Staker asks for guaranteed midfield time

[QL 21]

Ok thats a fair point, but he has been there 5 years. And all I hear on here is how good our coaching staff are so how could they have made such a glaring mistake and never played him in the midfield?
Footy these days you need to be able to play everywhere especially when you have the size that Staker has. He has had numerous opportunity's in many different positions and has not grabbed it once.
I would rather invest in our kids.

Well, to be fair to Staker, we did have one of the best midfield's of all time. Would have been tough for anyone to break into that 2005-2007 midfield.

I would still like to see him be given a go. We can have 6-8 people rotating through the midfield, there is no reason why Staker can't be one of those players.

 

[West Coast 06]

Ok thats a fair point, but he has been there 5 years. And all I hear on here is how good our coaching staff are so how could they have made such a glaring mistake and never played him in the midfield?
Footy these days you need to be able to play everywhere especially when you have the size that Staker has. He has had numerous opportunity's in many different positions and has not grabbed it once.
I would rather invest in our kids.

Up until this year, spots in our midfield have been kind of tight.

He has never had a chance to consolidate a position as he is moved around from quarter to quarter, week to week. I understand where he is coming from wanting to sure up a position he has played well in. Wanting to make it his own now that the true stars of the midfield we had have departed.

Its not as is if it is not beneficial to the team to have a bigger, stronger body in there to help the young guys out. I dont agree with the sentiment that he should be able to play everywhere, it just creates a "jack of all trades, master of none" situation.

 

[Eagle Ant]

So will all those players you listed play 22 games next year? Every week we have 1-2 outs (due to injury, form etc) - so every player will be given a go.

Would love to see Staker be given more time in the middle. Played a few brilliant games in there last year, absolutely destroyed St Kilda.

I dont rate Staker, No suprise there, IMO he has had 5 years on the list and we have seen his very best, which is not good enough. At his best he is Explosive, unfortunatly he only explodes 1 in every 5 weeks and I would rather consistant performers in the side rather then 1 hit wonders.
Staker, Fletcher, Seaby and Stenglein are not in my best 22. Not in my best 26 either so would you sacrifice a developing player like EBERT to give some one who has had his chances to shine, a longer stint in the side when he is not in the best 22 available? NO

As I said in the earlier posts he has to be in the best 3-4 or 5 players filling a role and if he's not then he wont get a spot.

Who do you drop in the Back line? Glass, Waters, Bones, Nicoski, Wilkes, Mckenzie?
What about Forwards? Lynch, Hunter, Kennedy, Hansen, Mckinley, LeCras, Wirrapanda?
SO the mids Kerr, Priddis, Butler, Hurn, Rosa, Embley, Masten, Ebert, A.Selwood, Stenglein?
Do we Drop Cox and give him a go in the ruck if he has another Cry?
We cant forget our developing players either they need a go: S.Selwood, J.McNamara, Schofield, Spangher, McGinnity, Houlihan, M.Brown, Stevenson, Arrowsmith, Wilson, Notte and R.Davis.
I have Bolded My best 26 my starting 22 plus 3 EMG for your ease these people are ahead of Staker,Fletcher,Seaby Then these 3 after that lot.
WHO? got me stuffed
The simple fact is he is not a superstar and will not be one. He at best will be a handy utility or Bench/Reserve player. So he shouldn't be demanding Jack S**T IMO he should be happy to get a game. He should be proud to wear the Eagles jersey, if he's not then Piss him off and give a more deserving player a chance.

 

[Underdog]

SO the mids Kerr, Priddis, Butler, Hurn, Rosa, Embley, Masten, Ebert, A.Selwood, Stenglein?

Since when did Hurn, Rosa and Embley play in the middle?

Since when did Selwood, Ebert and Stenglein become incapable of playing on a flank?

The simple fact is he is not a superstar and will not be one. He at best will be a handy utility or Bench/Reserve player. So he shouldn't be demanding Jack S**T IMO he should be happy to get a game. He should be proud to wear the Eagles jersey, if he's not then Piss him off and give a more deserving player a chance.

Garbage.

Every person who is negotiating a contract has a right to set conditions regardless of whether they are a star or not. If he cares about it so much and West Coast are unwilling to come to the table, then he can go elsewhere.

