Stopping the Flood - A solution

[Bestbird]

Here's a way to stop it - I've said this before - kick the thing long, over the flood. No stufing around with short passes. First option is long..and the longer, the better. Find a flood that could stop it.

If a team starts from a centre ballup with all bar 2 players backward of the there centre line as was the case last Saturday night

It is pretty difficult to go over the flood

With this type of setup the 2 forwards in the team have to take most of there chances to win as it means the ball is mostly in there flooded defense as was the case.

I doubt Roo's would try that set up without a Barry Hall in the side. Just as pagans paddock only worked because of Carey

 

[DanA]

i'm still trying to decide if the innitial post is a **** take or not... FF, R1? come off it- that is the stupidest thing i've ever heard.

i'm as big an eagles man as ur likely to find- but there was no flood in last weeks game. do sydney crowd me around the ball? yes, but thats not a flood.

and the talk about sydney dropping men behind the ball and whoosha manning them up was more a case of questionable coaching by worsfold i thought- especially when west coast were in the lead!

You are argeeing that Roos flooded. You are just saying that Roos only did it because he new Worsfold would deal with it badly in a situation where he did not need too.

No argument there. Irrespect of Roos' reasons he still flooded. He dropped men back into the Westcoast forwardline. That is the the essense of flooding.

I personally thought it was a great game won because of superior coaching. But dont serve me dogshyte and call it caviar. It was flooding

 

[Hadders]

A flood could be undone through the use of attacking "corridors", a flying wedge of 3-4 players running at goal at speed ,handballing where neccessary, blocking ,shepparding the ball carrier till he got a shot at goal .

If I'm reading this correctly you are calling for the 'Flying V' from The Mighty Ducks? Hey it worked in the movie, why wouldn't it work in AFL?

 

[floki]

Talk about the world going full circle , Eade was the man who had a hand in creating flooding and now he's leading the tactics to dismantle it ,by daring to win. He's obviously a footy visionary ,whats his next trick going to be ?

 

[DanA]

If I'm reading this correctly you are calling for the 'Flying V' from The Mighty Ducks? Hey it worked in the movie, why wouldn't it work in AFL?

Doggies are the master of the flying V

 

[Hadders]

Doggies are the master of the flying V

Don't call it that or they'll have a Disney lawsuit on their hands.

 

[floki]

If I'm reading this correctly you are calling for the 'Flying V' from The Mighty Ducks? Hey it worked in the movie, why wouldn't it work in AFL?

Historically speaking i was think ancient roman tactics but your not allowed to take shields ,javelins and swords onto the playing fields nowdays but i hope you get my idea
Thinking of putting in for the job at the saints , you interested in the assistants position

 

[Furn]

flooding is a media word tis made up for something to talk about. What happens in footy is called zoning off it happens in all ball sports and all these netball style, u cant go here ,and u cant go there, is no solution. what they should do is have an illegal defence rule like in the nba, where theres a 20 or 25 m zone like the goal square but bigger where a defender cant sit with out an oppontent for a cetain time, then the bomb to the square will come back, cos theres nothing exciting about little 15 m kicks to leading forwards 40 out which is what zonong mostly prevents

 

[Bestbird]

Talk about the world going full circle , Eade was the man who had a hand in creating flooding and now he's leading the tactics to dismantle it ,by daring to win. He's obviously a footy visionary ,whats his next trick going to be ?

Although against WCE in round 13 he reverted back to it

But yes, Eade and Worsfold (despite the recent critisism) are the leaders in trying to beat the flooding type tactics instead of following suit as other have done.

 

[Bloods Rule!]

Although against WCE in round 13 he reverted back to it

But yes, Eade and Worsfold (despite the recent critisism) are the leaders in trying to beat the flooding type tactics instead of following suit as other have done.

The leaders in beating the flood are the Tigers v the Crows. You have to admire the Tiger cubs playing kick to kick because the Crows had packed their forward line and refused to come out and man up. Fascinating (but awful) game to watch.

If you do that - the flood has to end as the flooding team will never see the ball until they man up.

There are enough intelligent poster on this site that I can't work out why the flooding myth remains so strong about the Swans. Let's go for very simple and see if anyone sees the lightbulb come on.

If you flood, you are a loose man in defence. By definition, you have left your opponent so he's free too. Watch a Swans' game and see how often any of its opponents are left to run free. That's why Swans' games have so much congestion around the ball - the opposition never get free of their Swans' player. You may not like the game but it's NOT flooding.

Personally, I love watching the tough man on man games of the Swans. When I watch a lot of other teams, I find myself yelling "who the hell was meant to be on him?" Footy is meant to be a contest, not a freeform sprint as so many seem to want.

