Training Summer Footy Fix - 2022 training watch

[Slainte]

Looking in shape and being in shape are totally different things. For some people, the effort involved in getting their bodyfat that low would be deleterious to their performance. Andrew Gaff is one of the best endurance runners in the competition and he's hardly the poster boy for muscle definition.

Exactly. Some people have difficulty distinguishing between sport and male modelling. Jonny Bairstow is a very capable international cricketer and is positively rotund. You judge a sportsman on his performance not his appearance. If Impey is getting PBs on repeat sprints, that is more than enough for me at this stage of the pre-season.

 

[Slainte]

I'll try and be as generous as I can on this.
I agree with your first premise, and certainly some players have shown they can succeed with non standard body types.

To my specific post, let me expand (lol).

Darren Jarman could have been the greatest footballer of all time. As in, Jordan esqe. Clearly the best.
When he arrived at Hawthorn, and I was hanging over the boundary at the time, he was not exactly a great trainer.
In fact, he never became what you'd call a great trainer, however in his first few seasons with us he worked hard enough to change his body type and athletic ability considerably. He played fairly lean and had that stange ability to not look like he was going but still keep clear of an opponent and could put in a giddy up when he sensed it to create a gap that gave him extra time. He covered ground, could get up for a hanger, had endless time, the ball on a string, footskills that have never been approached, was in short a supercar in amongst luxury sports brands and made them look average or at least a level below.
But he couldn't sustain an interest in working that hard in training, or in monitoring what he ate, and over a couple seasons started to pack it on in a way he couldn't quite reverse over summer pre-seasons.
He was still glorious with the ball in hand, but the change was significant enough it caused uncomfortable discussions in Hawthorn management who were ALL about elite efforts and training and couldn't happily accept the endomorph Darren leaned towards being.

Darren didn't like the Hawthorn push back, and Hawthorn didn't want to back down.
And Jarman went home largely because of it. It wasn't missing home or his brother, it was where he could sit at fullforward for Adelaide and rely on his brilliant ability and little else. Adelaide/Blight sold him that they'd take him however he wanted to come and that was enough.

That's not a pathway any elite Club would countenance today.

I'm not suggesting at all that Impey is down that road significantly or irrevocably, however considering the enormous amount of time he's missed at the Club through injury and how long he's had to prepare for this offseason, he's one player i had imagined turning up in A triple plus condition. To give himself the absolute best chance of making all he can of the back end of his career.

Since Imp has been at our Club I've seen him in a variety of playing physical conditions, and even ever slightly rounded he's got lots to offer.
I've also seen him very lean and conditioned so it's not as if he's NEVER been able to shed weight and achieve an 'athletes' low skin fold shape.

Guess some don't like any takes at all during offseason based on observations that aren't simply full spin positive, and if that's all I gave I'd get it.
But over my posting history I'm largely a pump up red hot Hawthorn fan, believing always in the team/Club's ability to return to a place of relevance.
Notice I say Club and not player or coach. I love both when they are of positive value to the football Club, and am happy to move on to the next when it is clear the Club cannot achieve it's aims standing where they were.

I reckon Impey will be fine, but pointing out how he looks condition wise regardless of whether it's in a T or not - guess what so are all the other players who are physically ripped and look it - as he tries to re-establish himself seems a fair post at this time of the year.

But I guess we could talk about Covid/Jeff/Clarko's everlasting effect on the team instead if everyone prefers.

Adelaide/Blight got it right and we got it wrong. Case closed.

 

[Slainte]

PS - good thing we had learned our lesson from the Jarman nonsense by the time we picked up Stewie Dew who was the incredible blob.

 

[BIGHAWK23]

But seriously

Anyone got any reports

 

[flinchfree]

Adelaide/Blight got it right and we got it wrong. Case closed.

Lol

 

[Gut Runner]

But seriously

Anyone got any reports

What are the training days? Times?

 

[Buttonsticher]

What are the training days? Times?

I'm guessing by how many times this has been asked and not answered its a secret, guarded for generations by immortal mythical knights sworn to not saying shit or suffer the penalty of perpetually driving around trying to source a rapid antigen test. But seriously does anybody know anything about launch codes

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[NicG]

I'm guessing by how many times this has been asked and not answered its a secret, guarded for generations by immortal mythical knights sworn to not saying sh*t or suffer the penalty of perpetually driving around trying to source a rapid antigen test. But seriously does anybody know anything about launch codes?

But why should it be secret? How many people live literally around the outskirts of the ground? Not to mention all those who exercise there. Which is what I'm looking to do. Would be nice to have something to glance at occasionally to alleviate the boredom.

If anyone does know the training schedule for the next few weeks, but doesn't feel comfortable posting it here, can they please let me know via PM?
[obviously I promise not to publicize it]

 

[Dewnior]

If anyone does know the training schedule for the next few weeks, but doesn't feel comfortable posting it here, can they please let me know via PM?
[obviously I promise not to publicize it]

I could tell you via PM, but then I'd have to kill you.

 

[tommyk72]

I could tell you via PM, but then I'd have to kill you.

I reckon by the time you work out who he/she it, they could get down to training and post a report in advance of being killed.

So I’m fully in favour of you sharing that info.

 

[Brant]

I could tell you via PM, but then I'd have to kill you.

Worth it

 

[Bugs1977]

I'll try and be as generous as I can on this.
I agree with your first premise, and certainly some players have shown they can succeed with non standard body types.

