Training Summer Footy Fix - 2022 training watch

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Notice those wounds on the centre knuckle of both hands? Has Sam been practicing for punching in some coaches box walls?
I noticed that too, and wondered who he’s been punching on with.
 

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There may be no footy but (I hope) the pre-Christmas 2.2km time trial will be run soon. If the new boys are included it will be one hell of a race for bragging rights.

Anyone care to try picking the order of the top 10?

Here is a form guide:


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[TD valign="top"]Combine[/TD][TD valign="top"]Hawks TT[/TD][TD valign="top"]Hawks TT[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]

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[TD valign="top"]2km Time Trial[/TD][TD valign="top"]2020[/TD][TD valign="top"]2021[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Maginness, Finn[/TD][TD valign="top"]5:51[/TD][TD valign="top"]1st[/TD][TD valign="top"]2nd[/TD][TD valign="top"]Covid shmovid[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Jiath, Changkuoth[/TD][TD valign="top"]6:17[/TD][TD valign="top"]2nd[/TD][TD valign="top"]1st[/TD][TD valign="top"]PCL injury may rule him out.[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Moore, Dylan[/TD][TD valign="top"]6:09[/TD][TD valign="top"]3rd[/TD][TD valign="top"]3rd[/TD][TD valign="top"]You can tell he wants the crown[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Downie, Connor[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]
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[TD valign="top"]4th[/TD][TD valign="top"]The big improver?[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Tom Phillips*[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]
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[TD valign="top"]5th[/TD][TD valign="top"]4 time winner at Collingwood[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Long, Ned[/TD][TD valign="top"]6:05[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]
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[TD valign="top"]Big boys can run[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Ward, Josh[/TD][TD valign="top"]5:57[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]
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[TD valign="top"]Not used to getting beaten[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]McDonald, Connor[/TD][TD valign="top"]6:08[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]
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[TD valign="top"]Out to prove a point?[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Butler, Sam[/TD][TD valign="top"]6:23[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]
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[TD valign="top"]Has the speed at the end if he can hold on[/TD]

Others to consider: Nash, Pup*, Worpel, Morrison, Day, Howe, McEvoy*
Smokies: Bramble, Newcombe, Saunders
* 24yrs and over unlikely to run pre-Christmas.
 
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There may be no footy but (I hope) the pre-Christmas 2.2km time trial will be run soon. If the new boys are included it will be one hell of a race for bragging rights.

Anyone care to try picking the order of top 10?

Here is a form guide:


[TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"]Combine[/TD][TD valign="top"]Hawks TT[/TD][TD valign="top"]Hawks TT[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]

[TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"]2km Time Trial[/TD][TD valign="top"]2020[/TD][TD valign="top"]2021[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Maginness, Finn[/TD][TD valign="top"]5:51[/TD][TD valign="top"]1st[/TD][TD valign="top"]2nd[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Jiath, Changkuoth[/TD][TD valign="top"]6:17[/TD][TD valign="top"]2nd[/TD][TD valign="top"]1st[/TD][TD valign="top"]PCL injury may rule him out.[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Moore, Dylan[/TD][TD valign="top"]6:09[/TD][TD valign="top"]3rd[/TD][TD valign="top"]3rd[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Downie, Connor[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"]4th[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Tom Phillips*[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"]5th[/TD][TD valign="top"]4 time winner at Collingwood[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Long, Ned[/TD][TD valign="top"]6:05[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"][/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Ward, Josh[/TD][TD valign="top"]5:57[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"][/TD]

[TD valign="top"]McDonald, Connor[/TD][TD valign="top"]6:08[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"][/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Butler, Sam[/TD][TD valign="top"]6:23[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"][/TD]

Others to consider: Nash, Pup*, Worpel, Morrison, Day, Howe, McEvoy*
Smokies: Bramble, Newcombe, Saunders
* 24yrs and over unlikely to run pre-Christmas.
Read an article that suggested mid 6s is good for an AFL mid and close to 6s is pure elite. Putting Ward's strava run into context, he is one of five players to go sub six since the test was introduced (i think)... Sharp, rantall, maginness, one Dee's bloke and Ward. No player in the top 10 has gone under six minutes (since 2017)

In other words, there are lots of good athletes who run very fast times, but it is rare to see someone with the legit football ability who can match these times.

For more context, Sam Walsh was probably the last pure footballing talent who was a freak freak runner. Ran a 6:07. Ward beat that time by 10 seconds. Walsh is now considered the strongest gut runner in the league. I think in his case it's probably more obvious how much he runs because he can also find the footy so it becomes more obvious how hard he is working. Ward can also find the footy... You see where I am going with this.
 
There may be no footy but (I hope) the pre-Christmas 2.2km time trial will be run soon. If the new boys are included it will be one hell of a race for bragging rights.

Anyone care to try picking the order of top 10?

Here is a form guide:


[TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"]Combine[/TD][TD valign="top"]Hawks TT[/TD][TD valign="top"]Hawks TT[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]

[TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"]2km Time Trial[/TD][TD valign="top"]2020[/TD][TD valign="top"]2021[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Maginness, Finn[/TD][TD valign="top"]5:51[/TD][TD valign="top"]1st[/TD][TD valign="top"]2nd[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Jiath, Changkuoth[/TD][TD valign="top"]6:17[/TD][TD valign="top"]2nd[/TD][TD valign="top"]1st[/TD][TD valign="top"]PCL injury may rule him out.[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Moore, Dylan[/TD][TD valign="top"]6:09[/TD][TD valign="top"]3rd[/TD][TD valign="top"]3rd[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Downie, Connor[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"]4th[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Tom Phillips*[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"]5th[/TD][TD valign="top"]4 time winner at Collingwood[/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Long, Ned[/TD][TD valign="top"]6:05[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"][/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Ward, Josh[/TD][TD valign="top"]5:57[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"][/TD]

[TD valign="top"]McDonald, Connor[/TD][TD valign="top"]6:08[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"][/TD]

[TD valign="top"]Butler, Sam[/TD][TD valign="top"]6:23[/TD][TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"][/TD]
[TD valign="top"][/TD]

Others to consider: Nash, Pup*, Worpel, Morrison, Day, Howe, McEvoy*
Smokies: Bramble, Newcombe, Saunders
* 24yrs and over unlikely to run pre-Christmas.

