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Dogs:

Shift Dogs to Sydney, cries MP

By Alex Mitchell, Sydney
March 12, 2006


The AFL has been urged to relocate one of its 10 Melbourne teams to western Sydney to expand the code's fan base, and one bold NSW Liberal MP has nominated the Western Bulldogs as the prime candidate.
"The ideal club to relocate to Sydney, or to play its home games here, would be the Western Bulldogs," veteran MP Charlie Lynn said, speaking in the NSW Legislative Council. "The Western Bulldogs share the same ethos as western Sydney and would be readily accepted into the fold.
"Blind Freddie knows that Melbourne cannot continue to support 10 AFL clubs and Freddie also knows that western Sydney is the economic engine room of NSW and the most culturally diverse region in Australia. To deny this region a home team would deny the code the opportunity to fulfil its potential as the greatest game in Australia."
Lynn's suggestion was flatly dismissed by Western Bulldogs president David Smorgon yesterday.
"I've never heard of Mr Lynn, but let me be the first person to tell him that the Western Bulldogs have been located in the western part of Melbourne since the early 1880s . . . we've only worked with two objectives in mind. One is to win a premiership for the club, the second that we remain in the western part of Melbourne.




"Our club, as expressed on a number of occasions, has got no interest whatsoever in relocating to the western part of Sydney despite it being mooted in the media by tragics such as Mr Lynn from time to time.
"Blind Freddy knows that there's been at least 10 clubs in Melbourne for the last 80 years and . . . blind Freddy knows that there won't be a team that is relocated to the western part of Sydney.
"I think blind Freddy Charlie Lynn, when he retires from parliament, should do one of two things. He might stand for the AFL commission to put forward his views, or let him become the new chairman of a club that should be formed in the western part of Sydney."
Lynn applauded Sydney's triumph in last year's grand final, saying the relocation of then South Melbourne to Sydney 20 years ago had been "a high-risk strategy". He said that after initial marketing disasters the club had adopted highly successful family oriented initiatives involving the "spirit of Kokoda".
Lynn, who has pioneered Australia's resurgence of interest in the Kokoda Trail, criticised the club for dropping the Kokoda memorial game from its schedule, adding: "The western Sydney theme was forgotten as the club withdrew to their base in the eastern suburbs."
He told MPs: "Western Sydneysiders have been completely dudded by the AFL for years.
"The denial of live coverage on a Friday night has shown the level of contempt AFL administrators and television moguls, who mostly seem to live on the eastern side of the bridge, have for the punters.
"Loyal followers of the code have had to endure traffic snarls or inadequate public transport to get to the Sydney Cricket Ground for years. This has been somewhat ameliorated recently by a handful of games at Stadium Australia, but it is not good enough.
"A recent proposal for other clubs to play more weekend games in Sydney is not the answer . . . the only satisfactory solution is for western Sydney to have its own team."
Speaking in Melbourne two weeks ago, AFL chief executive Andrew Demetriou told a conference of national sports editors that the league was serious about getting a team into western Sydney.
 
Ggggrrrrrrr :mad: I liked our President's response though.
 

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I'd like to see the research that supports the notion that Western Sydneyites are ready to embrace and support another team outside of the Swans.

To move another side, any side, to Sydney at this point in time would be disastrous.

Its taken over two decades and bucketloads of money just to get the Swans to be a viable concern in the Harbour City, and the downside of this for potential newcomers, is that Sydney IS the AFL for the vast majority of Sydneysiders. Try reading a Sydney-based paper and all you'll get AFL-wise is articles relating to the Swans. This may well have been necessary in allowing the code to win sufficient support in an hostile territory, but it is now exceedingly difficult to see another club getting a foot in the door now as a consequence. I also suspect that the Swans would do a Brisbane Broncos and thug any newbie local side out of the area.

Its absolute crazy talk, for the Bulldogs or for any other club!

For mine, the only genuinely viable new territory to populate in the short to medium term is the Gold Coast, and even it would require a lot of time, cash and patience to get a side set.