To my specific post, let me expand (lol).

Darren Jarman could have been the greatest footballer of all time. As in, Jordan esqe. Clearly the best.
When he arrived at Hawthorn, and I was hanging over the boundary at the time, he was not exactly a great trainer.
In fact, he never became what you'd call a great trainer, however in his first few seasons with us he worked hard enough to change his body type and athletic ability considerably. He played fairly lean and had that stange ability to not look like he was going but still keep clear of an opponent and could put in a giddy up when he sensed it to create a gap that gave him extra time. He covered ground, could get up for a hanger, had endless time, the ball on a string, footskills that have never been approached, was in short a supercar in amongst luxury sports brands and made them look average or at least a level below.
But he couldn't sustain an interest in working that hard in training, or in monitoring what he ate, and over a couple seasons started to pack it on in a way he couldn't quite reverse over summer pre-seasons.
He was still glorious with the ball in hand, but the change was significant enough it caused uncomfortable discussions in Hawthorn management who were ALL about elite efforts and training and couldn't happily accept the endomorph Darren leaned towards being.

Darren didn't like the Hawthorn push back, and Hawthorn didn't want to back down.
And Jarman went home largely because of it. It wasn't missing home or his brother, it was where he could be who he wanted and eventually just sit at fullforward for Adelaide and rely on his brilliant ability and little else. Adelaide sold him that they'd take him however he wanted to come and that was enough.

That's not a pathway any elite Club would countenance today.

I'm not suggesting at all that Impey is down that road significantly or irrevocably, however considering the enormous amount of time he's missed at the Club through injury and how long he's had to prepare for this offseason, he's one player i had imagined turning up in A triple plus condition. To give himself the absolute best chance of making all he can of the back end of his career.

Since Imp has been at our Club I've seen him in a variety of playing physical conditions, and even ever slightly rounded he's got lots to offer.
I've also seen him very lean and conditioned so it's not as if he's NEVER been able to shed weight and achieve an 'athletes' low skin fold shape.

Guess some don't like any takes at all during offseason based on observations that aren't simply full spin positive, and if that's all I gave I'd get it.
But over my posting history I'm largely a pump up red hot Hawthorn fan, believing always in the team/Club's ability to return to a place of relevance.
Notice I say Club and not player or coach. I love both when they are of positive value to the football Club, and am happy to move on to the next when it is clear the Club cannot achieve it's aims standing where they were.

I reckon Impey will be fine, but pointing out how he looks condition wise regardless of whether it's in a T or not - guess what so are all the other players who are physically ripped and look it - as he tries to re-establish himself seems a fair post at this time of the year.

But I guess we could talk about Covid/Jeff/Clarko's everlasting effect on the team instead if everyone prefers.

I understand what you are trying to say but maybe just maybe that photo didn’t do him justice. Just a thought.

 

[Bugs1977]

Adelaide/Blight got it right and we got it wrong. Case closed.

I was gutted when it happened. Jarman ‘the barman’ was a god to me. The things that man could do with ball in hand was ridiculous. He was like Speedster from X-men where everything / everyone else slowed down as he went on merry way doing whatever he liked.

 

[matey]

Was out watching the boys today in camouflage ……. they went bush and were laser tagging!

 

[Gut Runner]

I'm guessing by how many times this has been asked and not answered its a secret, guarded for generations by immortal mythical knights sworn to not saying sh*t or suffer the penalty of perpetually driving around trying to source a rapid antigen test. But seriously does anybody know anything about launch codes

On SM-N960F using BigFooty.com mobile app

People want reports, but won't tell the training days/times?

 

[Roger Rogerson]

Ring the club.

 

[cryptor]

People want reports, but won't tell the training days/times?

I last went about 7 years ago. From memory it was Mon, Wed, Fri and they started filtering out from as early as 8am. Thing is maybe it could be later if they have an early meeting run late, or not at all if they go off-site and do something else.

Basically rock up early one of those days and cross your fingers.

 

[BigLittleHawk]

Well, I'm going to just ascribe it to Imps having my dreaded disease of looking fat in photographs.
My inner thin man never seems to materialize when the damn shutter goes click.

I'm similar...
I'm a trans-slender.
I'm fat, but I identify as skinny.

 

[Gut Runner]

I last went about 7 years ago. From memory it was Mon, Wed, Fri and they started filtering out from as early as 8am. Thing is maybe it could be later if they have an early meeting run late, or not at all if they go off-site and do something else.

Basically rock up early one of those days and cross your fingers.

Thanks - I was thinking that maybe temperature might impact the start time too.

Hopefully get lucky with a full ground drill!!

 

[JaegarTime]

But seriously

Anyone got any reports

Impey is fat apparently

 

[The Spirit of Cricket]

these blokes look absolutely ****ing terrifying

 

[chopflop]

I'm similar...
I'm a trans-slender.
I'm fat, but I identify as skinny.

My weight is non-binary. The days I smash KFC i identify as fat and on salad days I identify as skinny.
Best of both worlds

 

[houdinihuddo]

Love the pics. What a great team bonding exercise.

Hawthorn Football Club

The official AFL website of the Hawthorn Football Club

www.hawthornfc.com.au

 

[Steven Tyler]

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these blokes look absolutely ******* terrifying

Terrifying?

I wouldn’t be able to keep a straight face looking at Frosty’s ears

 

[Delecate Des]

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these blokes look absolutely ******* terrifying

Someone please tag in IMissFrosty