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SFNL Division 3 2018

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HOMESICK said:
Grape vine says Falcons have had 50-60 blokes on the track, with a lot of handy recruits.
Hills looking strong.
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The reason this is so is because the club has a core group of players that have been there since 2011, players recruited have either been mates of players or have come on their own looking for a club no money exchanges hands and if it does very minimal, there last 2 coaches which includes the one coaching now care about the club they didn't come in with agenders or promises of players coming with them.

The change in culture and direction since the end of 2013 has been a steady rise culminating in 2 reserve flags and an appearance by the Seniors in the GF last season, the Pres and VP have been there for the last 4 years in those positions so they are solid enough off field.

Hallams rise was too rapid hence when things go wrong the wheels fall off, coaches come and go but if players are connected to the coach the bottom falls out of the club its starting to remind me of Parkmore 2006 era.

Hallams next phase is crucial to long term survival the appointments made here on will be vital for the club.
 

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Gary Seven said:
The reason this is so is because the club has a core group of players that have been there since 2011, players recruited have either been mates of players or have come on their own looking for a club no money exchanges hands and if it does very minimal, there last 2 coaches which includes the one coaching now care about the club they didn't come in with agenders or promises of players coming with them.

The change in culture and direction since the end of 2013 has been a steady rise culminating in 2 reserve flags and an appearance by the Seniors in the GF last season, the Pres and VP have been there for the last 4 years in those positions so they are solid enough off field.

Hallams rise was too rapid hence when things go wrong the wheels fall off, coaches come and go but if players are connected to the coach the bottom falls out of the club its starting to remind me of Parkmore 2006 era.

Hallams next phase is crucial to long term survival the appointments made here on will be vital for the club.
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Jeeez we didn't ask for their life story , take a deep breathe BIG fella
 
And just for the record the falcons life story would be boring as a gum boot starring contest......useless it was based around brooksey then I'd watch it that for sure
 
When you flash cash around you only get short term fix, Hallam could've/should've/whatever they didn't win a flag.
More money would need to be spent to become competetive the following season, which would have been unstainable in the longer term.
Build a good culture first, with off field stability, and be selective with recruiting(if you can), a slow burn to the top of the mountain.
Add a piece here and there, encourage junior program by playing promising juniors in games against the lower opposition, if deserved give them more games.
You will always get some ups and downs along the way (good seasons/poor seasons) but the strong culture will carry the club through those poor seasons.
By the mid '90's a local club was in dire trouble, they a have been a top performing club for the last 13 or so years.
It is possible for Hallam to change it around or just about any club, but it is a lot of hard work over a sustained period of time.
You need people off field who are going to be in it for the club glory not there own glory. (that's the hard part!)
 
tooeasy12 said:
Hallam dropping down to div 4 I’ve heard
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Would be piss weak if the league allowed that. Several clubs have been forced to stay up in recent years even though they knew they were going to be beaten badly for the season. Ask Clayton about last year. Hallam should tough it out, or be forced to. They are not struggling financially. One tough year won’t kill them.
 
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Gary Seven said:
The reason this is so is because the club has a core group of players that have been there since 2011, players recruited have either been mates of players or have come on their own looking for a club no money exchanges hands and if it does very minimal, there last 2 coaches which includes the one coaching now care about the club they didn't come in with agenders or promises of players coming with them.

The change in culture and direction since the end of 2013 has been a steady rise culminating in 2 reserve flags and an appearance by the Seniors in the GF last season, the Pres and VP have been there for the last 4 years in those positions so they are solid enough off field.

Hallams rise was too rapid hence when things go wrong the wheels fall off, coaches come and go but if players are connected to the coach the bottom falls out of the club its starting to remind me of Parkmore 2006 era.

Hallams next phase is crucial to long term survival the appointments made here on will be vital for the club.
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What crap.

Endeavour hills have been shite for years.
Reserves flags mean nothing.
They have been in the bottom 6-7 clubs in the lowest div of the weakest Comp in metro Footy since their beginning.

They have tried to recruit from rival clubs with cash but not been successful. If a few guns walked in and sped up the clubs rise they would have jumped at the chance, just like Hallam.

They have 19s on the back of the coach crossing over from End Hills juniors.
Who’s to say if he was to leave to coach another club they wouldn’t all follow, just like the Hallam kids?

They haven’t had to worry about player retention because they haven’t had anyone worth poaching ( one or two notable exceptions).

They have made finals once. Another decent year and a few of their players might start looking at testing themselves at a higher level. Offers from rival clubs with $$$ might come also. Then we will see how their culture holds up.

At least Hallam made finals two years in row before they’ve had to take a step backwards. I’d wait until End hills beat that achievement before I’d go bragging about how much better their club build is.

Hallam will bounce back because there are good people there, just like End hills and most other clubs.

You are right in saying their coaching appointment is vital, especially in that area with the issues already discussed on here, but when is a coaching appointment not a crucial one for the club?
 
Tackle Bag said:
What crap.

Endeavour hills have been shite for years. Fact but getting better
Reserves flags mean nothing.
They have been in the bottom 6-7 clubs in the lowest div of the weakest Comp in metro Footy since their beginning. Fact also, obviously you play or coach in the same crap comp.