At the moment his flexibility is hurting his career. He is finding an avenue to cement a more permanent position like 99% of players do. This will also allow for him to prepare and train to suit his position rather then bulking up and being told he's going to run around in the middle all day, thereby hindering his performance.

The majority of people only get 1 shot at being an AFL player and most players' careers only span 12 odd years maximum. Why would you f*ck it all up to please an internet hero who thinks he's being too demanding?

 

[Eagle Ant]

Since when did Hurn, Rosa and Embley play in the middle?
Rosa and Embley are wingmen.
Hurn was drafted as a Midfielder.
Since when did Selwood, Ebert and Stenglein become incapable of playing on a flank?
I never said they were incapable
I looked at a simple case of this is there defined position does Staker beat any of them.

Garbage.

Every person who is negotiating a contract has a right to set conditions regardless of whether they are a star or not. If he cares about it so much and West Coast are unwilling to come to the table, then he can go elsewhere.

At the moment his flexibility is hurting his career. He is finding an avenue to cement a more permanent position like 99% of players do. This will also allow for him to prepare and train to suit his position rather then bulking up and being told he's going to run around in the middle all day, thereby hindering his performance.

The majority of people only get 1 shot at being an AFL player and most players' careers only span 12 odd years maximum. Why would you f*ck it all up to please an internet hero who thinks he's being too demanding?

He is Shit! and Thats My opinion live with it.
He is not in our best 6 forwards
or our Best 6 defenders
or in our best 8 Mids
so trade him. easy

 

[QL 21]

He is Shit! and Thats My opinion live with it.
He is not in our best 6 forwards
or our Best 6 defenders
or in our best 8 Mids
so trade him. easy

So we trade everyone who isn't in our best 22? Do you know how a football list works?

 

[Underdog]

So we trade everyone who isn't in our best 22? Do you know how a football list works?

I don't think so because if we did what he suggests we would be left with 20 players

 

[West Coast 06]

I don't think so because if we did what he suggests we would be left with 20 players

And none of them would be out of high school yet!

 

[spEKTre]

Stakes had one good game all year and to be honest it was as good a game I have seen any Eagle play, however he cannot string games together and fades out very quickly after doing some good things early on.

Sign him up on 1 year performance based contracts I say and perhaps he will become more consistent and reliable and deliver his best game in game out.

 

[Biggie]

Hmmm.

Supercoach/Dream-team target?

In all honesty I hope he flourishes in the middle but having watched Staker for a period of time now, I wont get my hopes up.

Has he signed yet?

 

[greennick]

Hmmm.

Supercoach/Dream-team target?

Wait for pre-season form....

 

[AndrewJo]

Hmmm.

Supercoach/Dream-team target?

In all honesty I hope he flourishes in the middle but having watched Staker for a period of time now, I wont get my hopes up.

Has he signed yet?

Just heard on an Adelaide Sports Show that Andrew Embley was talking up Staker and there was a suggestion he could be at the Crows next year....just passing on info so don't shoot the messenger guys....

 

[Marlin01]

I don't see how the Eagles could guarantee him anything.
It just doesn't make sense.

What if he gets injured? What if Masten or Ebert play outstanding football and earn a place in the midfield? LeCras should get a full preseason in this year, are we going to hold him back because we have promised Staker a place in the midfield? What if we get Rich and he proves himself to be ready to play in the middle? Also what if we lose a couple of tall forwards to injury during a game, can we not send Staker forward?

I'd be interested to see the wording he would like included in his contract, but it seems to me that as soon as you start allowing those kind of things into contracts, you're inviting trouble within the player group.

 

[beatlesmith]

I don't see how the Eagles could guarantee him anything.
It just doesn't make sense.

What if he gets injured? What if Masten or Ebert play outstanding football and earn a place in the midfield? LeCras should get a full preseason in this year, are we going to hold him back because we have promised Staker a place in the midfield? What if we get Rich and he proves himself to be ready to play in the middle? Also what if we lose a couple of tall forwards to injury during a game, can we not send Staker forward?

