List Mgmt. Should I stay or should I go now? End of season list management discussion (now continued for 2020)

[Gene Simmons]

We gave Jon f*n ceglar 3 years , smith averaged 20 touches this year, one of the highest for wings this season. Hasn’t lost any speed and is a great leader. Give him 3 years hawks... age doesn’t matter for him as he started late so he hasn’t got the normal miles in the legs as other 30 year olds. If ceglar who hasn’t done any where near as much as smith has done for us, can get 3 years then smith is more then deserving of 3 years.

With Jacobs retiring at GWS and Mumford getting on hopefully that raises the appeal of Ceglar and a trade can happen..

 

[Stratton24]

With Jacobs retiring at GWS and Mumford getting on hopefully that raises the appeal of Ceglar and a trade can happen..

Why would Ceglar want to move interstate when he has a two year contract?

 

[lethalselbow]

Hendo retired.

Hendo hangs up the boots

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Had a good burst at Hawthorn. Really good player that gave his all.

Good to have a call on it early. Hopefully a few more pieces fall into place with the other veterans. I want to keep Smith.

 

[Hot Diggity]

Hendo retired.

Hendo hangs up the boots

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Did the business for us and nothing but praise for the bloke.

Surely this sees Smith firming for a deal?

 

[HAWKSBESTEVA]

Why would Ceglar want to move interstate when he has a two year contract?

Chance to be the number 1 ruck, we could tell him he won’t be getting many games next year due to getting a ruck (preuss) so he would be inclined to move

 

[Gralin]

So that's four retirements so far

 

[TylerDurden]

Did the business for us and nothing but praise for the bloke.

Surely this sees Smith firming for a deal?

Augurs well for Smith.

 

[streetspirit]

 

[Adebisi]

I would be shocked if Jiath got a new deal.
Would it not be better to sign up guys like Smith on longer term deals previously? a lot more bargaining power to trade them if we want rather than lose them as FA...

 

[TheFourPillars]

I would be shocked if Jiath got a new deal.
Would it not be better to sign up guys like Smith on longer term deals previously? a lot more bargaining power to trade them if we want rather than lose them as FA...

Agree CJ done

 

[Yardie]

Agree CJ done

I think Greaves playing so well combined with CJ not working in the forward line sealed his fate.

 

[Jaeger]

Scott Burns has gone to Adelaide

 

[gianytee]

Really like the raw talent CJ had, but reality is he looked miles off the pace when he played this year. Kicking was always poor but he literally would spoil contests where we had a 2 on 1 with McEvoy there and then wouldn’t even kill the ball.

To me it just said he cannot read the game at all and was too much of a liability. I remembered Silk gave him a huge spray one game.

Morrison is so limited but is somewhat reliable while CJ you had no idea and therefore made it an easy decision for the coaches. Unfortunate as it is if he was to make it would at least be 2-3 years away and that is asking too much I feel.

 

[Lickmesocks]

Stratto 650
Hendo 400
Pop 300
Glass 120.

1.5m slashed in about 4 days.

 

[WWSD]

Stratto 650
Hendo 400
Pop 300
Glass 120.

1.5m slashed in about 4 days.

Surely Stratton wasn’t earning that much money? He would’ve been earning more money than Gunston!

 

[HAWKSBESTEVA]

Surely Stratton wasn’t earning that much money? He would’ve been earning more money than Gunston!

Crazy, must of been csuse he was captain I’m guessing.

 

[TylerDurden]

Surely Stratton wasn’t earning that much money? He would’ve been earning more money than Gunston!

Captaincy increases the pay scale yeah?

 

[kazzooka]

Stratto 650
Hendo 400
Pop 300
Glass 120.

1.5m slashed in about 4 days.

Not sure how accurate those numbers are but none of them had contracts anyway so would have gotten much less if kept.

 

[Billyc]

Can see why Stratton didn’t retire after his terrible 2019 season if that’s what he was on.

 

[Bumps"N"Grins]

It was outrageous two weeks ago.

God knows what adjective you could use now...

SHocking

 

[Mercy Seat]

So Morrison looks to be staying. That's one to cross off the list.

 

[Lickmesocks]

Not sure how accurate those numbers are but none of them had contracts anyway so would have gotten much less if kept.

Stratto skipper 550-650 range
Hendo second in crimmo medal in 2019 Signed a 1 year deal 350-450 range
Pop 1 year deal 250-320 range
Glass 100-200k range

Might be a slight discrepancy on each guesstimate on my post but overall (1.3-1.6) range would have been freed up is the point I was trying to make.

 

[HAWKSBESTEVA]

So Morrison looks to be staying. That's one to cross off the list.

Morrison better be kept as depth only, no more vanilla shocking decision makers in the best 22

 

[Nick the Pig]

Really like the raw talent CJ had, but reality is he looked miles off the pace when he played this year. Kicking was always poor but he literally would spoil contests where we had a 2 on 1 with McEvoy there and then wouldn’t even kill the ball.

To me it just said he cannot read the game at all and was too much of a liability. I remembered Silk gave him a huge spray one game.

Morrison is so limited but is somewhat reliable while CJ you had no idea and therefore made it an easy decision for the coaches. Unfortunate as it is if he was to make it would at least be 2-3 years away and that is asking too much I feel.

Agree with this re CJ. His game sense just seemed really poor and I'm not sure if that can easily be developed or taught. It may be best to cut ties now rather than persevere. The pace, athleticism and enthusiasm are all there to see but if the decision making, skill level and overall game sense are lacking then the negatives outweigh the positives.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Nash and CJ in the most trouble I would have thought.

Howe and Hanrahan next.

Expecting and hoping that Moore and Greaves will get at least a year extension.

Frawley unsure.

Smith hopefully staying.