They have tried to recruit from rival clubs with cash but not been successful. If a few guns walked in and sped up the clubs rise they would have jumped at the chance, just like Hallam. Not fact never offered rival players from same comp $

They have 19s on the back of the coach crossing over from End Hills juniors. Fact good management from the club & the coach is an EH person

Who’s to say if he was to leave to coach another club they wouldn’t all follow, just like the Hallam kids? Won't happen coach has integrity not a mercenary.

They haven’t had to worry about player retention because they haven’t had anyone worth poaching ( one or two notable exceptions).Not fact all clubs have players worth poaching.

They have made finals once. Another decent year and a few of their players might start looking at testing themselves at a higher level. Offers from rival clubs with $$$ might come also. Then we will see how their culture holds up. All players at the club play for the club & mates $$$ rarely enter the conversation

At least Hallam made finals two years in row before they’ve had to take a step backwards. I’d wait until End hills beat that achievement before I’d go bragging about how much better their club build is. Well done on those 2 years 2 steps forward 4 steps back not a great recipe for success

Hallam will bounce back because there are good people there, just like End hills and most other clubs. Agree it takes time weed out the glory hunters

You are right in saying their coaching appointment is vital, especially in that area with the issues already discussed on here, but when is a coaching appointment not a crucial one for the club?
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Appoint a coach not chasing short term glory.

Good luck for the year
 

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HOMESICK said:
Hallam $1.20 last season after pre winning season comp, didn't make the make the big dance.
Big call very early on!
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Comparing Hallam to a full strength HPark team is what I'm confident about, I'm not sure people understand the difference in standard from Div 1 Southern to SEFNL, let alone Div 3
 
Dicky Ballsack said:
Comparing Hallam to a full strength HPark team is what I'm confident about, I'm not sure people understand the difference in standard from Div 1 Southern to SEFNL, let alone Div 3
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No in or outs so for for H/P in Clearances? Not sure where their improvement comes from. 20 to 30 goal defeats in SEFNL hardly means H/P are an automatic contender in Divvy 3 just because of the standard jump. They obviously have a lot of kids or Ressies players playing ones.
 
Dicky Ballsack said:
Comparing Hallam to a full strength HPark team is what I'm confident about, I'm not sure people understand the difference in standard from Div 1 Southern to SEFNL, let alone Div 3
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Hampton park haven’t been SEFNL quality for a while. Similar things were said of Keysie when they crossed over and they haven’t had any success yet.

The bottom half of SEFNL wouldn’t win the div 1 SFL flag.The top 3 of SEFNL would win it by 10 goals+ easy. It’s not the same comp it used to be.

HP would not have been in the top half in div 3 last year. Last years top 4 would have beaten them by huge margins, so they are building a whole new side.

I think you will be surprised.the top few sides are going to be better than you expect. Springy will be much better than you expect.

That said, with the recruits HP have picked up they will be top 2.
 
Tackle Bag said:
Hampton park haven’t been SEFNL quality for a while. Similar things were said of Keysie when they crossed over and they haven’t had any success yet.

The bottom half of SEFNL wouldn’t win the div 1 SFL flag.The top 3 of SEFNL would win it by 10 goals+ easy. It’s not the same comp it used to be.

HP would not have been in the top half in div 3 last year. Last years top 4 would have beaten them by huge margins, so they are building a whole new side.

I think you will be surprised.the top few sides are going to be better than you expect. Springy will be much better than you expect.

That said, with the recruits HP have picked up they will be top 2.
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i think you mean buying a whole new side not building
 
Tackle Bag said:
Hampton park haven’t been SEFNL quality for a while. Similar things were said of Keysie when they crossed over and they haven’t had any success yet. CORRECT

The bottom half of SEFNL wouldn’t win the div 1 SFL flag.The top 3 of SEFNL would win it by 10 goals+ easy. It’s not the same comp it used to be. CORRECT

HP would not have been in the top half in div 3 last year. Last years top 4 would have beaten them by huge margins, so they are building a whole new side. CORRECT

That said, with the recruits HP have picked up they will be top 2. TO BE CONFIRMED
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It's all well and good to say Div 3 Southern is a much weaker comp but the HP side of the last 2-5 years has been a div 3 southern comp standard team ... the new recruits and former players who left returning will make a big difference but to say flag contenders or favourites is a bit off the mark... Only time will tell.
 
Toothless Feral said:
It's all well and good to say Div 3 Southern is a much weaker comp but the HP side of the last 2-5 years has been a div 3 southern comp standard team ... the new recruits and former players who left returning will make a big difference but to say flag contenders or favourites is a bit off the mark... Only time will tell.
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Who have HP picked up out of interest? All I’ve heard about is their new recruits but nothing on the clearances
 
Dicky Ballsack said:
Comparing Hallam to a full strength HPark team is what I'm confident about, I'm not sure people understand the difference in standard from Div 1 Southern to SEFNL, let alone Div 3
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Getting beat by 250+ every week, hmmmm I really don't think it's that big of a gap.
 
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