Sunil Gavaskar

[DIG]

I don't know how long you've followed cricket, but I've been watching, reading and listening for over 40 years. If you think the Australians invented "bully" tactics, you're very much mistaken.

I recall as a boy the Aussies getting beaten up and intimidated by John Snow, pounded by the arrogant South Africans, and screwed by cheating umpires and disgraceful facilities in India. Later on they suffered at the hands of the West Indies, their brutal attack and ruthless attitude Clive Lloyd openly admitted he "stole" from Ian Chappell when he had Lillee and Thomson at his disposal.

The earliest occasion where tactics such as these were deployed were the Bodyline series where Jardine stacked the leg side and bowled at the batsmen instead of the stumps.

The past decade it has been Australia's turn. We've been on top and grinded other teams into the ground as other countries has done to Australia in years gone by. I am always amused by naive people who think the Aussies are the only ones out there using intimidatory tactics.

In Test cricket there is a time when you serve it up, and a time when you take it. It's not Australia's law, it's the way Test cricket is played the world over.

Australia have been magnificent, and all those people who have wasted their time bitching about Australia's dominance have missed out on something special ... and they will be the same people bitching that the Aussies don't seem to be as good as they used to be.

As for the Channel 9 commentary team, you appear to have left out names such as Holding, Shastri, Boycott, Lloyd, players from all over the world etc, etc, etc, .... not all Australians.

Best post i've read in a long time.

 

[King Elvis]

I'm loving Mark Waugh's work - he's happy to listen to other people, but if he disagrees, he's more than happy to strongly put his counter-view forward.

 

[cozmoz]

Oh yes we do.

you don't, he is racist and biased beyond imagination, his comments/commentary on indian television and his pieces in indian newspapers/magazines are a billion times more derogatory to australia compared to his commentary on channel 9 or on ipl and tours such as these when he knows that several australian cricket fans are listening his commentary directly.

 

[Made4September]

I'm don't want to buy into the racist part of the arguement, but by all means, we're witnessing some very biassed commentary from Sunil.

I was however deeply dissapointed with the claim he made, that Sub Continental players weere being pinged for breaching the rules/code of conduct, and no one else was. The way it sounded to me, was as if he was claiming that being Subcontinental was the reason they were getting done, if thats the case, he's deeply mistaken.

You get done for breaching the Code of Conduct just for that, Breaching the Code of Conduct, not because you're black, white, brown, blue, purple, or green!

 

[cozmoz]

I'm don't want to buy into the racist part of the arguement, but by all means, we're witnessing some very biassed commentary from Sunil.

I was however deeply dissapointed with the claim he made, that Sub Continental players weere being pinged for breaching the rules/code of conduct, and no one else was. The way it sounded to me, was as if he was claiming that being Subcontinental was the reason they were getting done, if thats the case, he's deeply mistaken.

You get done for breaching the Code of Conduct just for that, Breaching the Code of Conduct, not because you're black, white, brown, blue, purple, or green!

i am an indian and believe me, gavaskar is a racist and why would there be bias towards the white when a majority running cricket are brown/black and here in india, the irony is that people with a fair complexion(north indians) are considered superior in a way than people with a dark complexion(south indians) and hence fairness creams are very popular

 

[Copernicus]

I don't know how long you've followed cricket, but I've been watching, reading and listening for over 40 years. If you think the Australians invented "bully" tactics, you're very much mistaken.

I recall as a boy the Aussies getting beaten up and intimidated by John Snow, pounded by the arrogant South Africans, and screwed by cheating umpires and disgraceful facilities in India. Later on they suffered at the hands of the West Indies, their brutal attack and ruthless attitude Clive Lloyd openly admitted he "stole" from Ian Chappell when he had Lillee and Thomson at his disposal.

The earliest occasion where tactics such as these were deployed were the Bodyline series where Jardine stacked the leg side and bowled at the batsmen instead of the stumps.

The past decade it has been Australia's turn. We've been on top and grinded other teams into the ground as other countries has done to Australia in years gone by. I am always amused by naive people who think the Aussies are the only ones out there using intimidatory tactics.

In Test cricket there is a time when you serve it up, and a time when you take it. It's not Australia's law, it's the way Test cricket is played the world over.

Australia have been magnificent, and all those people who have wasted their time bitching about Australia's dominance have missed out on something special ... and they will be the same people bitching that the Aussies don't seem to be as good as they used to be.