I want to be clear here that I'm not arguing for the Hounds to be sent north, but rather talking about possibilities in a general sense.
 
CyberKev said:
I'd like to see the research that supports the notion that Western Sydneyites are ready to embrace and support another team outside of the Swans.

To move another side, any side, to Sydney at this point in time would be disastrous.

Its taken over two decades and bucketloads of money just to get the Swans to be a viable concern in the Harbour City, and the downside of this for potential newcomers, is that Sydney IS the AFL for the vast majority of Sydneysiders. Try reading a Sydney-based paper and all you'll get AFL-wise is articles relating to the Swans. This may well have been necessary in allowing the code to win sufficient support in an hostile territory, but it is now exceedingly difficult to see another club getting a foot in the door now as a consequence. I also suspect that the Swans would do a Brisbane Broncos and thug any newbie local side out of the area.

Its absolute crazy talk, for the Bulldogs or for any other club!

For mine, the only genuinely viable new territory to populate in the short to medium term is the Gold Coast, and even it would require a lot of time, cash and patience to get a side set.

I want to be clear here that I'm not arguing for the Hounds to be sent north, but rather talking about possibilities in a general sense.

Well said CK. I understand what you are saying about the Gold Coast and FWIW I think it would be a better area than having another team in Sydney.

We wont be going anywhere
 
OldSchool said:
"The Western Bulldogs share the same ethos as western Sydney



How offensive is this?


Pack rape? No


Racism? No


Riots in the streets? No



Take your ethos and stick it Charlie.



This guy needs a few emails explaining a few things. Go to it;


Address Parliament House,
Macquarie Street,
Sydney NSW 2000
Phone (02) 9230 3362
Fax (02) 9230 2396
Email charlie.lynn@parliament.nsw.gov.au
 
Politicians, eh ? How to get your name in the paper. No wonder Smorgo's never heard of him. He's in the Legislative Council ! That means he doesn't have an electorate. He's one of 42 members of the Gentleman's Club who are elected to represent the whole state of NSW. You can work out how he happens to get his spot. Hint: He's a party member. Guess which party.

If you want to email him a polite message of discouragement or suggest that he encourage grass roots Australian Rules Football in the Western Suburbs of Sydney, his email address is

charlie.lynn@parliament.nsw.gov.au

(Sorry, Local, I didn't see that you'd already posted his email address when I first posted)
 
H Dolphin said:
Politicians, eh ? How to get your name in the paper. No wonder Smorgo's never heard of him. He's in the Legislative Council ! That means he doesn't have an electorate. He's one of 42 members of the Gentleman's Club who are elected to represent the whole state of NSW. You can work out how he happens to get his spot. Hint: He's a party member. Guess which party.

If you want to email him a polite message of discouragement or suggest that he encourage grass roots Australian Rules Football in the Western Suburbs of Sydney, his email address is

charlie.lynn@parliament.nsw.gov.au

(Sorry, Local, I didn't see that you'd already posted his email address when I first posted)



No problem at all Harry great minds think alike.
 
This Lynn bloke is highly intelligent, He knows a good thing when he sees it.

As for moving to Sydney, I have no objection to the western Sydney people adopting the bulldogs as their team, and if this Lynn bloke wants to promote the dogs as their team, fine go ahead...Another 20,000 members would fit in nicely, it may be viable to continue the current Sydney arrangement.

At the end of the day membership growth is what will sustain our club, casting the net a bit wider and growing support and the brand in another major city is smart business
 
Good thinking, skooshtamart. What the marketing department should do, now, is get a special promotion of the club going on the back of Lynn's comments. Perhaps a stall at a local market, a spread in a local newspaper, an advertisement on a radio station, send Darce up for a week. If you are reading this thread, Cam...
 

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Not a chance, has anyone ever been through western Sydney, don't drive too slow or your car will be stolen while you are still in it. Everyone knows that Sydney is the a**ehole of the world, well western Sydney is what comes from it. The NSW politicians should stick to what they do best, coruption, and leave the doggies out of their schemes.:cool:
 
CyberKev said:
I'd like to see the research that supports the notion that Western Sydneyites are ready to embrace and support another team outside of the Swans.

