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Do you think he should stay JD?JeffDunne said:
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St Kilda - Time to Sack Thommo
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should let em wear thongs for a start...............
You could have Pagan.
Would save us $600,000 per year, and he couldn't do much worse than Thomas.
I am not suggesting it is all Pagan's fault where we are at, but some tactical and selection decision bemuse me.
Having said that he may get more out of oyur list because he has more too work with.
Would save us $600,000 per year, and he couldn't do much worse than Thomas.
I am not suggesting it is all Pagan's fault where we are at, but some tactical and selection decision bemuse me.
Having said that he may get more out of oyur list because he has more too work with.
Alexis Logan said:
Did you watch the game? As I said earlier in this thread:
Unbelievable performance by GT. Either the players are not listening to him at all, or they are and as a result are playing some of the worst football I have ever seen.
The first movement of just about every St Kilda player for the first 3 quarters when they took a mark was to STOP, PROP and LOOK SIDEWAYS OR BACKWARDS. This must have been an instruction. Even Dal Santo was doing it. No player even attempted to run through the lines. From my point of view, this style of play gave Geelong no option but to flood.
Drummond said:
Year after year after year. It sickens me to think that they could have won a flag or two if not for GT.
JeffDunne said:
Yep. Many people have a soft spot for St Kilda. For many they are a second team.
There also seems to be a fair few Saints fans who are advocating his sacking too.
If I was a Saints fan I would be even more vociferous in blaming GT
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I just cant see how in harvey's record game they couldnt get up find any spirit what-so-ever. I was on the cats all week until the back of the Herald Sun changed my mind because I thought Harvey could get em over the line. No 
ing Heart.
Yup soft spot for ST Kilda here. Grant should go. They have the list for the premiership but not the tactics.
ing Heart.Yup soft spot for ST Kilda here. Grant should go. They have the list for the premiership but not the tactics.
you'd be surprised what peoples intentions are, I've always had a soft spot for the sainters myself, had a friend at Uni who played a few games there in the early 80's so we used to get down there a bit to watch them play. And yes in some ways they were my "second" side, in that, unless they were playing Collingwood, I wanted them to win.JeffDunne said:
I think you'll find that a lot of the sledging that goes towards the saints is because, ONE: they have a coach that is obviously not making the grade with this list and you only get 3 or 4 years at best to do something with it and I'm sure a lot would like to see St Kilda with more than one flag. And also the perception of the power plays he's made to get into and stay in the job, especially now its increasingly obvious he shouldn't be there.
And TWO: all of a sudden, we have a number of saints supporters telling other clubs, that have been doing a lot better than them for years, in most footballing aspects, how to run a club or worse being critical of clubs. You'd reckon they'd just sit back and enjoy the success and when or if, the on field results happened, then gloat quietly. But no, they've jumped straight in, when the perception of excellence has arrived, without waiting for the tangible. Where are you going to hide when the inevitable slide occurs, without the luxury of a flag that may have given you at least some comfort???
1. Firstly, i thought Pagan was getting $800K, so techincally,
bw Pagan and Kouta, they can own the club lol
2. Apart from gehrig, the whole team tried hard, but they looked out of position and the decision making were actrocious. This can only be the coaches' stupidity and gameplan.
bw Pagan and Kouta, they can own the club lol
2. Apart from gehrig, the whole team tried hard, but they looked out of position and the decision making were actrocious. This can only be the coaches' stupidity and gameplan.
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Grant Thomas has played a huge hoax on the St Kilda FC.
Even those saint supporters who always seem to stick up for him are slowly coming to the realisation that the guy is a knob.
Grant Thomas the mere mention of his name strikes fear into every Saint supporter.
Even those saint supporters who always seem to stick up for him are slowly coming to the realisation that the guy is a knob.
Grant Thomas the mere mention of his name strikes fear into every Saint supporter.
JeffDunne
TheBrownDog
In a word . . . yes.Ron said:
Grant Thomas is a legend. I hope he coaches untl the day he keels over. Cos with this fat usless prick in charge, the Aints will never win a flag and that is a good thing as far as I am concerened.
The bloke obviously has no personal discipline (Look at the size of him, fattest coach in the AFL by a mile) so why would you expect his players to show any.
That said their list is over-rated, they fall away very quickly and have no depth. They also have very few players in the 24 to 28 bracket. Ball is a gun but it is a disgrace to see him playing under that much duress, poor bloke can't even kick. BUt a half fit Ball is better than a fully fit McGough or Powell.
The bloke obviously has no personal discipline (Look at the size of him, fattest coach in the AFL by a mile) so why would you expect his players to show any.