Finn's combine time is exactly why I reckon it shouldn't be close if he put in 100% - 5:51 is insane and by rights he should have improved on that since being in an elite environment.
 
Thx for the report guys. Can't wait watching the group gel and improve. I think our young fwd line needs Gunston's leadership and will improve quickly if he's there instructing them, when needed.
 
Read an article that suggested mid 6s is good for an AFL mid and close to 6s is pure elite. Putting Ward's strava run into context, he is one of five players to go sub six since the test was introduced (i think)... Sharp, rantall, maginness, one Dee's bloke and Ward. No player in the top 10 has gone under six minutes (since 2017)

In other words, there are lots of good athletes who run very fast times, but it is rare to see someone with the legit football ability who can match these times.

For more context, Sam Walsh was probably the last pure footballing talent who was a freak freak runner. Ran a 6:07. Ward beat that time by 10 seconds. Walsh is now considered the strongest gut runner in the league. I think in his case it's probably more obvious how much he runs because he can also find the footy so it becomes more obvious how hard he is working. Ward can also find the footy... You see where I am going with this.
I like where you are going with it.
Please finish the story. 😁
 
Jeka looks ready to claim CHF in 2022. Go Hawkas
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Wow - Jeka looks fully buff but it's his thighs that catch the eye. I think we're getting into Tom Hawkins territory there.

I wonder if Jeka's memory of being shunted off the line of the ball by Harrison Petty this year has driven some huge weight sessions.

I really think this guy can be a star - but he has to battle past Gunners, Lewis and Kosi for a spot (or can all 4 play if we go with 1 ruckman?).
 

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Wow - Jeka looks fully buff but it's his thighs that catch the eye. I think we're getting into Tom Hawkins territory there.

I wonder if Jeka's memory of being shunted off the line of the ball by Harrison Petty this year has driven some huge weight sessions.

I really think this guy can be a star - but he has to battle past Gunners, Lewis and Kosi for a spot (or can all 4 play if we go with 1 ruckman?).

I have been thinking about that as well, an i think Kosi could play Gunstons role on a half forward flank. Leaving FF for Lewis, CHF for Jeka and the likes of Wingard, Bruest and Brockman at there feet.
 
Read an article that suggested mid 6s is good for an AFL mid and close to 6s is pure elite. Putting Ward's strava run into context, he is one of five players to go sub six since the test was introduced (i think)... Sharp, rantall, maginness, one Dee's bloke and Ward. No player in the top 10 has gone under six minutes (since 2017)

In other words, there are lots of good athletes who run very fast times, but it is rare to see someone with the legit football ability who can match these times.

For more context, Sam Walsh was probably the last pure footballing talent who was a freak freak runner. Ran a 6:07. Ward beat that time by 10 seconds. Walsh is now considered the strongest gut runner in the league. I think in his case it's probably more obvious how much he runs because he can also find the footy so it becomes more obvious how hard he is working. Ward can also find the footy... You see where I am going with this.
It’s because they have to put on a heap of muscle in the AFL system, their bodies aren’t tailored to just run 2km time trials.
 
It’s because they have to put on a heap of muscle in the AFL system, their bodies aren’t tailored to just run 2km time trials.
Indeed. Comparing U18 times makes the comparison valid though. Comparing times of 18s vs seasoned AFL players is more flawed.
 
Wow - Jeka looks fully buff but it's his thighs that catch the eye. I think we're getting into Tom Hawkins territory there.

I wonder if Jeka's memory of being shunted off the line of the ball by Harrison Petty this year has driven some huge weight sessions.

I really think this guy can be a star - but he has to battle past Gunners, Lewis and Kosi for a spot (or can all 4 play if we go with 1 ruckman?).
Jeez good catch, he definitely hadn't grown in to his man body yet last year... Has the talent as does Lewis, if they can bring in a better package this season look out
 
I have been thinking about that as well, an i think Kosi could play Gunstons role on a half forward flank. Leaving FF for Lewis, CHF for Jeka and the likes of Wingard, Bruest and Brockman at there feet.
Or he could end up going back and pairing with DGB for the next 10 years.
 
The thing that frustrates me about this thread it makes me dare to dream every year. But by golly i've been waiting for mitch lewis to develop a rig like that, jeka looks a unit, chopflop 's theory on ward has me gasping for air, I dont know where to look i need a lie down
And get ready for Denver, bramble and Brockman after a full pre season
 
Wow - Jeka looks fully buff but it's his thighs that catch the eye. I think we're getting into Tom Hawkins territory there.

I wonder if Jeka's memory of being shunted off the line of the ball by Harrison Petty this year has driven some huge weight sessions.

I really think this guy can be a star - but he has to battle past Gunners, Lewis and Kosi for a spot (or can all 4 play if we go with 1 ruckman?).
Ahem! I think you mean T Croad territory! We don't talk about Hawkins unless he's doing something dumb.

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