So realistically.... Who can slide to pick 28?

[OffseasonPie]

They have kids on a list in order of preference and cross them off when they get selected. Pretty straight forward really. Assumedly, guys like McCluggage, etc. will be on the list and higher than Brennan Cox. If someone high on our list slides all the way to pick 28, we'll nab him.

This is exactly right and I reckon needs go higher on the list but that doesn't mean they're the only ones on the list

 

[sr36]

This is exactly right and I reckon needs go higher on the list but that doesn't mean they're the only ones on the list

Assumedly needs are factored in. Eg. our list is based on who is most likely to add the most to our team. At the top our list, you'd assume that we'd have the guys most likely to be stars, regardless of position. But as we move down the list and picks become more speculative, we'd pick the speculative guy that meets a need and is thus more likely to become a senior footballer for us above the speculative guy that plays a position where we are well covered and thus will find it difficult to break into the side.

 

[BPikkers]

Many want us to take a key back however when I read about the player I here the words "negator".

Not sure I want to spend our only real live pick in the draft on this type of player.

I'd rather add another small who can kick and make good decisions.

We will have a first rounder next season and can address our KPP issues then.

Why not? That's exactly what we need.
Prestia was a very high pick and was a superb player for us. Totally reliable. In more recent years, Adelaide chose Talia with a very high pick. I'd love to have Talia at the Pies.

 

[Matt_352]

Brennan Cox or Ridley or Maibaum at 28 then Brown and Daicos then Mitch McCarthy then that is a massive win.

 

[wednesdaywarrior]

Oh man. I hate waiting for the draft. Seems to take an eternity every year!

 

[wednesdaywarrior]

Brennan Cox or Ridley or Maibaum at 28 then Brown and Daicos then Mitch McCarthy then that is a massive win.

I'd be very happy to get a genuine talent rated by Hine and also Browny with a later pick. I think Brown will one of those guys who ends up better than his draft position - essentially undervalued because he's sub 180. Be great if we nabbed him with a later pick and then he grew 3-4 cm and became a star. I can dream!

 

[Prochard123]

Patrick kerr(194 cm, 93kg) seems to have the right tools (Size, performance, athleticism) to be a very decent key forward. Would be more like your Taylor Walker, Drew Petrie type KPF who relatively contributes more up the ground, but obviously it is hard to see him reach that kind of performance. he could potentially become a superior version of Jesse White. Maybe 10 possession 5 marks 2 goals a game forward, for a total of around 40 goals a year would be his peak at this stage of observation.

Also probably projected around the early 2nd-mid 2nd round range, so he's not a reach like Brennan Cox.
Ideally we'd get someone like Logue but obviously he will be gone before our pick. Otherwise I'd have Kerr ahead of Clarke/Scharenberg/Drew then Cox.

 

[JOELY]

Also probably projected around the early 2nd-mid 2nd round range, so he's not a reach like Brennan Cox.

Why do you say that? Cal Twomey has him in his top 30 and that list is based on talking to recruiters

 

[Apex36]

Why do you say that? Cal Twomey has him in his top 30 and that list is based on talking to recruiters

Just about every phantom I've seen has Cox around that mark. This is the second time I've seen someone post that he'd be a reach at that point (might be the same poster) and I've been baffled by the statement both times.

 

[CarnMags]

Question.. based on the draft point system, and discounts etc - is there a tangible number that Brown has to slide to (without a nomination) in order for us to avoid using pick 28 on him?

Example: if he's nominated at 21, we can avoid using 28 on him, due to our discount of points.. or something along those lines..

 

[Crazy Tails]

Question.. based on the draft point system, and discounts etc - is there a tangible number that Brown has to slide to (without a nomination) in order for us to avoid using pick 28 on him?

Example: if he's nominated at 21, we can avoid using 28 on him, due to our discount of points.. or something along those lines..

If someone bids 21 and we want him we have to use our next pick (28).

So we lose pick 28 and move up to 21. The difference in points if we overpay goes towards another pick later in the draft.


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[Apex36]

Question.. based on the draft point system, and discounts etc - is there a tangible number that Brown has to slide to (without a nomination) in order for us to avoid using pick 28 on him?

Example: if he's nominated at 21, we can avoid using 28 on him, due to our discount of points.. or something along those lines..

29. You have to use the next available pick after they're bid on.

 

[CarnMags]

If someone bids 21 and we want him we have to use our next pick (28).

So we lose pick 28 and move up to 21. The difference in points if we overpay goes towards another pick later in the draft.

Ah I see. Thanks for clarifying the overpay. This is what was confusing me, when it came to discounts etc.

Gut feel says Brown will get nominated somewhere between 20-27. I don't think it will be done out of spite, i just think that's his range.

 

[Apex36]

Ah I see. Thanks for clarifying the overpay. This is what was confusing me, when it came to discounts etc.