I'd be interested to see the wording he would like included in his contract, but it seems to me that as soon as you start allowing those kind of things into contracts, you're inviting trouble within the player group.

its not really about that, he's not asking to be picked every game, its more about him wanting to play in one position, learn how to play one position. He's been thrown around and we expect him to be very good at each position which is unfair, he just wants to settle down in one position, and by is request to play in the midfield, it is the position he feels most comfortable playing in. Will still be asked to ocasionally fill in as a KP, i'm sure he's fine with it, but the point is that he feels confident playing as a midfielder and only wants to play one position. Form and whether he deserves a place is a different issue in itself

 

[West Coast 06]

Just heard on an Adelaide Sports Show that Andrew Embley was talking up Staker and there was a suggestion he could be at the Crows next year....just passing on info so don't shoot the messenger guys....

I'm guessing if Staker wants to be a midfielder, he wouldn't be going to Adelaide. He would play in the forwardline there surely?

 

[Underdog]

I don't see how the Eagles could guarantee him anything.
It just doesn't make sense.

What if he gets injured? What if Masten or Ebert play outstanding football and earn a place in the midfield? LeCras should get a full preseason in this year, are we going to hold him back because we have promised Staker a place in the midfield? What if we get Rich and he proves himself to be ready to play in the middle? Also what if we lose a couple of tall forwards to injury during a game, can we not send Staker forward?

He's not saying "I need to play every game and in the midfield"

He's saying "If I play, I want it to be as a midfielder not a KPP"

He will still have to deserve selection and I'm sure if we lose a tall or 2, he will cover a breach. That's just common sense.

In a nutshell, being thrown around means he never settles, loses confidence and is often not built for the role. By requesting he focus on the 1 role, means he can do plenty of fitness work and suitable weights work in the pre-season that will benefit him and will best allow him to settle and show what he can really produce.

 

[Marlin01]

I still don't see how that could be incorporated into a contract.

 

[Finding Ebo]

I still don't see how that could be incorporated into a contract.

Verbal agreement most likely.

I think Staker always wanted to re-sign, he probably just wants some kind of assurance that he'd be given the opportunity to get the most out of himself. As others have said, by knowing where he will be playing he can adapt his training accordingly. I'm sure the coaches can appreciate that.

 

[RoJo Junior]

I still don't see how that could be incorporated into a contract.

Contract Law 101. Balfour v Balfour. They must decipher whether or not the intent is sufficient enough to be considered binding.

Commerce does come in handy

 

[Biggie]

Just heard on an Adelaide Sports Show that Andrew Embley was talking up Staker and there was a suggestion he could be at the Crows next year....just passing on info so don't shoot the messenger guys....

How was the suggestion worded?

 

[shoe]

IMO he could even win our best and fairest next year.....

You're getting carried away again.. take a deep breath.

 

[wce4premiership]

It will be very very interesting to see if his consistency improves.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Staker's got a nerve, hasn't he?

"OK, I'll sign, but only if you promise to play me in my chosen position."

Bugger off - it's not U/10s.

Staker should be willing to play wherever the team needs him to play. If he doesn't like it, we should trade him.

 

[eaglesnutcase]

brett staker is the new jared brennan.gunna!!!! give him one year on a performance based contract.im sick to death of watching him go into a pack following an opposition player.he waits for the guy to pick the ball up then he tries to tackle.everytime you start to write him off he does something SPECIAL and you get your hopes up again.hes played a lot of games,shouldnt he have arrived by now??one year!!!! i think keep him but this is it.

 

[beatlesmith]

Staker's got a nerve, hasn't he?

"OK, I'll sign, but only if you promise to play me in my chosen position."

Bugger off - it's not U/10s.

Staker should be willing to play wherever the team needs him to play. If he doesn't like it, we should trade him.

the way i see it is that he will only develop any form of consistency if he is played and trained in one position. From Stakers perspective, he is expected to be good in every position on the ground which is unfair on him and he is just asking for a settled position, the position he feels most comfortable in. The eagles realise this, and were probably only going to play hm i the midfield from now on anyway, as we have a plethora of young KPP's lining up and he brings to the table things we needin a midfielder. A win-win for both parties. I'm sure he wouldn't object to filling in ata position during a game but expecting him to play FF, then CHB, then a tagger, then a wingman etc is unfair.