Injury SJOGHCIU - Offseason Edition

[ziad]

Yep, its downright uncanny how often one particular sort of player ends up a successful coach

Sheedy 180cm/hard nosed defendee

Malthouse 180cm/hard nosed defender

Worsfold 180cm/hard nosed defender

Chris Scott/Brad Scott 183cm hard nosed defender.

Clarkson 177cm/hard nosed half forward/utility

Lyon 183cm/hard nosed half forward

Being a hard man, not hugely athletically gifted but with a reputation for toughness smarts and professionalism seems to be the standard pathway to AFL coaching success.

Its interesting to consider why that is- i guess as a starting point toughness and a fearless approach to playing football = respect and attention from players and a willingness to be ruthless as a coach. Defenders tend to see the game better because they have to to play their role well. And if you've built a successful playing career based on hard work and getting the most out of yourself you're more likely to be able to impart similar good habits into players.

Or maybe everyone over 190cm just has less oxygen available to their brain.

I suspect those that have to struggle a bit learn about the game and what is required more so than those who can rely on pure ability.

 

[Altum Volantes]

I doubt we see Nic before the bye.

Good luck Bailey.

I’d be drafting a mature ruck mid season for coverage (Jack Williams to LTI?)

Yeo was always 2-3 so no surprises there…yet…

 

[Keys]

So my guess at what todays list will look like when’s it’s released

Yeo (Calf) - Test
Naitanui (Achilles) - TBC
J Williams (Spleen) - TBC
Rotham (Arm) - 1 week
Burgiel (Hamstring) - 2-3 weeks
Culley (Shoulder) - TBC

Jamieson injured his ankle during the WAFL game but I’ve not seen it mentioned anywhere so I’m guessing they’ll ignore it and leave him off the list for now

 

[LittleFires]

Nic Nat still two weeks away as Yeo set to miss Derby

West Coast are set to be without star ruckman Nic Naitanui until at least round five as his Achilles injury continues to derail the start of his season.

thewest.com.au

This article says Simmo is hoping for Jamieson to be available this week which sounds promising.

If I remember correctly Jack Williams was meant to have an important scan yesterday which would determine a return to play path for him, so hopefully we get some clarity on that today.

 

[Keys]

Nic Nat still two weeks away as Yeo set to miss Derby

West Coast are set to be without star ruckman Nic Naitanui until at least round five as his Achilles injury continues to derail the start of his season.

thewest.com.au

This article says Simmo is hoping for Jamieson to be available this week which sounds promising.

If I remember correctly Jack Williams was meant to have an important scan yesterday which would determine a return to play path for him, so hopefully we get some clarity on that today.

Also from that article Foley has been suspended for a week

Meanwhile, West Coast defender Luke Foley has been suspended for one week after being found guilty of striking East Perth’s Ethan Regan in a pre-season game on Saturday.

The incident was graded as Intentional conduct, medium impact and body contact, with Foley’s two-game ban being downgraded to just one with an early guilty plea.

 

[WCErevival]

I dont think Nic should retire but I think he should be demoted to depth. Bailey can be primary ruck now and Nic can play later on if we need him due to injuries.

 

[Free Agent]

I dont think Nic should retire but I think he should be demoted to depth. Bailey can be primary ruck now and Nic can play later on if we need him due to injuries.

This post takes the cake.

Yeah we going to sit out Nic Nat for B Williams.

No way in hell is that happening until B Williams starts actually producing and can prove he can win ruck taps and start beating some opponents. Right now his every rucks whipping boy.

Nic Nat comes straight back in once his fit.

 

[WCErevival]

This post takes the cake.

Yeah we going to sit out Nic Nat for B Williams.

No way in hell is that happening until B Williams starts actually producing and can prove he can win ruck taps and start beating some opponents. Right now his every rucks whipping boy.

Nic Nat comes straight back in once his fit.

Nics obviously better but going forward, he isn't going to be part of our future. Lets say he gets fit and plays the second half of the year, is there any point to that? We're not playing for a premiership this year. Its similar to what Clarkson did with Goldstein in round 1.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

No way in hell is that happening until B Williams starts actually producing and can prove he can win ruck taps and start beating some opponents. Right now his every rucks whipping boy.