 

[Hap Hapablap]

If the players are all in WCE defence, that of course is WCE flooding, not Swans.

Just to be clear.

mistake i meant wce forward line.

 

[section8]

Flooding - tactic of moving majority of players from their traditional area on the ground to one specific area to restrict the flow of play, win stoppages through superior numbers or provide space among other reasons. Flooding can occur forward, back, centre or around the ball.

 

[Furn]

flooding is still a term only used in afl

 

[Bestbird]

The leaders in beating the flood are the Tigers v the Crows. You have to admire the Tiger cubs playing kick to kick because the Crows had packed their forward line and refused to come out and man up. Fascinating (but awful) game to watch.

If you do that - the flood has to end as the flooding team will never see the ball until they man up.

There are enough intelligent poster on this site that I can't work out why the flooding myth remains so strong about the Swans. Let's go for very simple and see if anyone sees the lightbulb come on.

If you flood, you are a loose man in defence. By definition, you have left your opponent so he's free too. Watch a Swans' game and see how often any of its opponents are left to run free. That's why Swans' games have so much congestion around the ball - the opposition never get free of their Swans' player. You may not like the game but it's NOT flooding.

Personally, I love watching the tough man on man games of the Swans. When I watch a lot of other teams, I find myself yelling "who the hell was meant to be on him?" Footy is meant to be a contest, not a freeform sprint as so many seem to want.

Well i was at the game the last week

If at a centre bounce set up you have 2 players in your forward line. The required amount in the centre square and the rest in defence

What do you call that.

 

[Syd]

Well i was at the game the last week

If at a centre bounce set up you have 2 players in your forward line. The required amount in the centre square and the rest in defence

What do you call that.

A winning formula.

 

[Sir_Adrian84]

flooding is still a term only used in afl

maybe because in other sports, flooding is the game

 

[King Elvis]

My only comment is that I believe is up to the Coaches to come up with ways to beat the flood, not the Rule Committee.

The game is a constantly evolving thing - flooding is part of that, and we've already seen different tactics this year to beat the flood.

I'd prefer to see a good Coach beat a flood by some good tactics, than to see a **** coach beat the flood because the rules make it easy to do so.

 

[FixterFan]

Flooding - tactic of moving majority of players from their traditional area on the ground to one specific area to restrict the flow of play, win stoppages through superior numbers or provide space among other reasons. Flooding can occur forward, back, centre or around the ball.

Mate, that definition is so broad you can fit practically any strategy into it. Try not to move the goalposts, please.

 

[graystar]

The real danger of knee jerk rule changes is it will have unintended consequences.

The beauty of AFL is there is no "offside" rule, there are no zone rules. It is a massive patch of grass with two goals at each end, and the rest is up to you.

Let the game sort itself out. No one is arguing to bring back the drop kick are they?

 

[section8]

Mate, that definition is so broad you can fit practically any strategy into it. Try not to move the goalposts, please.

I want to ensure that tactics that are sanitised by referring to them as "tempo", or "hard,contested,accountable footy " are connotated negatively by linking them to "flooding". In essence, this is what they are. As per flooding, they both have the intention of purposely creating congestion or causing stoppages on a specific part of the ground.

 

[Timbothecat]

Stacking your own backline, trying to cause a turnover in your own backline, and then ... yes ... moving it as quickly out of defence and fast break into your own vacant forward line is CLASSIC flooding tactics.

Moving it quickly out of defence is an essential part of the whole flooding gameplan.

Years ago, this same gameplan used to be called "Pagan's paddock".

How the hell did you miss the fact that I said DON'T DO IT YOURSELF. What that means is you DON"T drop extra numbers behind the ball. How is that classic flooding? With what I'm talking about you keep your forward line structure, you don't cram the opposition forward line with 12 players and then make a fast break in waves up the field. Please show me where I stated otherwise!

 

[nicky]

A winning formula.

 

[coasting]

There is no solution. The Flood is the future! and I expect the two best flooding teams, the Swans & the Crows, to play off in the GF.

 

[Svenny]

players can flood because they are so fit these days.....these players are fine tuned athletes that can seriously run

maybe limiting the number of interchanges you can make would help slow the game a tad and wouldnt allow guys to flood as much because players would be more tierd...thats the only solution I see

 

[woosh_era]

There is no solution. The Flood is the future!

So you are saying that Australian Rules will soon resemble bulldog / rugby with two packs of 12 running at each other?

D M F
12 4 2
vs
2 4 12


yay, cant wait