Staker asks for guaranteed midfield time

[Monkey Worshipper]

How come all of a sudden Staker is this one dimensional unique can't adapt to anything player?
When all of a sudden out of nowhere did he become a top line midfielder?
Stop feeling sorry for the guy, he has played 5 good games in 5 years.
Potential yes, performs......................... NO

Waters can do it, Stenglein can do it, Lynch can do it, in fact most players can adapt on a weekly basis. He has not been able to adapt or fit in. He has had more chances than you can poke a stick at.

It just goes to show you how bad we are going when we are talking about Staker as a poor soul who the club has not looked after well enough.

What has Stenglein adapted to? Looked like a $M player with Judd & Cuzz and has now gone to water.

Waters? - one great year, in the backline. Showed promise in a fwd pocket in pre-season before sucumming to OP. Since then has showed... how to be a turn-over king? Shanking kicks left and right, to rival the feats of Shank Fletcher & Petal Rosa

Lynch - yes


We are about to find out (if Staker gets his wish in the mid) if Staker has been ordinary because he is continually thrown around or if he's been continually thrown aroubd because he's been ordinary.

 

[Obeanie1]

What has Stenglein adapted to? Looked like a $M player with Judd & Cuzz and has now gone to water.

Waters? - one great year, in the backline. Showed promise in a fwd pocket in pre-season before sucumming to OP. Since then has showed... how to be a turn-over king? Shanking kicks left and right, to rival the feats of Shank Fletcher & Petal Rosa
Lynch - yes
We are about to find out (if Staker gets his wish in the mid) if Staker has been ordinary because he is continually thrown around or if he's been continually thrown aroubd because he's been ordinary.

Just read the highlighted part and think about it

So don't you think the groin injury has affected his skills?

Give the guy a break, players play on through the pain barrier instead of throwing in the towel and supporters bag their disposal.

Once a player picks up a problem injury like OP their performance drops....simple.

When they are fully fit and still can't make the grade then fair enough.

 

[anti.]

waters was decent when playing this season. i thought he had stepped up early on.

lets reserve our judgements for next season when hopefully we arent a basket case and everything that can go wrong, does.

 

[billyboy 21]

in most clubs i think the hardness of a player(waters) will get them a game over the possible potential of a player who has had five years on a list (staker).

 

[Biggie]

Hardness is almost been wiped out from our game nowadays.

Id rather no turnovers tbh but hey we cant always get what we want...

 

[billyboy 21]

agree 100% big man. hardness is being wiped out and would prefer no turnovers. although would definately prefer to see someone shit themselves when the ball is between them and waters, over the potential of staker. yes he played good in the midfield for two games but he has played over a hundred games and two good games out of a hundred doesn't give me a hard on over his potential.

 

[Underdog]

agree 100% big man. hardness is being wiped out and would prefer no turnovers. although would definately prefer to see someone shit themselves when the ball is between them and waters, over the potential of staker. yes he played good in the midfield for two games but he has played over a hundred games and two good games out of a hundred doesn't give me a hard on over his potential.

yeah...he's only played 2 good games in a hundred

Could you possibly be any more ridiculous?

 

[Biggie]

yeah...he's only played 2 good games in a hundred

Could you possibly be any more ridiculous?

Dont tempt fate dog...

 

[billyboy 21]

an x factor. what x factor has he shown? an ability to play when his career is on the line

 

[bodazoka]

agree 100% big man. hardness is being wiped out and would prefer no turnovers. although would definately prefer to see someone shit themselves when the ball is between them and waters, over the potential of staker. yes he played good in the midfield for two games but he has played over a hundred games and two good games out of a hundred doesn't give me a hard on over his potential.

There has been allot of "2 games out of 100" comments about Staker. He has played good games in other positions his best games this year have been in the midfield. 1 GREAT game 1 pretty good one THIS year out of how many in the midfield?... 2..3.. even 4 max. AND its not like he has played worse than any other midfielder in the team atm.

 

[billyboy 21]

someone in a previous post said something bout waters having one good season in the backline and being a turnover king. just trying to say id prefer waters toughness over the potential of staker as a midfielder

 

[billyboy 21]

Waters? - one great year, in the backline. Showed promise in a fwd pocket in pre-season before sucumming to OP. Since then has showed... how to be a turn-over king? Shanking kicks left and right, to rival the feats of Shank Fletcher & Petal Rosa
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this quote

 

[anti.]

i'd rather wait until the players are playing until i bag them in their future endevours.

 

[Underdog]

an x factor. what x factor has he shown? an ability to play when his career is on the line

This year

Round 18 Fremantle 18 disposals, 7 tackles
Round 17 St Kilda 22 disposals, 6 tackles, 3 goals, 13 inside 50s
Round 16 Brisbane 26 disposal, 3 tackles, 6 inside 50s
Round 11 Sydney 19 disposals, 2 goals, 3 tackles, 3 inside 50s
Round 8 North Melbourne 18 disposals, 3 goals, 3 inside 50s
Round 3 Fremantle 22 disposals, 10 marks, 3 inside 50s

Littered amongst those games included quite a few one goal games, not amazing but certainly handy for a flanker. He didn't really contribute much in 3 games.

