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go_the_dockers · Mar 16, 2023

What type of player is the best sub?

Flexible? Damaging?

I don't mind Henry as sub. Not elite fitness, but can do some damage with limited kicks. Can play mid or forward as well

Arcassius · Mar 16, 2023

I like Arsenal's approach to subs - they redefined the sub role as 'impactors' in the internal language they use. Makes sense in terms of what the sub can achieve - being used to change the game

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arsesmart · Mar 16, 2023

bushchook said:
It is pretty silly. Taberner is our #1 key forward.

Maybe, but he's not named as such in that team.

Vintage · Mar 16, 2023

MrDanggazz said:
Hughes on the wing makes no sense to me, the bloke is the most WAFL player I’ve ever seen. I love Switta but I seriously hope we see Sturt or Treacy replace his spot come game day, hopefully they are playing silly buggars with the team sheet.

Switta out? What?

seriously WTF?

332docker · Mar 16, 2023

Semi Final team 2022 (last game of year)

FB: James Aish, Brennan Cox, Griffin Logue

HB: Hayden Young, Alex Pearce, Luke Ryan

C: Jordan Clark, Andrew Brayshaw, Blake Acres

HF: Lachie Schultz, Sam Switkowski, Heath Chapman

FF: Jye Amiss, Rory Lobb

7

Rory Lobb

Age
31

Ht

207cm

Wt
106kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
11.0

3

K
6.7

3

HB
4.4

3

M
4.0

4

T
2.4

4

G
0.9

4

D
11.3

3

K
8.0

3

HB
3.3

2

M
4.6

4

T
1.4

2

G
1.0

4

D
7.0

2

K
4.0

2

HB
3.0

3

M
2.6

3

T
2.8

5

G
0.6

3

, Michael Walters

10

Michael Walters

Age
34

Ht

176cm

Wt
77kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
17.2

4

K
11.0

4

HB
6.2

4

M
3.9

4

T
2.9

4

G
1.7

5

D
20.9

5

K
11.8

5

HB
9.1

5

M
3.6

4

T
3.3

4

G
1.0

4

D
13.0

4

K
9.4

4

HB
3.6

3

M
4.4

4

T
1.8

4

G
0.8

4

FOL: Sean Darcy, Will Brodie, Caleb Serong

IC: David Mundy, Nathan O'Driscoll, Brandon Walker, Michael Frederick

Round 1 team 2023

FB: Jordan Clark, Alex Pearce, Luke Ryan

HB: Brennan Cox, Hayden Young, Heath Chapman

C: Ethan Hughes, Will Brodie, James Aish

HF: Michael Frederick, Luke Jackson, Jaeger O'Meara

2

Jaeger O'meara

Age
30

Ht

184cm

Wt
84kg

Pos.
Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D
22.9

5

K
12.4

5

HB
10.6

5

M
3.7

4

T
5.5

5

CL
4.8

5

D
20.9

5

K
13.0

5

HB
7.9

4

M
3.6

4

T
4.0

5

CL
5.0

5

D
19.4

5

K
11.4

4

HB
8.0

5

M
4.0

4

T
4.0

5

CL
4.6

5

FF: Lachie Schultz, Nat Fyfe, Sam Switkowski

FOL: Sean Darcy, Andrew Brayshaw, Caleb Serong

IC: Brandon Walker, Liam Henry, Matt Taberner, Bailey Banfield

41

Bailey Banfield

Age
26

Ht

190cm

Wt
88kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
13.6

3

K
7.2

3

HB
6.5

4

M
2.9

3

T
3.9

5

G
0.3

3

D
9.5

2

K
5.3

2

HB
4.3

3

M
2.0

2

T
2.8

4

G
0.5

4

D
14.4

4

K
7.6

3

HB
6.8

5

M
3.8

4

T
3.2

5

G
0.2

3

, Matthew Johnson, Josh Treacy, Sam Sturt

1

Sam Sturt

Age
24

Ht

190cm

Wt
81kg

Pos.
Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D
7.7

2

K
4.0

2

HB
3.7

3

M
2.3

2

T
1.0

3

G
1.3

5

D
7.7

2

K
4.0

1

HB
3.7

3

M
2.3

2

T
1.0

2

G
1.3

5

D
7.7

2

K
4.0

2

HB
3.7

3

M
2.3

3

T
1.0

3

G
1.3

5

, Nathan Wilson

14

Nathan Wilson

Age
32

Ht

185cm

Wt
83kg

Pos.
Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D
15.1

4

K
11.6

4

HB
3.5

3

M
3.9

4

T
1.5

3

MG
456.0

5

D
10.7

3

K
9.0

4

HB
