Prediction St.Kilda Best 22

[thekizzler]

Nankervis can run, mark, jump, is dangerous forward and aggressive.

Wot?

Have you ever watched Nankervis before?

The bloke kicked two goals this season. From eight scores. One score every three games roughly - watch out.

In his career he has kicked 39 goals in 157 games. Has double figures once. 11 goals in 2017.

Sorry for calling you out again but you legit just make stuff up sometimes.

The real answer is that he has rarely played up forward through his career. When not rucking, he rests on the bench or behind the ball intercepting.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Always interesting watching the recruits, particularly the draftees…gives us a glimpse into the future

Seems like the mold is cast for the future with an elite running mosquito fleet of mids and Pou shaping as the blue chip unit.
The concern for me is that its a work rate based plan and still lacks the ball winning grunt or real class. It puts us into 100% reliance on FA's to cap it off and leaves us open to physically dominate sides like Brizzy.
The draft is gonna be screwed now for at least the next 3-4 years so this roughly the end of the "rebuild" phase.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Wot?

Have you ever watched Nankervis before?

The bloke kicked two goals this season. From eight scores. One score every three games roughly - watch out.

In his career he has kicked 39 goals in 157 games. Has double figures once. 11 goals in 2017.

Sorry for calling you out again but you legit just make stuff up sometimes.

The real answer is that he has rarely played up forward through his career. When not rucking, he rests on the bench or behind the ball intercepting.

It's the wild optimism time of year dude. The time where we set ourselves up for disappointment in the early rounds. Don't fight it.

 

[Holy Hunter Clark]

B. WILKIE CAMINITi  TRAVELLIA

H.B. HASTIE SCHOENMAKER NWM

C. WILSON STEELE HENRY

H.F. GARCIA MARSHALL BUTLER

F. SHARMAN KING HIGGINS

FOLL. HEATH PHILLIPOU SINCLAIR

I/C. JONES, OWENS, WINDHAGER, WOOD, MACRAE-SUB.

EMERG. BOYD, BYRNES, CLARK, HOWARD.

Thank god we didn't trade away our future first

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[Dard Ball Get]

Thank god we didn't trade away our future first

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Why? Have you been time travelliang??

 

[Holy Hunter Clark]

Why? Have you been time travelliang??

It was a hastie decision

 

[akaifu]

It's the wild optimism time of year dude. The time where we set ourselves up for disappointment in the early rounds. Don't fight it.

Its not really optimism when he's roasting the shit out of someone who hasn't even played an AFL game yet, based off one half of SANFL viewing

 

[SteeleSaints]

Seems like the mold is cast for the future with an elite running mosquito fleet of mids and Pou shaping as the blue chip unit.
The concern for me is that its a work rate based plan and still lacks the ball winning grunt or real class. It puts us into 100% reliance on FA's to cap it off and leaves us open to physically dominate sides like Brizzy.
The draft is gonna be screwed now for at least the next 3-4 years so this roughly the end of the "rebuild" phase.

There has been a significant list turnover in the past 3 years and it will take a little time for these kids to start matching it with the best. I think the biggest change/improvement in Lyon mkII is his awareness of the beneift of giving opportunity to the young players and developing the entire list. Hopefully at some stage we can find/attract/develop the elite midfielders we crave.

The Brisbane/Collingwood/Geelongs have the big mature bodies as they are older lists. Their core players have played a lot of footy together and they have the benefit of softening the introduction to their younger players. We dont quite have the same number of core players and it puts more pressure on those we do have and the kids playing around them.

The draft will be compromised leading into the future, but there will still be players to be had if we are smart. I think trading in identified players to fill list needs will also be high on priorities.

 

[saintmike65]

Seems like the mold is cast for the future with an elite running mosquito fleet of mids and Pou shaping as the blue chip unit.
The concern for me is that its a work rate based plan and still lacks the ball winning grunt or real class. It puts us into 100% reliance on FA's to cap it off and leaves us open to physically dominate sides like Brizzy.
The draft is gonna be screwed now for at least the next 3-4 years so this roughly the end of the "rebuild" phase.