6 very good games
5 decent games where he contributed
3 poor games where he barely contributed

 

[billyboy 21]

This year

Round 18 Fremantle 18 disposals, 7 tackles
Round 17 St Kilda 22 disposals, 6 tackles, 3 goals, 13 inside 50s
Round 16 Brisbane 26 disposal, 3 tackles, 6 inside 50s
Round 11 Sydney 19 disposals, 2 goals, 3 tackles, 3 inside 50s
Round 8 North Melbourne 18 disposals, 3 goals, 3 inside 50s
Round 3 Fremantle 22 disposals, 10 marks, 3 inside 50s

Littered amongst those games included quite a few one goal games, not amazing but certainly handy for a flanker. He didn't really contribute much in 3 games.

6 very good games
5 decent games where he contributed
3 poor games where he barely contributed

you previously mentioned his X-FACTOR. refer to my posts above for what i was trying to imply. that i would prefer the toughness of waters over the potential of staker

 

[mitchzz]

Do coaching staff usually like it when players demand to play in a set position? Especially someone as versitile as Staker., does it depend on the player?

 

[Juicy_568]

This year
Round 3 Fremantle 22 disposals, 10 marks, 3 inside 50s

dont think he played that well gave away so many frees that game iirc

 

[greennick]

This year

Round 18 Fremantle 18 disposals, 7 tackles
Round 17 St Kilda 22 disposals, 6 tackles, 3 goals, 13 inside 50s
Round 16 Brisbane 26 disposal, 3 tackles, 6 inside 50s
Round 11 Sydney 19 disposals, 2 goals, 3 tackles, 3 inside 50s
Round 8 North Melbourne 18 disposals, 3 goals, 3 inside 50s
Round 3 Fremantle 22 disposals, 10 marks, 3 inside 50s

Littered amongst those games included quite a few one goal games, not amazing but certainly handy for a flanker. He didn't really contribute much in 3 games.

6 very good games
5 decent games where he contributed
3 poor games where he barely contributed

Which makes him a better contributor than half the team this year!

 

[Underdog]

you previously mentioned his X-FACTOR. refer to my posts above for what i was trying to imply. that i would prefer the toughness of waters over the potential of staker

So what?

Waters isn't taking his position so why are you continuing down that path?

In fact, Waters has nothing to do with this topic at all. It was merely an off the cuff remark.

Why don't you address my above post and tell me which are not in the "two good games out of a hundred"...

Then you can tell me where the following fit in, which are just a few examples of many...are any of these in these "two games"?

Round 17 Western Bulldogs 4 goals, 1 assist, 3 inside 50s
Round 6 Fremantle 21 disposals, 3 goals
Round 2 Adelaide 18 disposals, 3 goals
Round 14 Carlton 14 disposals, 4 goals

 

[Underdog]

Do coaching staff usually like it when players demand to play in a set position? Especially someone as versitile as Staker., does it depend on the player?

Who cares if the club likes it or not. It's hurting his career and whilst the team benefits, he struggles and never gets the best out of himself

 

[Genesis67]

Do coaching staff usually like it when players demand to play in a set position? Especially someone as versitile as Staker., does it depend on the player?

Of course not. Flexibility is everything in modern AFL.

But Staker and his manager feel they can extend his career and earning capacity by asking/demanding to be able to spend more time in the middle, as that is where he seems to produce his best footy.

A contract is a negotiation. It'd be like one of my staff coming to me and saying "I need to re-negotiate, I need to be able to have Wed's off, but in return, I'll work more on Thursday". It's give and take.

The 'take' by Staker here is he wants a better shot at spending time where he feels he is most productive, and thus, has a better shot at earning more. The 'give' is that if he is then given that chance, he has to back it up on the park and produce the results, or the club drops him/trades/delists him and that earning capacity is removed.

 

[Underdog]

bah, screwy computer

 

[Underdog]

your post was a tad more articulate then mine Gen I should edit mine to "what he said"

 

[imright]

Then you can tell me where the following fit in, which are just a few examples of many...are any of these in these "two games"?

Round 17 Western Bulldogs 4 goals, 1 assist, 3 inside 50s
Round 6 Fremantle 21 disposals, 3 goals
Round 2 Adelaide 18 disposals, 3 goals
Round 14 Carlton 14 disposals, 4 goals

Staker's actually played well in other games but because he played defensive roles (and stopped his opponent) he didn't get 25+ posessions therefore supporters deem him as having a crap game.

Supporters who say that he's played 2 or 3 good games out of a 100 really have no idea.

 

[Genesis67]

Cheers mate