News Swans Talk in the Media: 2021

[Ticky009]

So thanks to the awesome Kennedy Parker you will notice a sticky post at the top of the pages now. This link will take you directly to the Swans YouTube channel which features interviews etc.

 

[Punts]

Interview before the game.

Do you know where I can find it mate?

 

[BloodySwan]

We still have the same salary cap the other 17 teams have, so people need to chill about academies. We may have drafted a bunch of kids from the academy, but keeping them all long term is another thing altogether.

People outside of Sydney are jumping at shadows at the moment.

We're going to have a hard time keeping McDonald & Warner I feel. WA teams are super aggressive when it comes to WA talent

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

We're going to have a hard time keeping McDonald & Warner I feel. WA teams are super aggressive when it comes to WA talent

Can you leave that for another time? That’s a miserable thought. We should back our system and our team chemistry to keep those kids.


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[Ticky009]

Expanded details on original article

The ‘Sydney Swarm’: The new vision that reveals the true extent of the John Longmire ‘revolution’

The ‘Sydney Swarm’: Stunning vision reveals true extent of the ‘Longmire revolution’

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[BloodySwan]

Can you leave that for another time? That’s a miserable thought. We should back our system and our team chemistry to keep those kids.


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I do think we'll keep them but imagine they'll be the hardest to keep.

Stephens will go unless he gets more game time

 

[Maddhew]

My issue is still that they talked about John retreating to defend for the last 10 years... where the **** were they from 2013 through 2016??? Because they weren't watching Sydney play... Just shits me, it's like the whole SCG is smaller myth... has a life of its own!

I actually agree with that analysis and it wasn't a criticism.

We were previously using 'gut running' as it was referred to at he time to flood back when the opposition was going forward and form a zone defence. It was bloody effective (2012-2016) when we had the talent to force the turnover and and rebound from the defensive 50.

We are still using a zone defence but instead of flooding back we are pushing forward and looking to effect the turnover on the wing or closer to goal. Without realising the strategy it is quite frustrating to see a player leave their man and to push forward only to see the ball fly over their head to the now unmarked player. If everyone is doing it and is disciplined though you will eventually have 'manned up' and hopefully force a turnover before the ball goes inside 50.

We seem to have the speed and kicking accuracy to effectively do this now. Will be interesting to see what opposition teams do to quell it.

 

[Ralphyboy]

Wicks should not even be included in the Academy discussion as he was taken as a rookie pick, meaning every club in the AFL overlooked him 3 or 4 times during the national draft.

Wicks was the absolute last selection in 2018 after zero interest in his draft year 2017. His selection consisted of the swans filling in a form and filing it with the AFL. He didn't even warrant being listed in the media as being drafted that year.

 

[Ticky009]

The Swans DNA

“It’s in their DNA”: The key elements of Sydney’s early success

The Swans have been super impressive so far in 2021.

www.sen.com.au

 

[RUNVS]

Wicks was the absolute last selection in 2018 after zero interest in his draft year 2017. His selection consisted of the swans filling in a form and filing it with the AFL. He didn't even warrant being listed in the media as being drafted that year.

Yep. Go onto footywire into the Swans draft section. In the 2018 draft you won't find Wicks name anywhere.

Sydney Swans AFL Draft History

AFL draft history for the Sydney Swans. Includes national, pre-season and rookie draft picks.

www.footywire.com

 

[ScottBo]

Yep. Go onto footywire into the Swans draft section. In the 2018 draft you won't find Wicks name anywhere.

Sydney Swans AFL Draft History

AFL draft history for the Sydney Swans. Includes national, pre-season and rookie draft picks.

www.footywire.com

By the time the Swans Academy conspiracy theories run the course we will have snuck Wicks onto our list Kieran Jack stealth-style. Every team would have grabbed him given a level playing field.

Speaking of ones that could've got away and those that did, am I the only one getting a no-fuss, high-impact Bruest hard playing style vibe from young Sam?

 

[momentbymoment]

We still have the same salary cap the other 17 teams have, so people need to chill about academies. We may have drafted a bunch of kids from the academy, but keeping them all long term is another thing altogether.

