State can sell your home to developers

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Beyond belief. Of course there have never been corruption issues with councils and developers have there?

This just after the Woolongong council was sacked. No doubt will do wonders for ALP fundraising.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/state-can-sell-your-home/2008/04/18/1208025479556.html?page=2


THE State Government plans to give its agencies and councils power to compulsorily acquire private land to re-sell to developers at a profit - or, if they choose, at a reduced price so the developers make even more money.

Legal authorities describe as "quite remarkable" a section of new planning laws flagged by the Minister for Planning, Frank Sartor, to acquire land by force to onsell to private developers.

"A man's home may no longer be his castle, but it could well end up being somebody else's castle," said Anthony Whealy, a planning expert with Gadens Lawyers. "It will certainly be welcome news to many in the development game.

"Under the current law, the minister is not able to re-sell land which has been acquired or transfer it to another person. The new scheme expressly allows that, and makes it clear that it may be done as part of a profitable proposal by a private developer."

Mr Sartor insists the law will only be used to ensure developments for the greater public benefit cannot be blocked, but the Greens - who have helped to expose the extent of developers' donations to the Labor Party - say it could invite corruption.

"Given the whole stench surrounding developer donations, it lends added weight to the view that this Government is introducing the most developer-friendly laws ever seen in this state," the Greens MP Sylvia Hale said.

A similar US state law to transfer land from one private owner to another for an urban renewal plan in New London, Connecticut, caused national uproar several years ago. In 2005, the US Supreme Court upheld the law by the narrowest of margins but it was widely criticised as a gross violation of property rights and 42 states passed laws to limit the impact of the court's decision.

A provision in the draft bill released by Mr Sartor last week arises from similar circumstances. Last year Parramatta City Council sought to compulsorily acquire three properties, with Mr Sartor's approval, to allow its $1.4 billion Civic Place redevelopment. The land would have ended up in the ownership of the developer Grocon.

The Land and Environment Court upheld an appeal by the two owners against the acquisition. Now the minister wants to override that ruling and give himself the power to acquire land to transfer to another private owner, and to delegate such power to councils and state agencies such as Landcom, for the purposes of urban renewal and land releases.

The power would extend to land that "adjoins or lies in the vicinity of" such projects. It could be sold "whether for profit or otherwise" with the only constraint being that in the opinion of the designated authority there is a "net public benefit". But Gadens says this is not defined anywhere on the legal statutes. "Inevitably this will lead to a purely subjective determination of whether a proposal amounts to a net public benefit," Mr Whealy said.

Alex Davidson, who owns land suitable for subdivision on Sydney's outskirts at Glenorie, is fearful of the proposed law.

"That provision, if enacted, will end any pretence that owners actually 'own' land in NSW. It will enable the Government to force a landowner to sell … then sell, perhaps cheaply, to a favoured son waiting in the wings," Mr Davidson said. "It is an absolutely unacceptable elevation of state power over private property rights and will greatly exacerbate the potential for corruption. It is an abuse of power for the Government, when faced with being unable to get their way because the judge upheld ownership rights, to simply change the law so they win next time."

Mr Sartor's spokeswoman said it followed two court cases that might have frustrated good planning. The first concerned Parramatta's "award-winning" Civic Place project.

"In the second, City of Sydney Council's existing provision that removes cars from Pitt Street Mall may have been jeopardised through the inability to acquire an adjacent easement to allow vehicle movements into a proposed development site."

The ability to compulsorily acquire land for "important public outcomes" had been a longstanding, accepted practice for Government.

"It is also established practice to offer for sale any residual land which may be left over after the completion of a project, such as a new road or railway line.

"Importantly, the acquisition of land for such purposes would only be authorised after all other avenues have failed and after appropriate public exhibition and consideration."

Anyone could challenge any determination by the minister or the acquiring authority, including on the issue of net public benefit, in court.
 
Mr Sartor insists the law will only be used to ensure developments for the greater public benefit cannot be blocked, but the Greens - who have helped to expose the extent of developers' donations to the Labor Party - say it could invite corruption.