As for the Channel 9 commentary team, you appear to have left out names such as Holding, Shastri, Boycott, Lloyd, players from all over the world etc, etc, etc, .... not all Australians.

You talk sense. Pity more people won't see it for what it is.

 

[Kingpin]

I don't know how long you've followed cricket, but I've been watching, reading and listening for over 40 years. If you think the Australians invented "bully" tactics, you're very much mistaken.

I recall as a boy the Aussies getting beaten up and intimidated by John Snow, pounded by the arrogant South Africans, and screwed by cheating umpires and disgraceful facilities in India. Later on they suffered at the hands of the West Indies, their brutal attack and ruthless attitude Clive Lloyd openly admitted he "stole" from Ian Chappell when he had Lillee and Thomson at his disposal.

The earliest occasion where tactics such as these were deployed were the Bodyline series where Jardine stacked the leg side and bowled at the batsmen instead of the stumps.

The past decade it has been Australia's turn. We've been on top and grinded other teams into the ground as other countries has done to Australia in years gone by. I am always amused by naive people who think the Aussies are the only ones out there using intimidatory tactics.

In Test cricket there is a time when you serve it up, and a time when you take it. It's not Australia's law, it's the way Test cricket is played the world over.

Australia have been magnificent, and all those people who have wasted their time bitching about Australia's dominance have missed out on something special ... and they will be the same people bitching that the Aussies don't seem to be as good as they used to be.

As for the Channel 9 commentary team, you appear to have left out names such as Holding, Shastri, Boycott, Lloyd, players from all over the world etc, etc, etc, .... not all Australians.

You just articulated just about everything I was thinking on the subject

 

[arzach]

I don't know how long you've followed cricket, but I've been watching, reading and listening for over 40 years. If you think the Australians invented "bully" tactics, you're very much mistaken.

I recall as a boy the Aussies getting beaten up and intimidated by John Snow, pounded by the arrogant South Africans, and screwed by cheating umpires and disgraceful facilities in India. Later on they suffered at the hands of the West Indies, their brutal attack and ruthless attitude Clive Lloyd openly admitted he "stole" from Ian Chappell when he had Lillee and Thomson at his disposal.

The earliest occasion where tactics such as these were deployed were the Bodyline series where Jardine stacked the leg side and bowled at the batsmen instead of the stumps.

The past decade it has been Australia's turn. We've been on top and grinded other teams into the ground as other countries has done to Australia in years gone by. I am always amused by naive people who think the Aussies are the only ones out there using intimidatory tactics.

In Test cricket there is a time when you serve it up, and a time when you take it. It's not Australia's law, it's the way Test cricket is played the world over.

Australia have been magnificent, and all those people who have wasted their time bitching about Australia's dominance have missed out on something special ... and they will be the same people bitching that the Aussies don't seem to be as good as they used to be.

As for the Channel 9 commentary team, you appear to have left out names such as Holding, Shastri, Boycott, Lloyd, players from all over the world etc, etc, etc, .... not all Australians.

Excellent post. I think people have short memories (or rose coloured ones) and generally have a poor understanding of the dynamics of test cricket.

I was amazed at the number of comments during last summers witch hunt, lambasting Australia for not behaving like the previous cricket powerhouse, the West Indies. Apparently the West Indies dynasty was respected and revered for their amazing prowess and sportsmanlike behaviour. Nothing like the brutish, unsporting sooks during Australia’s period of dominance.

I’m not entirely sure what alternate dimension this angelic West Indian team played in?

As for Gavaskar, he was an exceptional batsmen, but that’s about all he’s got going for him. The only other thing he’s exceptional at, is being a c***

 

[jacko57]

He strikes me as one of those people who're glad they're "coloured" so they can blame everything on racism and get away with it.

That'sa terrible thing to say!

Unfortunately, it's spot-on.

 

[cozmoz]

go to google and read some of gavaskar garbage on yahoo, thatscricket, sify, dreamcricket, sportstar, hindustan times

he says that some of aussie players spit on their palms all the time and no body wants to shake hands with them coz of a hygeine issue

i am an indian but i have had enough of this rubbish, only in india(and the sub continent)do people dig noses in public, spit saliva and pan(see its meaning on google)in public, peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee in public

of the aussie players, only ricky ponting has this thing of spitting and that too ocassionally but gavaskar's comment which i have written above is shared by many indians

it is amazing that he says does gavaskar that everything india is great and everything australia is rubbish, yet no australian comes to live anywhere in the sub continent and any no of people from india run to live in australia

do people not realize that he is a racist?he is biased and an idiot, a moron.