People outside of Sydney are jumping at shadows at the moment.

Fox Footy Pre Game Show
Interview with Brereton, King and Huddo
Interview starts at 36.00
At 40.09 David King asks him about Don Pyke’s role.

King - Has he being the main instigator for how you move the ball now?

Heeney - He has been a massive instigator, yeah. He’s obviously a real strategic bloke and comes into it and has sort of changed up a little bit of the way we go about things - the ball movement, the defensive running has definitely changed and I guess you could say a little bit like Adelaide back in 2017. So, he has had a massive impact on us.

He also talks about how great the Hub was for the Swans - the boys became really close.

 

[S120]

Fox Footy Pre Game Show
Interview with Brereton, King and Huddo
Interview starts at 36.00
At 40.09 David King asks him about Don Pyke’s role.

King - Has he being the main instigator for how you move the ball now?

Heeney - He has been a massive instigator, yeah. He’s obviously a real strategic bloke and comes into it and has sort of changed up a little bit of the way we go about things - the ball movement, the defensive running has definitely changed and I guess you could say a little bit like Adelaide back in 2017. So, he has had a massive impact on us.

He also talks about how great the Hub was for the Swans - the boys became really close.

Interesting how the experience of living in hubs has had different effects on different clubs. WCE appeared to hate it and couldn't get out of there quickly enough and it showed in their performance. Our side, despite being a bottom 4 side last year, seemed to genuinely relish it and its product has been a closer and even more tightly-knit squad. It's a great sign for the future that all of these young guys appear so tightly bonded. With the good proportion of NSW players and hopefully interstate guys who are now connected intimately with the club and the others, it could protect us as we start our push up the ladder from limiting our losses of players.

Example of the bond with the club for me was hearing Chad Warner the other day specifically mention "the bloods". It's a small thing and could mean nothing but to me it suggests that even as a 19 year old he seems on board with the meaning behind the club already.

 

[SwansProudly]

More Victorian anti-Academy bias

‘What price do they pay?’ - Swans’ scorching start reignites AFL academy debate

‘What price do they pay?’: Swans’ scorching start just reignited fierce AFL debate

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Mister B]

More Victorian anti-Academy bias

‘What price do they pay?’ - Swans’ scorching start reignites AFL academy debate

‘What price do they pay?’: Swans’ scorching start just reignited fierce AFL debate

www.foxsports.com.au

We need not stress. If fighting the good fight on social media, just remind any detractors that the whole reason we have the academy is because the AFL tried and failed miserably at looking after junior development in Sydney and that is the reason why the academy exists. The AFL literally said, this is too hard, if you want junior development in NSW, you do it. The minute they try and play funny buggers, is the minute we cut all funding and start a campaign demanding equity in junior pathways funding. The AFL know they can't do it.

 

[momentbymoment]

Do you know where I can find it mate?

Accidentally posted this to another reply.

Fox Footy Pre Game Show
Interview with Brereton, King and Huddo

Interview starts at 36.00
At 40.09 David King asks him about Don Pyke’s role.

King - Has he being the main instigator for how you move the ball now?

Heeney - He has been a massive instigator, yeah. He’s obviously a real strategic bloke and comes into it and has sort of changed up a little bit of the way we go about things - the ball movement, the defensive running has definitely changed and I guess you could say a little bit like Adelaide back in 2017. So, he has had a massive impact on us.

He also talks about how great the Hub was for the Swans - the boys became really close.

 

[momentbymoment]

Interesting how the experience of living in hubs has had different effects on different clubs. WCE appeared to hate it and couldn't get out of there quickly enough and it showed in their performance. Our side, despite being a bottom 4 side last year, seemed to genuinely relish it and its product has been a closer and even more tightly-knit squad. It's a great sign for the future that all of these young guys appear so tightly bonded. With the good proportion of NSW players and hopefully interstate guys who are now connected intimately with the club and the others, it could protect us as we start our push up the ladder from limiting our losses of players.

Example of the bond with the club for me was hearing Chad Warner the other day specifically mention "the bloods". It's a small thing and could mean nothing but to me it suggests that even as a 19 year old he seems on board with the meaning behind the club already.