We’ve drafted about 17 kids in 3 years, hopefully we’ve got a few gems amongst them..

 

[saintmike65]

Wot?

Have you ever watched Nankervis before?

The bloke kicked two goals this season. From eight scores. One score every three games roughly - watch out.

In his career he has kicked 39 goals in 157 games. Has double figures once. 11 goals in 2017.

Sorry for calling you out again but you legit just make stuff up sometimes.

The real answer is that he has rarely played up forward through his career. When not rucking, he rests on the bench or behind the ball intercepting.

He’s been a great warrior for Richmond for many years..just ask any Richmond supporter of modest footy intelligence what they think of Nank

 

[Saints43]

I’m certainly not a Howard fan however I do acknowledge he’s a necessary evil in our side..at the moment!

Can I ask why? He rarely gets many goals kicked on him and seems to have had his game simplified more in recent seasons which I reckon has helped as well.
He's got goodish size and pace and competes every time.

 

[SG34]

…
The concern for me is that its a work rate based plan and still lacks the ball winning grunt or real class. It puts us into 100% reliance on FA's …..

Mnn
So that is why I think they are going for a numbers approach.
We have a lot of players who would be fringe at other clubs, but we will rotate them through. Also, although a smaller group of players with class would be desirable so that the list spaces are freed up, we just have to go with this approach. One benefit is that injury will not decimate the plan- with so many we can carry an injury or two. Ultimately, it will be trimmed down, but until then, FA may be needed.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

He’s been a great warrior for Richmond for many years..just ask any Richmond supporter of modest footy intelligence what they think of Nank

Not as a forward.

 

[thekizzler]

He’s been a great warrior for Richmond for many years..just ask any Richmond supporter of modest footy intelligence what they think of Nank

No arguments here about any of that. Great premiership ruckman.

Not a forwards a**hole though.

 

[Kildonan]

Oldies team (over 24 years) matches played by each (2024/career)


Wilke (23/132) Howard (15/135) Webster (15/165)

Stocker (16/68) Cordy (8/141) Sinclair (22/188)



Wood (18/135) Steele (23/182) Hill (22/256)

Marshall (23/134) Macrae (19/249) Clark (11/98)



Butler (16/146) Sharman (18/50) Dow (10/83)

Higgins (20/123) King (12/84) Jones (13/150)



Boyd (0/0)

 

[Kildonan]

Youngies team (under 24 years) matches played by each (2024/career)


Hastie (5/5) Barrat (0/0) Schoenmaker (4/4)

Travaglia (0/0) Caminiti (15/34) Wanganeen-Milera (22/64)



Carroll (15/21) Windhager (15/52) Wilson (23/23)

Heath (0/0) Phillipou (13/38) Garcia (9/9)



Owens (23/54) Tauru (0/0) Henry (12/55)

Collard (3/3) Keeler (0/0) Byrnes (15/64)



McLennan (2/2) Dodson (0/0) Boxshall (0/0) Hall (0/0) O'Connell (0/0) Said (0/0)

 

[saintmike65]

Can I ask why? He rarely gets many goals kicked on him and seems to have had his game simplified more in recent seasons which I reckon has helped as well.
He's got goodish size and pace and competes every time.

Why…2 things 1. struggles in one on one contests due to lack of body strength…also has hard hands, even with simple marks & tends to double grab
2. Brain fades (that has improved though)!
Has his fans no doubt but we’ll be better if he can be replaced with a better option

 

[g_TRAIN]

Why…2 things 1. struggles in one on one contests due to lack of body strength…also has hard hands, even with simple marks & tends to double grab
2. Brain fades (that has improved though)!
Has his fans no doubt but we’ll be better if he can be replaced with a better option

Yep agree on the hard hands thing.

He gets into great positions to intercept mark but either a) doesn't go for it because he knows he's likely to spill it or b) goes for it and spills it. Its why he often excels in the spoils stat because he is in good defensive / intercept positions.

Would be a really good defender if he had naturally good hands.