1.7

1

M
3.2

3

T
0.8

1

MG
271.8

4

D
7.2

2

K
4.6

2

HB
2.6

3

M
1.4

2

T
2.4

4

Out: Griffin Logue, Blake Acres, Jye Amiss, Rory Lobb, Michael Walters, David Mundy, Nathan O'Driscoll

In: Ethan Hughes, Luke Jackson, Jaeger O'Meara, Nat Fyfe and 3 of the following:

Liam Henry?, Matt Taberner?, Bailey Banfield?, Matthew Johnson?, Josh Treacy?, Sam Sturt?, Nathan Wilson?

We look a much better balanced team this year

I hope for
Matt Taberner, Josh Treacy and Liam Henry to come into team after they cut the emergencies on Friday.

Bailey Banfield to be the super sub

MrDanggazz · Mar 16, 2023

Vintage said:
Switta out? What?

seriously WTF?

I never said out, I simply mean starting on the field for the structure.

Freo Big Fella · Mar 16, 2023

From the selected side (and my own preferences on field):

Ryan - Pearce - Chapman
Young - Cox - Clark
Aish - Brodie - Henry
Jackson - Treacy - Fyfe
Switkowski - Tabs - Schultz

R: Darcy - Brayshaw - Serong

I/C: JOM - Frederick - Walker - Sturt

Sub: Hughes

WaywardSonSon · Mar 16, 2023

Snuffaluphagus said:
Like Square Peg I am mentally preparing myself for Banfield to be joining Hughes on Sunday, I'm not sure I'm going to last long sticking to my resolution of cutting out the negatives towards Freo players on here.

I'm getting great mileage out of this puppy!

In all seriousness though, Banners is a great guy, so I could never be mad at him. Also, he's just playing that lame "tackle as many people as you can within the forward fifty" role that coaches think is so goddamn important. If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at the list management team for believing forwards were not a necessary thing for years on end! That's how we end up with players being shoe-horned into positions! Haha

Vintage · Mar 16, 2023

332docker said:
Semi Final team 2022 (last game of year)

FB: James Aish, Brennan Cox, Griffin Logue

HB: Hayden Young, Alex Pearce, Luke Ryan

C: Jordan Clark, Andrew Brayshaw, Blake Acres

HF: Lachie Schultz, Sam Switkowski, Heath Chapman

FF: Jye Amiss, Rory Lobb, Michael Walters

FOL: Sean Darcy, Will Brodie, Caleb Serong

IC: David Mundy, Nathan O'Driscoll, Brandon Walker, Michael Frederick

Round 1 team 2023

FB: Jordan Clark, Alex Pearce, Luke Ryan

HB: Brennan Cox, Hayden Young, Heath Chapman

C: Ethan Hughes, Will Brodie, James Aish

HF: Michael Frederick, Luke Jackson, Jaeger O'Meara

FF: Lachie Schultz, Nat Fyfe, Sam Switkowski

FOL: Sean Darcy, Andrew Brayshaw, Caleb Serong

IC: Brandon Walker, Liam Henry, Matt Taberner, Bailey Banfield, Matthew Johnson, Josh Treacy, Sam Sturt, Nathan Wilson

Out: Griffin Logue, Blake Acres, Jye Amiss, Rory Lobb, Michael Walters, David Mundy, Nathan O'Driscoll

In: Ethan Hughes, Luke Jackson, Jaeger O'Meara, Nat Fyfe and 3 of the following:

Liam Henry?, Matt Taberner?, Bailey Banfield?, Matthew Johnson?, Josh Treacy?, Sam Sturt?, Nathan Wilson?

We look a much better balanced team this year

I hope for
Matt Taberner, Josh Treacy and Liam Henry to come into team after they cut the emergencies on Friday.

Bailey Banfield to be the super sub

Good assessment. I like to order the ins and out to match approx where they play:
out: Logue, acres, amiss, Lobb, Walters, Mundy, NOD
in: Fyfe, Hughes, tabs, Jackson, Treacy?, O’meara, henry

im not sure we are any better on paper. If nod and Walters were then I think we are, but the real improvement is just young guys getting a bit older.