This guy must seriously think we all came down in the last shower to believe this drivel.

Again this shows the utter contempt that this State govt has for the general public.

The NSW Govt. are the developers best friend.
 
This guy must seriously think we all came down in the last shower to believe this drivel.

Again this shows the utter contempt that this State govt has for the general public.

The NSW Govt. are the developers best friend.

Cant believe noone is interested in this

Cant think of a single worse piece of govt policy in the last 20 years (and there have been a few corkers)
 

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This is gunna fly. :rolleyes: Another reason why we should get rid of councils, too much cronyism, too high salaries for the amount (or lack of amount) or work they do. If we got rid of councils right now, we wouldn't be much worse off, think of all the money we'd save though.
 
With due respect I think you will find that Government has always had the power to take over private property

Yes but thats under different circumstances ie for infrastructure. I dont think they were able to force you to sell to private companies.
 
It sounds like NSW is becoming our own little version of Mexico.

I never thought I would say this about any Labor government, the Iemma government needs to be sent out on its ear. It is in Labor's best interests and in NSW's best interests.

The only real fear is that the Libs will be as bad. The pattern has been set now.
 
did anyone actually watch The Castle? various government agencies have always had the power to aquire privately owned land (whether it be for infrastructure or development). I know for example the SA Housing Trust has it written into their act. Doesn’t mean that used excessively (hardly ever in SA) and that there is not process in place to stop it from being abused.
 
It sounds like NSW is becoming our own little version of Mexico.

I never thought I would say this about any Labor government, the Iemma government needs to be sent out on its ear. It is in Labor's best interests and in NSW's best interests.

The only real fear is that the Libs will be as bad. The pattern has been set now.

Both liberal and labor state governments are jokes these days, all they seem to fight about is who can run state services and provide state services better.

The answer, neither can, both are as bad as each other. I literally have no idea who to vote for next election, no ideological lines (those went out of state politics a long time ago) so what is it over? Not much, not much of a difference.

If anyone can tell me how I can pick between Brumby and Ballieu, thanks in advance.
 

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With due respect I think you will find that Government has always had the power to take over private property

Correct but only for a road, a bridge or some other predetermined 'government owned structure' they could never buy it and give it to Westfields or even change the use it was aquired for
 
Similar sort of thing happening here in Tasmania. Gunns can't compulsorily acquire land for the water pipeline to their pulp mill. Surprise, surprise Emperor Lennon says the pipeline may be critical infrastructure and the Government may pay for it, and they can acquire for this purpose.

He's even got someone in the Government investigating the potential benefits to find a way for it to happen.

Nothing like donations to political parties buying influence is there.:D
 
Cant believe noone is interested in this

Cant think of a single worse piece of govt policy in the last 20 years (and there have been a few corkers)

I guess it's because not many posters come from NSW. It's almost enough for me to be thankful for the government we have in VIC. Well almost.
 
Similar sort of thing happening here in Tasmania. Gunns can't compulsorily acquire land for the water pipeline to their pulp mill. Surprise, surprise Emperor Lennon says the pipeline may be critical infrastructure and the Government may pay for it, and they can acquire for this purpose.

Which is typical of such legislation. Its far removed from acquiring land and giving it to developers.

Which no doubt is why new rather than existing planning laws are being referred to.
 
Similar sort of thing happening here in Tasmania. Gunns can't compulsorily acquire land for the water pipeline to their pulp mill. Surprise, surprise Emperor Lennon says the pipeline may be critical infrastructure and the Government may pay for it, and they can acquire for this purpose.

He's even got someone in the Government investigating the potential benefits to find a way for it to happen.

Nothing like donations to political parties buying influence is there.:D

I think the difference is here the implication is that the property can be sold to a developer to build another house or worse, maybe just resell your house.

Tasmania's agreement with Gunns may be poor but at least the issue of critical infrastructure can be argued. In this case it is purely about making profit so one orginisation can by your house on the cheap and sell it for larger profit. The free market is getting screwed.

If they want your house to build another house they can damn well pay what you expect them to pay for it.
 

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