 

[LIONS then DAYLIGHT]

So what if Ponting spits on his hands?

He has been doing it for years and i have never heard anyone complain or mention it.

It is obviously a habit so what?

How is it diffferent then half the team applying salvia to the ball to keep it shiny.

 

[cozmoz]

So what if Ponting spits on his hands?

He has been doing it for years and i have never heard anyone complain or mention it.

It is obviously a habit so what?

How is it diffferent then half the team applying salvia to the ball to keep it shiny.

it is just rubbish dished out by sunil gavaskar, mukul kesavan and many indians about ponting, nothing more

btw, gavaskar also wrote yesterday that the aussie team never claps when an opposition player scores a 100 or takes a 5 wicket haul but the indians are first to do it, which is another case of gavaskar garbage

sunil gavaskar needs to learn something from his son rohan who is an ordinary cricketer and at times says stupid things but has some class

sunil gavaskar has none

for me the most difficult thing is to look at the rubbish the moron ian chappell is constantly dishing out regarding aussie cricketers on indian channel neo
cricket

he is neil harvey part 2 and warne is neil harvey part 3

 

[LIONS then DAYLIGHT]

Yeah Ian Chappell, Shane Warne and Sunil Gavaskar would defintely make an interesting chat show panel discussing cricket.

Though Phil Gould (ex rugby league coach, well known in Australia as a coach) in as a panel member and it would be good viewing.

I few years back Gould and Chappell went head to head during a tea break discussing the importance of coaches in sport. Gould was saying that there was a role for coaches in the sense that they help manage the side in conjunction with the captain.

Chappell strongly disagreed but basically just kept saying that the "Ws and L's go against my name so ill control everything". Gould said that policy was obsolete in todays sporting arena due to the large amount of things a captain has to deal with.

Chappell actually got very fired up, it was a shame they didnt have more time because it was great viewing. Mark Nicholis was acting as the chairperson and you almost felt he didnt want to step in and say they had to finish because it was great viewing.

Then during the last session something happened in the game which Chappell said proved his point. Then the camera showed Gould watching the game in the SCG stands and Chappell started up again, saying that someone should text Gould to say that Chappell was right.

It actually made me think Chappell was one of those guys who always has the last say.

I saw a book on the Dymocks side written by Ian Chappell that bought together a collection of articles written by Chappell mainly on the Australian side in the past 15 years. I am thinking of getting it just to see what he wrote, how close his predictions were and what not.

I remember a few years back he said Tendulkar was past it and should retire. What a joke that was.

It's hard to gauge what his true feelings are when his on Ch 9 commentating because he knows his talking to a Australian audience. However, when the SCG fiasco happened i remember hearing him on an Indian channel and he was getting stuck into Hayden.

I also remember when the Australians won in 2004 in India all the journos got comments from famous Australian cricketers. Kim Hughes said it was a great moment and what not and someone asked Ian Chappell would he thought and he said "I have no comment". It almost seemed like he was disappointed because that was the last frontier that the Australians had to conquer to be classified as a great side.

His personal attack on Buchanan last year was very disappointing however and to be honest Buchanan has showed a lot of class not to respond.

 

[cozmoz]

Yeah Ian Chappell, Shane Warne and Sunil Gavaskar would defintely make an interesting chat show panel discussing cricket...............

chappell did not say that sachin shud retire, he said he shud think of his future if he remains a defensive batsman

aus was a great side even before winning that series in 2004

how about neil harvey, the biggest joke on the planet

 

[blackhead&boil]

it is just rubbish dished out by sunil gavaskar, mukul kesavan and many indians about ponting, nothing more

btw, gavaskar also wrote yesterday that the aussie team never claps when an opposition player scores a 100 or takes a 5 wicket haul but the indians are first to do it, which is another case of gavaskar garbage

sunil gavaskar needs to learn something from his son rohan who is an ordinary cricketer and at times says stupid things but has some class

sunil gavaskar has none

for me the most difficult thing is to look at the rubbish the moron ian chappell is constantly dishing out regarding aussie cricketers on indian channel neo
cricket

he is neil harvey part 2 and warne is neil harvey part 3

I don't know about the teams, but I've noticed for years that subcontinent crowds are veeerrry subdued when it comes to opposition milestones or boundaries, etc. you get much more appreciation from australian crowds.


and I want to join the long line of people patting adelaide hawk on the back. great job, mate!!