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Should WA clubs be allowed to train in groups of 10?
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RichLeMonde
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Can you explain to me how the disadvantage of travelling by plane to play can logically be more significant than the advantage of having an opponent travel by plane to play you?
Unless your are assuming - without yet having spelt out - that there is a cumulative effect of travel that is significant, i.e. that flying 6 weeks in a row is significantly more disadvantageous than playing 6 different opponents in a row, each of which has flown, but who haven't had to make multiple consecutive weeks of plane travel? If so, that is an assumption, rather than a given, and should be made clear.
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We should set up camp in the NT. Warmer weather suits us and the NT government has promised crowds.
Getting to Tassie is not difficult for Perth teams. They get direct flights, it's about the same travel time overall as going to Melbourne and quicker than going to Sydney or Brisbane.
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It's not about the balance within a single fixture.
There is a cumulative effect of repeated travel in a short space of time that takes a toll.
Huh?
You're right, I didn't use the exact phrase "cumulative effect" until this post.
But that's the point I've been making i.e. "for WC, the travel means there are additional cons attached to 5 road games in 6 weeks that aren't acceptably balanced out by the extra home games later on".
I also said "the away block would be more onerous for WC because they'd be flying every time, so therefore less workable".
Perhaps I should have said "disproportionately more" but I thought the point was clear.
Too much flying time for WC to do an away block like that.
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But But But......Travel is irrelevant according to Victorians
There was a premiership in there you realise, right?
RichLeMonde
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No it wasn't clear to me. You have also been saying that plane travel (WC) versus less plane travel (Richmond) meant that the higher risk higher reward scenario for WC was inherently problematic. But I think you have been combining that point with the point that cumulative plane travel is also a unique problem, which is slightly separate to the issue that plane travel generally creates higher risk, higher reward. They're both part of the same argument for you, but for me they needed to be teased apart so I could understand exactly what you found unfair.
Well, we've made some progress in clarifying with great specificity exactly where we stand on this issue! Time spent on BF is never time wasted
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I take you at your word but that's been my point.
Yes, because of the cumulative effect of all that travel. It's an additional negative to be weighed.
This is a fundamental difference between how that fixture would affect Richmond and WC. It's why I reject the comparison. There would be an additional toll on WC given all that travel.
I could consider 3 away games in a row, depending on the location. But 6 in 7 weeks would be too much flying time.
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This is hilarious.
Travel, unfortunately, is only recognised by players, as acknowledged by the majority of AFL players, but not by oppo supporters. There was a comprehensive debate on one of the talk shows and stated by Dermie that "He does not know how WC and Freo do it" .
And choked v a geriatric Cats in semi finals
West Coast weren't simply good enough in 2019
Why not?
Does the decision on location entirely rest with the club or will the AFL have "expectations "?
Boxhead007
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Travel is an excuse.
Players know when they sign to play at a club outside of Victoria they are going to have to travel an x amount of times per year. They also know that to win the flag they have to win it at the MCG. They are not forced into playing at the Eagles or anywhere else. It’s their choice. The MCG contract whether you like or not is not new. Players clubs and supporters are well aware of it when they sign on to be apart of it.
After the compulsory draft years they’re not forced to stay on those states they do it by choice, then have the hide to whinge.
Players know when they sign to play at a club outside of Victoria they are going to have to travel an x amount of times per year. They also know that to win the flag they have to win it at the MCG. They are not forced into playing at the Eagles or anywhere else. It’s their choice. The MCG contract whether you like or not is not new. Players clubs and supporters are well aware of it when they sign on to be apart of it.
After the compulsory draft years they’re not forced to stay on those states they do it by choice, then have the hide to whinge.
Do you complain about "home sick" players?
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which part of fact is hilarious ?
Boxhead007
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Whats that got to do with what I said. It’s a choice and the players are well aware of what the consequences of that choice are.
And here is the most uneducated post in this thread.
Boxhead007
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How’s it uneducated. It’s fact
Only in your mind buddy.
Boxhead007
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Hahaha you sign with West Coast full well knowing that your going to have to travel. What’s incorrect about that statement. Or is the truth inconvenient
Just got back from a bike ride and my mind wandered to this question. I am not sure how it can be fair or unfair in a comp run for entertainment (in the words of AFL officials). it isnt a rigorous sporting comp. It even makes up its own rules to sui TV.
In the context of my life during my ride - there were people paddling, swimming, sailing taking coffee in parks and on the grass. I wondered about swimming but the council had put up plenty of signs - you are allowed to swim and go.There were plenty walking and if groups met they observed the 1.5m. Families were it park benches etc. I I got to the golf course there would be the usual players. When we ride as a group instead of sitting at a cafe table to drink our coffee we sit on the grass. Big change.
In the context of life it is just dumb to say to professional footballers - ignore the AIS guidelines and only train in pairs.
In the context of my life during my ride - there were people paddling, swimming, sailing taking coffee in parks and on the grass. I wondered about swimming but the council had put up plenty of signs - you are allowed to swim and go.There were plenty walking and if groups met they observed the 1.5m. Families were it park benches etc. I I got to the golf course there would be the usual players. When we ride as a group instead of sitting at a cafe table to drink our coffee we sit on the grass. Big change.
In the context of life it is just dumb to say to professional footballers - ignore the AIS guidelines and only train in pairs.
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Are you joking? There are no direct Perth - Launceston flights. There is a stop over in Melbourne, hang at the airport for a couple of hours after your 3.5hr flight, then head back the next day.
If they get a chartered flight, it's 4.5 hrs to Hobart for example...it's kinda the same...as when Carlton head to Adelaide, but that's only a big deal if you are a Vic club who has to travel.
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*check supported club* - yep, another Richmond fan
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