For some fun, which was quick on excel to do, I made a standardised points system for the premiership tally (not perfect of course, but i liked the outcome)
Rather than a simple premiership tally, a points system designated to each premiership won. In this example, I gave a weighting to the first premiership won in 1897 a value of 100, 101 to 1898, 102, 1899, ect.. all the way to 227 to the 2023 premiership
I think everyone agrees that the most recent premiership should hold the most points, as they bring greater bragging rights at the present time, but this tally also maintains historical premierships are tallied so they are not lost in time as the league continues to forever evolve
Why this formula seems successful?... Well to me at least
I thought if Hawthorne was on top, given the high concentration of flags in living memory, that it would be a good start. Carlton being ahead with more recent premierships than Essendon and then Collingwood in living memory to split the 3 at 16.
Richmonds recent dynasty and 1960s to 1980 era to come ahead of Melbourne to split them at 13.
Port Adelaide being ranked above St Kilda at 1 each, and Adelaide being ranked above the Bulldogs at 2
And the one I was most interested in was West Coast, as they have 4 fairly recent premierships. And I think its fair they ended up ranking a bit ahead of Sydney with the higher tally at 5, given 3 premierships were pre 1934, and instead of being 1/4 of the tally of Carlton, Essendon and Collingwood, they come up 1/3 behind. or 40% behind Melbourne rather 30%. And if they won 7 before any of the top 4 sides in this tally, they would likely be rated highest even at 11, which sounds right given their shorter time frame.
Finally, if Brisbane had won, they would have been higher than West Coast which would be fair, and if North win before Sydney their 5 rate at a higher value
You see these types of ratings systems in Tennis and Cricket rankings. Maybe there could be an official AFL style. Are you for or against something like this?
Rather than a simple premiership tally, a points system designated to each premiership won. In this example, I gave a weighting to the first premiership won in 1897 a value of 100, 101 to 1898, 102, 1899, ect.. all the way to 227 to the 2023 premiership
I think everyone agrees that the most recent premiership should hold the most points, as they bring greater bragging rights at the present time, but this tally also maintains historical premierships are tallied so they are not lost in time as the league continues to forever evolve
Why this formula seems successful?... Well to me at least
I thought if Hawthorne was on top, given the high concentration of flags in living memory, that it would be a good start. Carlton being ahead with more recent premierships than Essendon and then Collingwood in living memory to split the 3 at 16.
Richmonds recent dynasty and 1960s to 1980 era to come ahead of Melbourne to split them at 13.
Port Adelaide being ranked above St Kilda at 1 each, and Adelaide being ranked above the Bulldogs at 2
And the one I was most interested in was West Coast, as they have 4 fairly recent premierships. And I think its fair they ended up ranking a bit ahead of Sydney with the higher tally at 5, given 3 premierships were pre 1934, and instead of being 1/4 of the tally of Carlton, Essendon and Collingwood, they come up 1/3 behind. or 40% behind Melbourne rather 30%. And if they won 7 before any of the top 4 sides in this tally, they would likely be rated highest even at 11, which sounds right given their shorter time frame.
Finally, if Brisbane had won, they would have been higher than West Coast which would be fair, and if North win before Sydney their 5 rate at a higher value
You see these types of ratings systems in Tennis and Cricket rankings. Maybe there could be an official AFL style. Are you for or against something like this?
Team | Points |
Hawthorn | 2525 |
Carlton | 2478 |
Essendon | 2408 |
Collingwood | 2334 |
Richmond | 2221 |
Melbourne | 2008 |
Geelong | 1748 |
Fitzroy | 933 |
West Coast | 816 |
Sydney | 797 |
North Melbourne | 763 |
Brisbane | 618 |
Adelaide | 403 |
Western Bulldogs | 378 |
Port Adelaide | 208 |
St Kilda | 170 |
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