Yeah must be my imagination that this thread is littered with them.
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Sydney Salary Cap
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Yeah must be my imagination that this thread is littered with them.
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Guessing this question is old, but interested in the response:
If it's about CoL, then shouldn't Geelong get a lower cap than the Melbourne teams?
If it's about CoL, then shouldn't Geelong get a lower cap than the Melbourne teams?
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Can someone tell me how the extra $900k is allocated? Is Sydney forced to divide it evenly across all players, as would be appropriate if it is indeed to counter the extra cost of living? Or can they do with it what they want?
Apparently the rookies and first year players are "voluntarily" given a bit, and the rest is just a general salary slush fund.
Some very easy fishing in this little pond.
Where the hell did all the Sydney fish come from.
Admitting to trolling on the main board.....is this in accordance with BF rules? Also, what does the join date of posters have to do with the discussion of Sydney's concessions?
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Some very easy fishing in this little pond.
Where the hell did all the Sydney fish come from.
Thanks for letting us know.
When I've got time later, I shall review this thread and your posts.
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TheBrownDog
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For your consideration:
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If any substantial part of the extra figure is indeed a slush fund for them to do with as they please, it's a joke for sure.
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There is no evidence to suggest the entire extra figure isn't just extra cap space with no questions asked.
And no, Andrew Ireland saying 'all players get paid market value plus 10%' does not count.
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To any Sydney based Swans' fans who also follows an NRL club, are you one of those NRL fans who cried "cheats" when the Storm got busted breaching the salary cap? If so, major lolz at the double standards. Storm had to conceal the extra payments and it's a cheat, Swans don't have to because the extra room in the cap is given to it on a silver platter and there's no issue. But there lies the double standard. Not okay for Storm to pay its players extra, whether it's legal or not, but perfectly allowable for the Swans.
Are the Sydney based NRL clubs allowed a higher cap than the Storm? If not, why is it a cost of living expense issue in the AFL and not the NRL?
Are the Sydney based NRL clubs allowed a higher cap than the Storm? If not, why is it a cost of living expense issue in the AFL and not the NRL?
Riders of Rohan
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If it turns out it was a factor in the premiership, it will be changed. Just like the priority pick rule was changed because of 08 and 10.
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How do you determine if Sydney's extra salary cap was or was not a factor in the 2012 premiership?
The Swans extra salary cap was just as 'unfair' in 2009 when you came 12th as it was in 2012.
The CoL allowance should not be reviewed because you won the flag, it should be reviewed because in its current form it is not justified or transparent.
Riders of Rohan
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You can determine if it did by discovering if it was a factor in the acquisition of talent for the 2012 premiership team. If even one member of the side would not have been able to be brought in by the club without it than it was a factor. Though only the AFL and the Swans can determine if this was the case.
It would be better for us if this was more transperent, but the players have their right to contract privacy.
It would be better for us if this was more transperent, but the players have their right to contract privacy.
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I don't think this is achievable. It would be dealing in hypotheticals.
You 'bought' Kennedy and Mumford with more game time and more money. You drafted Morton because nobody else wanted him. You traded in Shaw because he was on the outer at Collingwood. Etc.
Players have joined other clubs in similar circumstances. Where do you draw the line?
The King!
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I agree with your last point, it should be reviewed annually it should be transparent, then at least we would all know the rationale and facts used if kept.
Rob Kerr of the Lions saying the extra COL cap space afforded to Swans and GWS is unfair.
Maybe true, but still sour grapes.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/150842/default.aspx
Maybe true, but still sour grapes.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/150842/default.aspx
lol
a very, very, very thinly veiled attempt to reinstate the lions own allowances by linking it to interstate recruits
apparently if you were born in adelaide the cost of living in sydney is higher than it is if you were born in sydney
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Great that Kerr is keeping the pressure on the afl.
His suggestion is a joke though.
I still believe a CoL linked to price differences in essential expenses would address the intended issue. Given this would equate to less than $5,000 per player it may be feasible. But that is based on the assumption it would be intended to address CoL differences.
His suggestion is a joke though.
I still believe a CoL linked to price differences in essential expenses would address the intended issue. Given this would equate to less than $5,000 per player it may be feasible. But that is based on the assumption it would be intended to address CoL differences.
Ironmonger
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Seems like a sensible, prudent, well thought out argument, coming at a time when the heat is out of the debate. Sour grapes could be argued if the same comment had been made in the week after Tippett announced he was going to the Swans.
And it acknowledges the reality that we all understand, which is that the CoL concession is more about retention of players in a non-footballing area than about cost of living.
By the way, everyone should read the full article by Kerr on the Lions' trade period. It's a great piece, even for non-Lions fans, and gives a real insight into the way clubs approach the trade period.
Bigger question is which players are the Lions spending all their money on? No way they'd be anywhere near using their cap, just a weak excuse imo.
Not really - everyone has to spend 95% of their cap. Even the shit teams (not pointing the finger at the Lions here, just stating a fact). So if the cap is $8M, the very most they could have left over spare is $400k. So if a player is asking for $800k a year, you still need to find a good chunk of change. Bradshaw coming off contract would have helped the Swans immensely, amongst others (and yes, the CoL would have helped too, but if the Swans are paying everyone 9.8% more, then that would mean an extra $39.2k or so over everyone else - they still need to find a fair chunk).
The Qld clubs, like the NSW clubs, should have some form of benefit not afforded clubs from traditional AFL states. The relocation of players from interstate is a massive headache and the 100 year gap in junior development puts both states at an immediate disadvantage. No one wants to recognise this. Everyone justs wants to complain. Big Footy would have to be the biggest collection of whiners ever collected in one place. While the Lions may not need financial assistance, draft priority or compensation would seem fair to melol
a very, very, very thinly veiled attempt to reinstate the lions own allowances by linking it to interstate recruits
apparently if you were born in adelaide the cost of living in sydney is higher than it is if you were born in sydney
In a way it could be argued that players in non Melbourne based clubs do work harder than players in Melbourne based clubs as non Melbourne clubs have to go interstate every second week and as you all know going interstate to play a match means the players need to leave their homes earlier and they get home later as well so it is arguable that a player in a non Melbourne club would spend a extra couple of weeks (added up) away from their families during the season than a player in a Melbourne based club. Being forced to spend more time away from your family does mean a player deserves a little extra payment.