Strangely enough it sounds like a season long, footy camp and the youngsters enjoyed it like teenagers. Which makes sense cause most of them are ...

 

[Punts]

Accidentally posted this to another reply.

Fox Footy Pre Game Show
Interview with Brereton, King and Huddo

Interview starts at 36.00
At 40.09 David King asks him about Don Pyke’s role.

King - Has he being the main instigator for how you move the ball now?

Heeney - He has been a massive instigator, yeah. He’s obviously a real strategic bloke and comes into it and has sort of changed up a little bit of the way we go about things - the ball movement, the defensive running has definitely changed and I guess you could say a little bit like Adelaide back in 2017. So, he has had a massive impact on us.

He also talks about how great the Hub was for the Swans - the boys became really close.

cheers

 

[momentbymoment]

More Victorian anti-Academy bias

‘What price do they pay?’ - Swans’ scorching start reignites AFL academy debate

‘What price do they pay?’: Swans’ scorching start just reignited fierce AFL debate

www.foxsports.com.au

Because after 3 games it makes total sense that the Swans will win the flag and start a decade long dynasty.

 

[S120]

More Victorian anti-Academy bias

‘What price do they pay?’ - Swans’ scorching start reignites AFL academy debate

‘What price do they pay?’: Swans’ scorching start just reignited fierce AFL debate

www.foxsports.com.au

I didn't think it was that bad from Scott (who I generally find annoying), not great but not the worst. Not Eddie level of nonsense. He supported the need for the Academy in that it gets more NSW kids playing footy and didn't actually go into any propositions about how much more we should be paying for the Academy grads. If this is as bad as it gets from Victorian clubs pushing against our Academy then I'll take it. That said, I'm sure this isn't the last and most vitriolic of it to come.

Caroline Wilson is always good to stick up for the point of the Academy too so glad she was there.

 

[sataris]

I don't read any of the articles that come out about footy (or sports in general). Sports journalists are failed journalists, and it shows in their research and writing ability.

I will say, the swans should go full scorched earth if the AFL decide to take over our academy. Fire everyone, dismantle the pathways and let them start again from the beginning.

in 3 years "Why is there no talent coming out of the swans academy?"

 

[SM]

More Victorian anti-Academy bias

‘What price do they pay?’ - Swans’ scorching start reignites AFL academy debate

‘What price do they pay?’: Swans’ scorching start just reignited fierce AFL debate

www.foxsports.com.au

Did you actually read the article you posted? Scott says the Academies are a good thing..

 

[SwansProudly]

Did you actually read the article you posted? Scott says the Academies are a good thing..

It was more that the Victoria media are talking about the Swans Academy,
Edited: there is more to the Richmond game than the Academy players - the non-Academy players e.g. Wicks, Warner, strategy, game plan, ...

 

[RUNVS]

Did you actually read the article you posted? Scott says the Academies are a good thing..

Yep. Sounds like Scott wants to keep the academies, but just increase the price, and to be honest I am fine with having that discussion as the points system was put in place 10 years ago and it has not been reevaluated since.

 

[SM]

It was more that the Victoria media are talking about the Swans Academy.

Are they not allowed to talk about it? Doesn't automatically make it anti-Academy or biased. Scott said the Academy has its place and it's valuable, but that they need to price it properly.

As has been pointed out by others in the media, Gulden was passed over by every club except Richmond, so hard to argue that we didn't pay a fair price for him in a draft points sense.

Yep. Sounds like Scott wants to keep the academies, but just increase the price, and to be honest I am fine with having that discussion as the points system was put in place 10 years ago and it has not been reevaluated since.

Points system needs to be reevaluated for everything, whether it's F/S or Academy or any other priority a team gets to select a player. But at the end of the day if every club passes over a play no one gets to cry foul.

 

[RUNVS]

Points system needs to be reevaluated for everything, whether it's F/S or Academy or any other priority a team gets to select a player. But at the end of the day if every club passes over a play no one gets to cry foul.

I would be laughing my arse off if the price for a top 5 pick went up a lot just in time for Collingwood to draft that Daicos kid.