That said their list is over-rated, they fall away very quickly and have no depth. They also have very few players in the 24 to 28 bracket. Ball is a gun but it is a disgrace to see him playing under that much duress, poor bloke can't even kick. BUt a half fit Ball is better than a fully fit McGough or Powell.
JeffDunne
TheBrownDog
So our list is poor but it's GT's coaching that's letting us down?
It's the old 50 cents each way. When we win it's because our list is that good a moron could coach us to a win . . . when we lose our list is poor but GT can't coach anyway.
Maybe for once people might realise our list isn't what it's made out to be and that our results are as much a reflection of that than it is GT's coaching.
It's the old 50 cents each way. When we win it's because our list is that good a moron could coach us to a win . . . when we lose our list is poor but GT can't coach anyway.
Maybe for once people might realise our list isn't what it's made out to be and that our results are as much a reflection of that than it is GT's coaching.
Yep, Guerra gone, Penny gone, Aussie gone, all had more left in them but the great communicator could not get through to them. And Noble also the year before.
Threw away their first pick for Watts (son of the CEO, can you spell COI JD!) and Harvey, Max and Thomas are near the end. The only depth they have is McGough, powell and Peckett and Hamill is a broken down hack whilst Kosi just can't take a trick.
The end result is that they do not have the list to win a flag, they should but GT does not have the brains. A good coach would still get them to top 4 and from there you are a real chance. Problem is GT is crap, he knows it, you can see it written all over his face. Enjoy Aints he will be there for some time yet as he has a mortgage to pay off.
Threw away their first pick for Watts (son of the CEO, can you spell COI JD!) and Harvey, Max and Thomas are near the end. The only depth they have is McGough, powell and Peckett and Hamill is a broken down hack whilst Kosi just can't take a trick.
The end result is that they do not have the list to win a flag, they should but GT does not have the brains. A good coach would still get them to top 4 and from there you are a real chance. Problem is GT is crap, he knows it, you can see it written all over his face. Enjoy Aints he will be there for some time yet as he has a mortgage to pay off.
JeffDunne said:
I am one who is very concerned about Grant Thomas as coach of the Saints. I simply don't think he's the right man to be coaching them. I am very concerned about the welfare of St.Kilda as I would love to see them win a premiership for Robert Harvey who is one of my all-time favourite players. I'd love to see a team like St.Kilda or Geelong win a flag for the good of football.
I can understand St.Kilda fans being protective of their own. It took me a long time to accept the fact that Peter Schwab was a disaster as coach of the Hawks. Even though many people kept trying to tell me, I refused to see it because I was being loyal to one of our favourite sons. I was hoping he would prove everyone wrong. Sadly, he didn't.
Don't think that everyone out here expressing concerns over Thomas' coaching is anti-St.Kilda because it simply isn't true. The facts are this team is not progressing under Thomas. IMHO they have taken a step backwards in the past 12 months and it should be a huge concern to all at St.Kilda because they will never have a better chance than right now to win a flag.
Adelaide Hawk said:
I thought that 2004/05 were their real window and this year was probably the last year, but not at their peak given so many to retire at the end of the year. But I think now that Hamill is out for a while and gherig is looking disinterested and maybe past it too, they have floundered their chance.
BUT! Its a long season and if they scrape into the 4, they may still do some damage. they still are the best Vic side at the moment.
JeffDunne said:
Who has had a better list of players than St.Kilda over the past 3 years? I can't think of anyone.
JeffDunne
TheBrownDog
Did Gehrig look disinterested last week?
Last night he was beaten soundly and went into his shell. Would people prefer he spat the dummy?
Oh wait . . . then he'd be frustrated with GT's coaching.
Last night Gehrig played on the best FB in the league. Our delivery was crap.
He was beaten by a better player - nothing more.
Last night he was beaten soundly and went into his shell. Would people prefer he spat the dummy?
Oh wait . . . then he'd be frustrated with GT's coaching.
Last night Gehrig played on the best FB in the league. Our delivery was crap.
He was beaten by a better player - nothing more.
JeffDunne
TheBrownDog
Over the past three seasons?Adelaide Hawk said:
Ummm . . . let me think . . . maybe Brisbane, Port and Syndey and probably West Coast.
Clearly Brisbane & Port have sufferred due to age and fitness but not once in the last three years would I claim we've had the best list.
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JD - simple question.
Do you think GT coached a good game last night?
Do you think GT coached a good game last night?
JeffDunne
TheBrownDog
It clearly wasn't one of his better games.
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