitness is back to it's peak.

 

[MightyMark]

Anyone jumping on Burgoyne this year?

Silky smooth and doesn't waste a disposal. Was an Elite SC a couple of years back. Word is that his fitness is back to it's peak.

He looks as though he could return to a 100 ppg average this year, and if you wanted to save a little coin in the midfield would be a more than viable option. If I hadn't saved money elsewhere, he would be taking the spot of one of my premium mids.

 

[Will.B.Worth.Da.Waite]

what are people thinking about Atley?

 

[GotTheGoodes]

Just a few points on Kennedy:

- Given there's no Kirk this year his tackle count should increase.
- By the sounds of it the Swans are aiming to increase the defensive aspects of their game which should suit Kennedy's in-&-under style of game play.
- He's carrying some great form from last year and if there was ever a perfect time for a break out year then this is it.

I have him in my team this year and think he'll do well. At the very least I think he'll pull consistent scores through the year and make me some coin for an end of year upgrade.

 

[ThePezDispenser]

Not sold on Kennedy, at that price if you plan on upgrading him later nayway there are far better options.

 

[GotTheGoodes]

Not sold on Kennedy, at that price if you plan on upgrading him later nayway there are far better options.

Fair enough mate, each to their own. I'm banking on him lifting his average, being a keeper and not having to trade him out. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

[Bloods]

Not sold on Kennedy, at that price if you plan on upgrading him later nayway there are far better options.

Based on his last 4 games (2 finals and 2 NAB cup games), I'm pretty much sold.

 

[liam_13]

I did have Kennedy in my team about a fortnight ago (possibly less) and have now decided not to take him because he isn't unique any more, and there are other options with the same ability/potential output who people haven't been all over.

Just think for someone on his awkward price you could get a unique who could be the difference..

 

[liam_13]

Bartel over Swallow, histroy tells us the Bartel always steps up his game when Ablett isn't playing, so no Ablett means a better Bartel.

Broughton Vs Rawlings is a tough one. If Rawlings effeciency was better he would be a lock, but sadly that is not the case. I think Broughton is a better super coach player, but he has injury concerns (only played 15 games last year).

I think Rawlings is the safer option and should score around the same, but neither would be a bad choice.

There may also be games where Rawlings plays a total lock down job, ala Clint Jones, instead of playing a Kane Cornes role.

 

[Cruiserweight Champ]

I did have Kennedy in my team about a fortnight ago (possibly less) and have now decided not to take him because he isn't unique any more, and there are other options with the same ability/potential output who people haven't been all over.

Just think for someone on his awkward price you could get a unique who could be the difference..

Surely Kennedy would be in fewer than 10% of all teams ths making him a very unique pick.

 

[Daniels]

Surely Kennedy would be in fewer than 10% of all teams ths making him a very unique pick.

Even with a bit of pre season hype I reckon less

 

[ThePezDispenser]

Based on his last 4 games (2 finals and 2 NAB cup games), I'm pretty much sold.

Yeah, fair enough. Dismiss all other information we have on him.

The fact of the matter is your premium mids have to average over 110.

From memory my midfielders come round 22 were Ablett, Judd, Swan, Pendlebury, Montagna, Dal Santo - all of them averaged at least 110. I couldn't imagine why anyone would go into the last 6-8 rounds without having a similar structure.

So will a bloke who accumulated 30 possies in a match, 22 of them contested and still only score 104 points (in a close game where points are worth even more) average at least 110 this year?

 

[dlanod]

So will a bloke who accumulated 30 possies in a match, 22 of them contested and still only score 104 points (in a close game where points are worth even more) average at least 110 this year?

NAB Cup games don't have the full 3300 points allocated. http://www.fanfooty.com.au/game/matchscores.html?id=3695 has him at 113 out of about 2900. The points are divided amongst eight more players than usual. If you factor in those two points, he made the equivalent of 151 points. I'm not going to pick him, but you're making yourself look like an idiot by ranting on about his 104 points when that total is basically meaningless.

 

[MrChristo]

...also, who cares if he's "not a SuperCoach player"?

Plenty of 'Premiums' get their high numbers through sheer weight of possession.

He had a better SC/DT ratio last year than Swan, and had a better SC score than DT in each of his last 8 games...

...he only got over 21 possessions 6 times the whole of last season, so I would have thought getting 30 would be a pretty good sign for him, pre-season or not.

(PS. Add the two finals to his 'last 4 games' last year. )

 

[Bring back Moloney]

What do people think of Liam Anthony? I reckon he might be capable of averaging 100, and is relatively cheap!

I did have Murphy as M4, with Petrie as 2nd ruck, but now I've gone Anthony as M4 and upgraded to Jolly in R2.

Good move you think?

 

[SJ]

NAB Cup games don't have the full 3300 points allocated. http://www.fanfooty.com.au/game/matchscores.html?id=3695 has him at 113 out of about 2900. The points are divided amongst eight more players than usual. If you factor in those two points, he made the equivalent of 151 points. I'm not going to pick him, but you're making yourself look like an idiot by ranting on about his 104 points when that total is basically meaningless.

You can basically multiply NAB Cup scores by 1.25 due to minutes and number of players (80/70 x 48/44).