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not sure if this has been brought up or not but should we try and chase Aaron Edwards? massive foward with great leap and straight kick but has not reached his full potential at North..could we make a play for him?
Aaron Edwards has a big mature body but certainly isn't big as in tall just looked up that he is 184 cm and 92 kgs.
 
I mentioned in another thread that Vespremi would be worth chasing as that small forward type. Problem is pick 60 isn't enough and I can't think of anyone Sydney would want in return.

Absolute NO NO NO

Recall the 2008 Prelim and Vespremi got beaten in a contest by Tiller stayed on the ground and had to be helped off despite minimal contact. Played the hurt card like Patrick Bowden.

We do not need a Mummy's Boy.

Patrick Soft Premi the margarine boy (too soft for Butter) has no AFL career prospect. I posted at that time that he would not make an AFL footballer.
 

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why of why, when we finally have a raft of great young key forward prospects (Grant, Jones, Panos, Cordy, Roughead), do we have posters on here talking about guys like Ryan Murphy, Ben McKinley and Aaron Edwards??!?!?! Just a few names for you.......Kingsley Hunter, Adam Morgan, Adam McDougall, Daniel Bandy.......nooooooo recycled marking fwds please.

Im interested in Sherman for his serious outside leg speed and Chris Knights as a goal-kicking mid/fwd if we can fit one of them under the cap.

Happy to dangle Minson as trade bait. not skinny everitt though.
 
Wouldn't mind Djkuerra at all, pacey forward, who tackles and puts pressure on, have no idea who we would trade for him but.

Chris Knights would be an aweome addition to our team, scores a lot of goals and can have a go in the midfield.

Still think we'll need to bring someone in to replace Harbrow, a Sherman type maybe?


I still wouldnt mind seeing one more tall forward brought in, I know we have had shit expierances with tall forwards, but i think it's best to wait and see who's avaiable in the pre-season draft.

If, huge IF we do trade Minson, Roughead, ofcourse will be our 2nd ruckmen, but then were stuck with two ruckmen, but we might have to play Everitt as the 3rd ruckmen, does anyone else see us using a pick on a ruckmen if Minson is traded?
 
Chris Knights has told Adelaide he wants to come home to Melbourne next year and the 2 clubs to have already been in contact with him are Carlton & Richmond.
Source: Very close family friend.
 
Does anyone think we should chase Ben McKinley? He was looking very promising (WCE leading goalkicker 2008), is from Victoria and out of contract. If Stack (or Hill) chooses to go home we could make a deal.

Only if we pick him up for a nothing 4th rounder pick. Can't play small and doesn't chase, Hill provides more forward line pressure then him.
 
Well I am seriously not happy to trade Minson.

If Hudson went down (age 31) Roughead cannot carry the rucks.

Minson is 25 big, strong, aggressive and has had a seriously interrupted season. Hudson was 25 when he debuted.

MUST KEEP MINSON!!!!!

I agree. And Jamar only started playing good football when we was 27 or so.

I am probably being overfussy, but out of all the names being mentioned none have me interested at all. I just can't see the point of wasting a draft pick on players who can't get games at other clubs(because they are not good enough) and just clogging our list.

The clubs that are great at recyling players like Sydney specifically target players months in advance, and they make sure that they are in their best 22. We have done well with our trades because we have targetted specific players, proven players at that, to fill a specific need.

The clubs that are in trouble, are managed poorly like Brisbane, and just wait around at the end of the year to see who is delisted or out of contract, and just waste good draft picks on players who will never play in a premiership.

We are going to be in a rebuilding phase next year. Lets stick with our draft picks and build our great players rather than waste the picks. We have many times drafted great players from our low picks. Don't just throw them away on rejects for the sake of it.
 

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We should seriously target Mundy. We are going to loose truck loads of expirienced senior players this year and he would slide into our leadership group. Djerkurra on the other hand isn't worth trading for. We don't want to throw away our draft picks like we did with Timmy callan. They are cats rejects that can't get a game, posters on here want us to win a premiership and using players that couldn't crack it in their previous teams aren't going to help us achieve that.
 
Only if we pick him up for a nothing 4th rounder pick. Can't play small and doesn't chase, Hill provides more forward line pressure then him.
Come to think of it, he'll almost certainly go to Essendon anyway, it was what he originally wanted.
 
Only if we pick him up for a nothing 4th rounder pick. Can't play small and doesn't chase, Hill provides more forward line pressure then him.

with Barry Hall probaly only playing for one more year i think McKinley would be worth a punt.

yes he may not be a great chaser but he would probaly be more useful in a final then Josh Hill.
 
We should throw absolutly everything at Jarrad roughead. What do people think of higgins and hargrave for roughy, or higgins and our compo pick from harbrow. I know he is contracted but once barry retires, we won't have a mature key forward, this would allow jones to play center half back where he was very good as a junior and played well there at stages this year in the vfl. I know higgins is a big loss but roughy would be well worth it I think. He hasn't had the greatest of years but he would still command a hefty price. I know this is a bit of a pipe dream, I just wanted to know what others thought about it.
 
We should throw absolutly everything at Jarrad roughead. What do people think of higgins and hargrave for roughy, or higgins and our compo pick from harbrow. I know he is contracted but once barry retires, we won't have a mature key forward, this would allow jones to play center half back where he was very good as a junior and played well there at stages this year in the vfl. I know higgins is a big loss but roughy would be well worth it I think. He hasn't had the greatest of years but he would still command a hefty price. I know this is a bit of a pipe dream, I just wanted to know what others thought about it.