ImperialPurple · Mar 16, 2023

Vintage said:
Good assessment. I like to order the ins and out to match approx where they play:
out: Logue, acres, amiss, Lobb, Walters, Mundy, NOD
in: Fyfe, Hughes, tabs, Jackson, Treacy?, O’meara, henry

im not sure we are any better on paper. If nod and Walters were then I think we are, but the real improvement is just young guys getting a bit older.

Imo in the positions you’ve compared I think it looks a bit like this:
Fyfe > Logue
Hughes < Acres
Tabs > Amiss (right now)
Jackson > Lobb
Henry < NOD
O’Meara < Mundy
Walters and Treacy not like for like so can’t compare (as you’ve suggested)

Edit: Hughes would never shit his pants like Acres just did, so maybe Hughes > Acres

Snuffaluphagus · Mar 16, 2023

WaywardSonSon said:
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I'm getting great mileage out of this puppy!

In all seriousness though, Banners is a great guy, so I could never be mad at him. Also, he's just playing that lame "tackle as many people as you can within the forward fifty" role that coaches think is so goddamn important. If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at the list management team for believing forwards were not a necessary thing for years on end! That's how we end up with players being shoe-horned into positions! Haha

I wouldnt be mad at Banners, and we would have the forwards, he’d be picked ahead of Treacy and Sturt. I’d just be a little frustrated the match committee are so safe in their thinking.

WaywardSonSon · Mar 16, 2023

Snuffaluphagus said:
I wouldnt be mad at Banners, and we would have the forwards, he’d be picked ahead of Treacy and Sturt. I’d just be a little frustrated the match committee are so safe in their thinking.

Ahh yes, I see your point there. I thought you were saying you'd speak poorly about him if he was picked though, so isn't that kind of being mad at him?

E Shed · Mar 16, 2023

I was somewhat disturbed to read an interview with Lyon this afternoon where he said something along the lines of:

"Watching from the media I thought not enough teams were taking advantage of the stand rule to move the ball quickly.
I've been out of the game so I left it to my assistants to develop a fast, attacking gameplan. I'm just there to add the 10% on top, the young assistants are doing the gameplan.
We have a lot of elite runners in our team (Saints) so we're going to back them to outrun opposition and we'll worry a few teams this year."

I now have pre-PTSD at the idea of the Saints doing a Collingwood on us and just playing blitzkrieg while we go back into our shells and move the ball slowly and bomb it on the forwards heads.

What should happen if I'm thinking logically is our team should be much better organised, more talented and cohesive and methodically take them apart over 4 quarters but if we're 5 goals down at quarter time from fast turnovers I may have an embolism.

Disclaimer - I write sometimes to externalise my fears around how invested in this stupid sport I am. Don't take everything I say seriously.

_007_ · Mar 16, 2023

Crazy question fellow Freo enthusiasts.

If we just want a mature body to fill gaps up and down the wing, isn't Bailey Banfield an actual midfielder?

Follow up question. Would that not allow us to play an extra forward?

I will withhold my melt for now.....

Quazar · Mar 16, 2023

E Shed said:
I was somewhat disturbed to read an interview with Lyon this afternoon where he said something along the lines of:

"Watching from the media I thought not enough teams were taking advantage of the stand rule to move the ball quickly.
I've been out of the game so I left it to my assistants to develop a fast, attacking gameplan. I'm just there to add the 10% on top, the young assistants are doing the gameplan.
We have a lot of elite runners in our team (Saints) so we're going to back them to outrun opposition and we'll worry a few teams this year."

I now have pre-PTSD at the idea of the Saints doing a Collingwood on us and just playing blitzkrieg while we go back into our shells and move the ball slowly and bomb it on the forwards heads.

What should happen if I'm thinking logically is our team should be much better organised, more talented and cohesive and methodically take them apart over 4 quarters but if we're 5 goals down at quarter time from fast turnovers I may have an embolism.