Gut feel says Brown will get nominated somewhere between 20-27. I don't think it will be done out of spite, i just think that's his range.

It's not. Caleb Daniel might have shifted attitudes, but at the end of the day Brown is still undersized and there will be much more desirable players available at that point. His range is 35 onward imo.

 

[CarnMags]

It's not. Caleb Daniel might have shifted attitudes, but at the end of the day Brown is still undersized and there will be much more desirable players available at that point. His range is 35 onward imo.

I hope your right.

If he gets nominated prior to our 28, you can believe it's other clubs forcing our hand, happy to take the risk in case we baulk at matching it; whilst I will believe a club simply likes what they see in terms of his ability, upside and growth opportunity.

For what it's worth, I'm not that worried by height and weight when it comes to a draftees value post pick 20. The CD situation has no impact on my thoughts.

 

[Prochard123]

Why do you say that? Cal Twomey has him in his top 30 and that list is based on talking to recruiters

From my observations his current situation mimics James Stewart in his draft year. Late season bolter who rises up in the ranks mainly due to the extreme lack of supply of key position players in the draft. In contrast to 2012, a somewhat similar draft in terms of pool structure/composition, lacking in B/B+ talents who are just one grade below Moore/Daniher/Boyd, the 2016 draft lacks BOTH Elite talent and your mid range key position players. This drastically pushes up mediocre key position talents into the calculation.

It's like going to a jewellery store. If the jewellery cabinet is filled with all sorts of diamonds then it will be hard to identify that one sapphire sitting on the edge. However, if there're only a few stones available and the same sapphire is located in a prime position, then it will appear to be more valuable than it actually is.

Every year the number of key position players drafted in the top 20, top 30, or top 50 will remain somewhat similar, but that doesn't mean the quality of players selected are anywhere close.

 

[Rorzza]

Dekka will know exactly what the two boys are worth to the club. Both will be in black and white next year, no doubt.

I am sitting on the fence regarding pick 28 not fussed if we go tall or small, I just want the best player.

I watched the replay of the under 17 game on grand final day, wow some big kids in amongst that lot. I know there is alot of talk about FA next year but I don't see us letting go of our first round draft pick. This means trading players if we are going to be involved in FA, which brings us full circle again, pick best available player at 28 IMO. If we have a surplus of young gun mids so be it, trade a few out for a needs basis. What does a balanced list mean, pick players based on physical attributes rather than potential, no thanks.

I don’t really see any quality talls being available at pick 28. I doubt Battle or Rotham will slide that far. It could well be another speculative pick by Dekka and the team similar to Sier.

I don't think anyone will be disappointed if we nab either or Powell-Pepper, Scharenberg or Cox at pick 28.

Look forward to it!

 

[THATSGOLD]

Sounds like we are getting Brennan Cox Brown then Dacios.

 

[Snoop Dog]

Griffin Logue if players like Battle, Marshall, Powell-Pepper have all been selected -obviously highly likely, however Tim Membrey slid to a pick in the mid 40's in his draft year and was rated much higher than that pre draft. I was shocked that Collingwood didn't select him with pick 38 that year.

Griffin Logue:

- KPD
- 193cm, 92kg
- Composed and comfortable with ball in hand
- Reads the ball early in flight
- Quality endurance
- Competed well in the WAFL against senior bodies
- Rowing background so possesses a relatively mature body

Notable Draft Combine results:

- Beep test: Equal 1st (15.1)
- Repeat sprint (six x 30m sprint): 7th overall (25.09)
- Standing vertical jump: 4th overall (71cm)
- Vertical jump right foot: 1st (91cm)
- 3km time trial: 5th overall (9.58)

Long gone by our pick

 

[Snoop Dog]

Sounds like we are getting Brennan Cox Brown then Dacios.

Done

 

[THATSGOLD]

Done

Happy with that providing Brennan Cox becomes a decent player.

 

[Rorzza]

Powell-Pepper thingy on AFL.com.au. I Don't think he will slide to us but what a ripper!

 

[Soups]

Powell-Pepper thingy on AFL.com.au. I Don't think he will slide to us but what a ripper!

He's a beast. If he had improved his kicking he would be easy top 10.

 

[bucksisbest]

It's not. Caleb Daniel might have shifted attitudes, but at the end of the day Brown is still undersized and there will be much more desirable players available at that point. His range is 35 onward imo.

Brown's listed at 177 that's not Caleb Daniel territory, it's also bigger than mids like Prestia,Jack and Neale. I agree he is undersized, but not convinced it'll push him too far back. Crossing my fingers that he goes past 28

 

[Aishole]

From what i've seen (not much) Maibaum looks a better prospect then Cox.
Any one with a bit of knowledge wanna let me know a bit more about maibaum and what range he is looking like going?