I dont like it. For Roughead's size, and how rated he is/was, he should do a lot better than he does. Is pretty much the same as Travis Cloke. He only kicked 49 goals this year. For a key forward in a team that made finals he should have kicked more.
Higgins imo is non-tradeable. People are forgetting how much the club rates him, and how much before this year all of us rated him. He has had a very injury/illness interrupted year, and still did pretty good in some games. Plus a first round pick for spudhead, I dont like the sound of it at all.

I wouldn't be opposed to trading Hargrave. While he has a bit of value. Im not sure what to trade him for. Probably a better half back :p
 
I dont like it. For Roughead's size, and how rated he is/was, he should do a lot better than he does. Is pretty much the same as Travis Cloke. He only kicked 49 goals this year. For a key forward in a team that made finals he should have kicked more.
Higgins imo is non-tradeable. People are forgetting how much the club rates him, and how much before this year all of us rated him. He has had a very injury/illness interrupted year, and still did pretty good in some games. Plus a first round pick for spudhead, I dont like the sound of it at all.

I wouldn't be opposed to trading Hargrave. While he has a bit of value. Im not sure what to trade him for. Probably a better half back :p

Hargrave and Higgins haven't been at their best this season- if we trade them we will be seriously embarrassed IMO.

You only trade when you have a surplus of one type of player- our list isn't good enough that we can afford to offload anyone at the moment.
 
I wasn't suggesting we panic and try to off load them. I rate higgins very highly, he is a serious football talent and maybe even a future captain. I'm just saying that if the trade were to eventuate would we be on top? I reckon we would. I would only trade higgo if he wanted to leave though because he is very popular and respected at the kennel and we wouldn't want to disturb the culture of the club.


Who on our list would you trade for roughy if he became available?
 
My forsee-able ins and outs are as follows:

Ins:
Wallis (1st round F/S).
Liberatore (2nd round F/S).
Moles, Hooper, Panos (rookie upgrades).
2 first round compensation picks (if Harbrow goes - hopefully he goes as an 'A' Tier player - it's his age and GC salary that decide this, so he is a big chance).

Outs:
Johnson, Eagleton, Hahn (all retired)
Tiller, Callan (delisted)

The trade I really like:

Sherman for our 3rd round pick. He doesn't have much currency at the moment, and I think this would be considered by the Lions. He really needs a change of club and would be a nice fit for the space created by Harbrow leaving.

We can probably afford to deal off our third rounder this year, seeing as we will most likely promote a couple of rookies from last year who proved their worth (Moles, Hooper, and hopefully goal-machine Panos).

Other players worth considering:

Mundy (although I think he'll go to a 'big' team).
Drummond (doubt we could fit him in the Salary Cap).
Chris Knights (again, I think a 'big' team will come knocking).
Roughead (really doubt Hawthorn would trade him tbh).
Mitch Clark - he is an interesting one, had an off-season incident, and Brisbane seem in turmoil at the moment and willing to trade almost anyone. If something was worked for him, then undoubtedly Big Will would be used in the trade, as his role as second/third ruck would be compromised.

I don't like the thought of offering up Minson unless another ruck was involved. Minno really seems like he bleeds red, white, and blue, and besides, if Hudson goes down next year (he will be 32!), Minno will be worth his weight in gold - he is a heavy lad...

Higgins should be an untradeable for us really. So much upside if he has full fitness.

Hargrave is not worth trading due to his age - would be a complete waste of time.
 
I'm not that interested in this thread this week, but will be once the season is over.

But for those of your that are the first thing we have to do is identify what we really need on our list....now and into the future.

Right now, we need and outside mid/forward who can kick goals who is ready to go. And for the future we need to be developing some tall key defenders and outside mids.

I think we should be looking at Peter Faulks from Willi who is mature age but only 22 as starting point for developing tall defenders, the other is Pedderson from Box Hill. I suspect Faulks will be drafted next year by someone I reckon Freo are sniffing about. We may need to use a draft pick on him as he may not be around to rookie.

I really don't like us going after high profile players from other clubs and would rather shop the lower levels and use the draft.

If we do get 2 first round picks for Harbrow, that would be amazing but highly unlikely. I suspect only the really top liners will get that compo.
 
with Barry Hall probaly only playing for one more year i think McKinley would be worth a punt.

yes he may not be a great chaser but he would probaly be more useful in a final then Josh Hill.

List clogger. Would rather get games into Hooper, Thorne, etc... than waste games on a guy who couldnt be bothered.
 
Outs:
Johnson, Eagleton, Hahn (all retired)
Tiller, Callan (delisted)

I have double the outs(what I think will happen) that you have, so will be interesting to see what happens at that time of the year. It wouldn't surprise me if we had ten come off our list for various reasons.


To posters who follow the under age competitions and the drafts, what is the quality and depth of the draft this year? How deep in quality does it run?

Given, the state of our list and that we will be in mini rebuilding mode next year, wouldn't surprise me if we trade out rather than trade in.
 
Is Everitt better than Jarrad Brennan who wants to leave Brisbane. Worth swapping? I think Everitt will be a better player but just going by how Eade limits his development.
 

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