Disclaimer - I write sometimes to externalise my fears around how invested in this stupid sport I am. Don't take everything I say seriously.

also, you continued to write in italics after the quote, which is kinda weird

E Shed · Mar 16, 2023

Quazar said:
also, you continued to write in italics after the quote, which is kinda weird

Not sure if you're joking but my browser displays all text on BF as italics. It doesn't make any difference to how it looks when I turn it off and on.

pK75 · Mar 16, 2023

E Shed said:
I was somewhat disturbed to read an interview with Lyon this afternoon where he said something along the lines of:

"Watching from the media I thought not enough teams were taking advantage of the stand rule to move the ball quickly.
I've been out of the game so I left it to my assistants to develop a fast, attacking gameplan. I'm just there to add the 10% on top, the young assistants are doing the gameplan.
We have a lot of elite runners in our team (Saints) so we're going to back them to outrun opposition and we'll worry a few teams this year."

I now have pre-PTSD at the idea of the Saints doing a Collingwood on us and just playing blitzkrieg while we go back into our shells and move the ball slowly and bomb it on the forwards heads.

What should happen if I'm thinking logically is our team should be much better organised, more talented and cohesive and methodically take them apart over 4 quarters but if we're 5 goals down at quarter time from fast turnovers I may have an embolism.

Disclaimer - I write sometimes to externalise my fears around how invested in this stupid sport I am. Don't take everything I say seriously.

Love this bit, so essentially if they suck it’s the assistant’s fault as they developed the game plan, but if they win it’s his 10% on top that did the trick?

I've been out of the game so I left it to my assistants to develop a fast, attacking gameplan. I'm just there to add the 10% on top, the young assistants are doing the gameplan.

No wonder he seems so relaxed, reminds me of 2016 when he took a back seat during preseason and left David Hale in charge.

WaywardSonSon · Mar 16, 2023

pK75 said:
Love this bit, so essentially if they suck it’s the assistant’s fault as they developed the game plan, but if they win it’s his 10% on top that did the trick?

I've been out of the game so I left it to my assistants to develop a fast, attacking gameplan. I'm just there to add the 10% on top, the young assistants are doing the gameplan.

No wonder he seems so relaxed, reminds me of 2016 when he took a back seat during preseason and left David Hale in charge.

You can see the 10% on top. It was just enough to shift him to the next belt hole lol.

Quazar · Mar 16, 2023

E Shed said:
Not sure if you're joking but my browser displays all text on BF as italics. It doesn't make any difference to how it looks when I turn it off and on.

just gentle ribbing Shed mate; I've never seen you post italics in this manner (after you shared the Ross quote it just continued when you started posting your own thoughts..). This is the first time I've seen it like this.

Also, on the Ross quote - he'd know he'd have to evolve and that part of that is allowing his coaching staff to implement more modern-ideas. After tonight, I'm expecting a hard, physical game - so anything that gets us the 4 points will suffice. Hopefully we can kick a higher score though!

Might have been a while, and Ross is no mug, but we're still good enough to win here, and I still feel we will.

Spirit Level · Mar 16, 2023

LOL ****ing Hughes FMD

He's going to be this years Banfield I swear

Taylor · Mar 16, 2023

Hughes was kicking flat bullets inside fifty to the leading forward at training, let's see what he's got to offer in this new role.

Personally I just want him to work hard and become the brick wall of some opposition nightmares when there is a contest

E Shed · Mar 16, 2023

Quazar said:
just gentle ribbing Shed mate; I've never seen you post italics in this manner (after you shared the Ross quote it just continued when you started posting your own thoughts..). This is the first time I've seen it like this.

Also, on the Ross quote - he'd know he'd have to evolve and that part of that is allowing his coaching staff to implement more modern-ideas. After tonight, I'm expecting a hard, physical game - so anything that gets us the 4 points will suffice. Hopefully we can kick a higher score though!

Might have been a while, and Ross is no mug, but we're still good enough to win here, and I still feel we will.

Ah, cheers. Interesting when I look at it in the BigFooty app I can see the formatting but it doesn’t show up in Safari on Mac. It’s just all italics.

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Serongadongdong · Mar 17, 2023

Hughes or Acres? You decide!

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Purple Jesus · Mar 17, 2023

Guarantee you, for all his faults, Hughes doesn't hear footsteps.

ilikepotatoes · Mar 17, 2023

Serongadongdong said:
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Hughes or Acres? You decide!

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I mean, this is exactly what I'd expect from Hughes in this situation.

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