St Kilda Player burns Dwarf!

[JeffDunne]

Right... Saints supporter responds to community anger about setting someone on fire without their consent, by pigeon-holing it as faux outrage. Clearly even pseudo-intellectuals will defend their footy team's behaviour under any circumstances whatsoever.

Defending?

No I'm laughing at it . . . and treating the story with the contempt it deserves.

Australian football supporters would appear to be some of the most gullible and easily manipulated people on the planet.

 

[Kynge of Begrem]

Can you imagine the players sitting around planning a mad Monday celebration? "Hey I got a great idea lets get a dwarf, nothing could possibly go wrong!!"

I really think the afl needs to employ a 'go to' person. When clubs get great ideas they could ask them if they could see any potential problems with their ideas.

 

[Blues_Man]

Dwarf is the 'acceptable' term for someone who has dwarfism or Achondroplasia if you need to make a reference to their genetic condition, however, I agree people do not need to be labelled by their size or genetic disposition.

I think they prefer the term Little People

 

[JeffDunne]

I think they prefer the term Little People

Yeah . . . it's why they promote themselves as "Dwarf My Party".

I wouldn't be climbing that soapbox with this group.

 

[DangerSloane]

I am willing to bet everything I own that the "guy" who set the dwarf on fire was a bully in High School.

Sounds like you were a victim.
They were setting each others costumes on fire for a laugh and went too far by doing it to an unwilling participant and paid performer, who has every right to be ropable about the incident. Putting it in perspective though, stupid and degrading but hardly worthy of any great punishment.

 

[DangerSloane]

if he can name the player, those will probably be serious charges.

Not really, apparently very little to no physical damage to the person.
Could sue for damages, but doubt he would get too much.

 

[frednirk]

Essendon ..you ain't got nothing on our ability to create headlines.

 

[Underdog]

I will stick up for my club and my players until the facts of their total guilt in this case are 100% proven. Because that is what a supporter does.

No it's not. Blind faith is not useful to anybody except spin doctors.

 

[Badesumofu]

Not really, apparently very little to no physical damage to the person.
Could sue for damages, but doubt he would get too much.

Could still be criminal charges. Setting someone on fire is assault at the very least.

 

[Blues_Man]

Yeah . . . it's why they promote themselves as "Dwarf My Party".

I wouldn't be climbing that soapbox with this group.

Yeah bugger them, If they have a name like that then they deserve to be burnt .

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Surely Demetriou was just laughing at the absurdity of the situation. I mean, some things are horrendous but you don't necessarily believe them right off the bat. A football player set fire to a dwarf ...? All sorts of visuals would come into your head before you tried to reconcile this as being an actual event with an actual person with feelings involved. Have you ever had a reactive laugh to something that one part of your brain was telling you should not be funny?

 

[Oneiros]

Surely Demetriou was just laughing at the absurdity of the situation. I mean, some things are horrendous but you don't necessarily believe them right off the bat. A football player set fire to a dwarf ...? All sorts of visuals would come into your head before you tried to reconcile this as being an actual event with an actual person with feelings involved. Have you ever had a reactive laugh to something that one part of your brain was telling you should not be funny?

I don't think we've encountered something like this since the good ol' day's of Caligula's shindigs in Rome.

 

[Scotland]

So much WTF in this story.

 

[DirtyMuso]

St Kilda just can't get away from it, can they?

 

[DangerSloane]

Could still be criminal charges. Setting someone on fire is assault at the very least.

Yeah I get that, but slap on the wrist and on you go.
The fact is the punishment will fit the impact on the victim. Considering he wasnt even burnt, and uninjured, you'd think a suspended sentence and a fine or something would suffice.
Idiot move, but hardly worth an inquest.

 

[DangerSloane]

I did also add learning social skills. Education is only part of it, socialisation is clearly a more important skill in life.

The funny thing is though the professional footballers have so many events/functions that they should have these social skills. ITs the fact that they got drunk and let their hair down and forget that they have to still behave like human beings.

 

[FuManchu]

The funny thing is though the professional footballers have so many events/functions that they should have these social skills. ITs the fact that they got drunk and let their hair down and forget that they have to still behave like human beings.

Well at this stage, from what little we know, it's only one player, not the whole club. And I'm happy to think other players would not have supported doing this to an outsider.

 

[NUFC Tiger]

Mad Monday indeed

 

[JeffDunne]

Yeah bugger them, If they have a name like that then they deserve to be burnt .

Who was burnt?

Have we even seen the remains of the outfit that was set on fire?

They don't deserve to be assaulted but they do deserve to be humiliated.

After all - that's their act!

 

[CF]

I actually agree with this. The St. Kilda school girl thing was definitely reported in a manner which made it seem worse than it was. The initial reports for instance made it seem as though St. Kilda was having some sort of orgy with KD when as it turned out she'd simply gotten access to the photos at a later date. The photos themselves were embarrassing but the players hadn't done anything particularly wrong - naked photos don't hurt anyone, even if it is a little weird.

You missed the whole point didn't you. It was never reported that there was an orgy so your exaggeration is ridiculous. The St Kilda Schoolgirl scandal is just another case of footballers treating women appallingly (like their bun nights and gang bangs) all in the name of team bonding. Sam Gilbert had sex with a 17yo and then dumped her once he got tired of her. Her reaction was over the top I agree and the media frenzy it generated unfortunate.

But don't forget that this all started with the appalling actions of Sam Gilbert whom also sent her the nude photos of his team mates which she posted on facebook in an act of revenge. She didn't just "get her hands on them" as you say, she was given them by Gilbert.

Just like Montagna tag teamed his mate Milne to have sex with his girlfriend without her consent. These are not isolated incidents in the football community. Your comments are ill-informed and ignorant.

 

[Dynamics]

Yeah I get that, but slap on the wrist and on you go.
The fact is the punishment will fit the impact on the victim. Considering he wasnt even burnt, and uninjured, you'd think a suspended sentence and a fine or something would suffice.
Idiot move, but hardly worth an inquest.

Those words just about sum it up. 13 year old halfwits play with fire, not grown men.

If the guy had been burned the person/s responsible could have been facing charges and deservedly so.

As it stands, they should thank their god/stars/lotto numbers/dumb luck that he wasn't hurt, make a genuine apology and cop any punishment they cop from the club, which you'd think wouldn't be too huge given that he apparently wasn't injured.

 

[JeffDunne]

Sam Gilbert had sex with a 17yo and then dumped her once he got tired of her.

Despicable act.

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Vlad laughing was the best moment in his entire tenure as CEO.

Seriously you cant make this shit up.

 

[mysainters]

Who ticked off little entertainers on the running sheet for the days festivities?

Who didn't take the call from the company all yesterday afternoon?

We fail on more levels than footballers behaving badly.

 

[spudmaster]

Vlad laughing was the best moment in his entire tenure as CEO.

Seriously you cant make this shit up.

Genuinely had a good laugh watching his reaction. Bloody funny!
It's the sign of a bloke who's thinking 'oh screw it, what a year!'