To move another side, any side, to Sydney at this point in time would be disastrous.

Its taken over two decades and bucketloads of money just to get the Swans to be a viable concern in the Harbour City, and the downside of this for potential newcomers, is that Sydney IS the AFL for the vast majority of Sydneysiders. Try reading a Sydney-based paper and all you'll get AFL-wise is articles relating to the Swans. This may well have been necessary in allowing the code to win sufficient support in an hostile territory, but it is now exceedingly difficult to see another club getting a foot in the door now as a consequence. I also suspect that the Swans would do a Brisbane Broncos and thug any newbie local side out of the area.

Its absolute crazy talk, for the Bulldogs or for any other club!

For mine, the only genuinely viable new territory to populate in the short to medium term is the Gold Coast, and even it would require a lot of time, cash and patience to get a side set.

I want to be clear here that I'm not arguing for the Hounds to be sent north, but rather talking about possibilities in a general sense.

Well said from a neutral standpoint. And a few points from a Sydney viewpoint:

1. From time to time, strange things crawl from out of the NSW Upper House eg Frd Nile. I have never heard of Mr Lynn.

2. I suggest Mr Lynn tries to get access to the Sawns memebership details - my best guess is that < 5% come from western Sydney. Swans (and AFL)
are the team for inner city/trendy/eastern suburbs/gay folk

3. Alternatively Mr Lynn can do out west what I have done in the inner west - talk to blokes in pubs about the merits of AFL. He will be called a ************ and be threatened with getting his face smashed in.

4. Mr Lynn is suggesting that the "Western Bulldogs" is simply transplanted to Sydney's west. Mr Lynn clearly does not follow NRL and has never heard of one its one most powerful clubs (both politically and $$$s) called the Canterbury Bulldogs.

5. If it ever happened, the new "Western Bulldogs" would simply not be called that, given #4.

6. And what of their home ground? Telstra Stadium with a 10,000 crowd. Campbelltown Sports Stadium?

On a personal note, I chose not to follow the ********ing Swans and Mr Lynn can go and get ********ed.
 
What a lot of garbage ...

The team has allready played there with minimal sucsess with crowds and interest.

It would not work, Sydney Swans have allready been representing NSW in footy for many years now, they have built somethin of a history and a relation to the fans through there champions Paul Kelly , Tony Lockett so on and so forth, theyve just won there first premiership, there is no other entity in Sydney in AFL that could even come close to them.

As well as that , the scumbags from West Sydney are not crying out for AFL sides, they would have little regard for traveling an hour or more through west sydney streets to the SCG to watch some mickey mouse conjured team when they allready have the swans.

And thirdly , would the AFL even entertain the idea when they are looking at $50 odd million to deal with Optus Oval and then all the extra money needed to fund such a re location???
 
He mustn't be very intelligent to suggest that the AFL would let the Bulldogs move anywhere, leaving the Western Suburbs of Melbourne (where soccer is most likely to take support from AFL) without AFL representation.

Just another pollie ranting to get a little bit of newstime.
 
Aquamarinejewel said:
Here we go again...the annual relocate the Bulldogs Articles... :rolleyes:

The good part is that they are chasing us because we could make a great contribution to their city rather than us looking for another home but they are just dreaming.

With the development of the Whitten Oval there is no way we will be moving interstate.
 
OldSchool said:
The good part is that they are chasing us because we could make a great contribution to their city rather than us looking for another home but they are just dreaming.

With the development of the Whitten Oval there is no way we will be moving interstate.

Exactly right, so two articles today...one to relocate to Sydney and the other to play games at Geelong...what do they want us to do next perhaps conduct the training sessions in Bali? :rolleyes:
 
Aquamarinejewel said:
Exactly right, so two articles today...one to relocate to Sydney and the other to play games at Geelong...what do they want us to do next perhaps conduct the training sessions in Bali? :rolleyes:

Predicition time. The Blues will want us to share their oval with them for training while work is being done at the WO.
 

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