 

[joydivision22]

Tauru best as intercepting third defender vs CHF

Reckon we’ve got about years of heated debate coming fast

 

[L_W_P]

Webster - Wilkie - Barrat
Sinclair - Howard - NWM
Wilson - Steele - Wood
Henry - King - Hill
Higgins - Marshall - Sharman
Boyd - Macrae - Phillipou
Owens - Windhager - Garcia - Byrnes
(Clark/Dow/Jones/Stocker/Carroll)

Get the feeling RTB really wants to implement this two ruck strategy and, with all reports that Boyd is performing well so far, I expect we sign that ready to go ruck and play him round 1.

How long it lasts, I can't say. Gut feel though is we probably give it a month at least to see how the team settles and structures up with RoMa playing forward more.

We know that Ross also wants to pump games into the kids where he can.

Tauru is going to be a while and I can't force a spot for Travaglia or Boxshall just yet so Barrat is my choice.

He or Arie will probably get first crack at Battles spot and I just think that Barrat is a better fit. I'd much prefer Arie on a wing, driving the ball inside 50, vs being anchored in the D50 as a 3rd tall.

This prediction will probably change a dozen more times in the next 3 months but that's what is so cool about this list build: The versatility and options we have to move players around in order to field a team is so good.

Do you want Hill at HF, Wing or HB? Sinclair in the middle? Wood playing CHF? One ruck or two? Who plays out of the goal square?

It's plug and play however you see fit.

We could legitimately have say 16 'locks' and move them around to fit in different set ups depending on who we play.

Pies have no decent KPDs - King, Sharman & Hammer all forward.

Port playing a smaller forward line - Doogs out, another runner in, Wood/Sharman help out in defence.

It's the antithesis of the old Ross where the best 22 was very much set and if you weren't in it you moved on.

 

[SaintKing23]

My second attempt at the best 22/3,

I can't remember what exactly by first attempt was. Things ca change fast and I believe we are growing in the depth department.

We all know we have a lot of players who can play multiple roles, whether it be defender/fwd. defender/mid or mid/fwd.


Some matches, our line up might depend who we are playing and the conditions.

Assuming all are fit, this is my team.


Webster Howard Barrat

Nas Wilkie Sincs

Wilson Steele Wood

Henry King Hill

Higgins Sharman Butler


Marshall Macrae Pou

bench: Windhager, Clark, Garcia, Travaglia and Owens

 

[Anythings_sipposible]

Looking forward to seeing Toby Travalia, Alex Tuaru, James Barrett and Hugh Boxall. Amon Armstrong pairs nicely with O’Connelly. Jack Carol and Jack McRae are nice additions.

Makes for a strong best 22.

All are definitely in Saint Kyldas' Best Twentie Too

 

[L_W_P]

Tauru best as intercepting third defender vs CHF

Reckon we’ve got about years of heated debate coming fast

Assuming he can play both at a high level: CHF has to be the answer.

Arie, Barrat and possibly Keeler could all take a shot at the interceptor role. If Hammer takes over FB then we could see Howard giving it a go.

Dogs was really great at CHB when he had Snake behind him so I'm hopeful he can recapture that energy if Hammer is there with Wilkie.

If none work then there is more chance of finding an option in the draft or with a trade than there is in finding a CHF.

Tauru and Sharman taking speccies on people's heads inside 50 is what I want to see.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

My second attempt at the best 22/3,

I can't remember what exactly by first attempt was. Things ca change fast and I believe we are growing in the depth department.

We all know we have a lot of players who can play multiple roles, whether it be defender/fwd. defender/mid or mid/fwd.


Some matches, our line up might depend who we are playing and the conditions.

Assuming all are fit, this is my team.


Webster Howard Barrat

Nas Wilkie Sincs

Wilson Steele Wood

Henry King Hill

Higgins Sharman Butler


Marshall Macrae Pou

bench: Windhager, Clark, Garcia, Travaglia and Owens

Forward line, one player too small.

 

[saintmike65]

Forward line, one player too small.

Swap Owens for Butler!