Reading some real unfair assessments of Bailey after the GWS game.

His linking up with Kelly in the first quarter on the weekend was the best ruck-mid combo I've seen from the games I've watched this year.

Really set us up for a strong performance. Keep it up, BBW.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

His linking up with Kelly in the first quarter on the weekend was the best ruck-mid combo I've seen from the games I've watched this year.

Nothing beats Darling's thump to Cripps at full pace to impossible goal from the pocket though.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Also from that article Foley has been suspended for a week

Odd - wasn't Regan around the club as an Academy player? Guess Foley didn't like him much.

 

[Truckosaurus]

Reading some real unfair assessments of Bailey after the GWS game.

His linking up with Kelly in the first quarter on the weekend was the best ruck-mid combo I've seen from the games I've watched this year.

Really set us up for a strong performance. Keep it up, BBW.

He also dropped two marks after getting both hands to it, including one in defence with no pressure on him from the opposition (and McGovern standing right behind him) - those sorts of things tend to stick in the mind more easily than a ruck tap, particularly when it's a known issue he has.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Odd - wasn't Regan around the club as an Academy player? Guess Foley didn't like him much.

Also played two Beagles games late last year but Foley was in the AFL side at the time.

 

[Keys]

Odd - wasn't Regan around the club as an Academy player? Guess Foley didn't like him much.

For a practice match it actually got quite willing at times. During either the 2nd or 3rd quarter (forget which) there was a lot of niggle in the game with several spot fires flaring up

 

[Wild Kelly]

Nothing beats Darling's thump to Cripps at full pace to impossible goal from the pocket though.

That was great but also about the only time he competed in the ruck and won. He was outbodied most of the time.

 

[Hook461123]

TBC's All round. Our dr's must have trouble diagnosing return periods.

Culley calf not shoulder hmmm

 

[Keys]

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TBC's All round. Our dr's must have trouble diagnosing return periods.

Culley calf not shoulder hmmm

Where’s that from?

It isn’t the official WCE one - looks like a journo with bad guessing skills

 

[Cursedsword02]

Where’s that from?

It isn’t the official WCE one - looks like a journo with bad guessing skills

Looks like it's straight from the AFL's site. So not really that different from what you said.

 

[Hook461123]

Where’s that from?

It isn’t the official WCE one - looks like a journo with bad guessing skills

Afl website

Medical room: The full AFL injury list, R3

Who's struggling, who's a test, check out the players from your list who are a little sore

www.afl.com.au

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Official one will be out shortly but I don’t know if it’ll be much different tbh

 

[Keys]

Official one will be out shortly but I don’t know if it’ll be much different tbh

Well if they list Culley with a calf injury they should be fired

And there should be a time frame n Burgiel’s hamstring

 

[Hook461123]

Official one will be out shortly but I don’t know if it’ll be much different tbh

I would've thought we would submit our official one to the AFL to compile the injury list for the clubs?
Otherwise what is the updated 28th March for?

 

[Seadog]

He also dropped two marks after getting both hands to it, including one in defence with no pressure on him from the opposition (and McGovern standing right behind him) - those sorts of things tend to stick in the mind more easily than a ruck tap, particularly when it's a known issue he has.

At least he got 2 hands to them, improvement on last week, I'd say he was told to get both hands up last week at training, baby steps. His 1st qtr combining with Kelly was pretty good.

 

[amazingjoshy]

I doubt we see Nic before the bye.

Good luck Bailey.

I’d be drafting a mature ruck mid season for coverage (Jack Williams to LTI?)

Yeo was always 2-3 so no surprises there…yet…

Can't see any point to this, unless in some bizarre world we're actually sitting in finals contention

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

I would've thought we would submit our official one to the AFL to compile the injury list for the clubs?
Otherwise what is the updated 28th March for?

For AFL media to pump out some content.

They just compile what they know when they feel like putting an article out, I don’t think there’s any obligation on the clubs to submit them something to put in there (like there is with the teams on Thursday night, for example)