Resource The 2016 AFL Crowds and Ratings Thread

[Rouel_14]

Its posts like this that reinforce my belief that the rep Melbourne has as a sporting capital is mostly because of the MCG. If you cant follow your team down the road simply because of the stadium than you just dont deserve to be called a genuine fan.

Of course I will be there on Saturday, but I know for sure that there is people that won't be.
And you can't deny that it will have an effect on the attendance.
That really is a bit of an obvious statement about the MCG, I mean really, take the biggest historic stadium out of any city around the world and it would not have the sporting appeal that it has..

 

[Rouel_14]

25 degrees. Round 3 with 1 win and 1 loss by a point. If we can't get over 35k there it would be atrocious

Put into perspective, we didn't pull over 40000 against any interstate opponent last year, in saying that, we didn't get bellow 35000 either.

So not in great form, probably not expected to win, not playing at home will put Some members out of joint and a max of about 40000 core members who attend games, I can see us struggling To get 30000.

 

[Rezza Tiger]

Put into perspective, we didn't pull over 40000 against any interstate opponent last year, in saying that, we didn't get bellow 35000 either.

So not in great form, probably not expected to win, not playing at home will put Some members out of joint and a max of about 40000 core members who attend games, I can see us struggling To get 30000.

I think this is pretty much right except we did get 45k against West Coast last year on a freezing cold Friday night. Also note Collingwood only got 33k against Adelaide last year coming off a win in Rd 1 so I think 30k is pretty optimistic.

 

[The_Wookie]

 

[manicmagpie]

Hopefully the Adelaide Oval has fixed its issue with reporting inflated crowd figures.

Last year the number reported on gameday was revised down by 800-1500 people by the middle of the week for every single game. However this year the figure for Round 1 is still the same on afltables.com as was reported on the day. Would make things a lot easier if we can rely on the initial figure.

 

[Rouel_14]

Not even the players want to go to Etihad...

 

[sverik25]

Okay, so after the response from last week, I'll post the historical averages (2000 onwards) for this weeks matches again, along with my thoughts. Unfortunately this week there a couple of matches which are unique; they haven't happened either at the correct venue or had the right home team.

Port Adelaide vs Essendon @ AO: 46,786 The AFL would have originally pencilled this one in as 50,000+, but with Port's unconvincing start to the season that is looking less likely.
St Kilda vs Collingwood @ MCG: N/A (St Kilda vs Collingwood @ ES: 45,947, Collingwood vs St Kilda @ MCG: 52,849) After last week's disaster from the Saints I struggle to see this match drawing 50,000.
Richmond vs Adelaide @ ES: 26,627 I would hope for around 30,000, but Etihad traditionally draws significantly worse for MCG tenants than the MCG.
Sydney vs GWS @ SCG: 27,167 With the improvement of the Giants and the evolution of this fixture in general I would expect much well higher than this average.
Gold Coast vs Carlton @ MS: 17,356 This crowd prediction seems to be more or less on the money given Gold Coast's promising start to the season.
West Coast vs Fremantle @ DS: 41,017 As has been the trend in most recent derbies, I think this crowd will be marginally lower than the average.
North Melbourne vs Melbourne @ BA: N/A There are really no reliable indicators for this game. I'd tentatively predict 13 - 14,000.
Western Bulldogs vs Hawthorn @ ES: 32,245 This match should attract a significantly higher than average crowd with the build up.
Geelong vs Brisbane @ SS: 22,306 Not too sure about the capacity of the Cattery this season, but I think 22,000 odd will be a stretch against Brisbane.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Hopefully the Adelaide Oval has fixed its issue with reporting inflated crowd figures.

Last year the number reported on gameday was revised down by 800-1500 people by the middle of the week for every single game. However this year the figure for Round 1 is still the same on afltables.com as was reported on the day. Would make things a lot easier if we can rely on the initial figure.

It was between 600 and 900, I have a spreadsheet somewhere on it. It was staff (mainly food and beverage) counted as they swiped their card to get into the ground. Probably all got to do with SACA and SANFL not trusting each other given their dodgy history with catering profits so the SMA counted everyone. There was one game where the crowd was announced, the crows then tweeted a figure about 700 higher to show a crowd of approx 50,500 and then the official final figure was about 137 less than what went up on the scoreboard, but was in that 600-900 range adjustment from what the crows tweeted.

It happened in 2014 but the AFL didnt pick it up until the Elimination final when they had full control of the ground and had to reconicle the crowd to ticket sales revenue. The elimination final crowd was the only 2014 figure adjusted

 

[Our Game]

It was between 600 and 900, I have a spreadsheet somewhere on it. It was staff (mainly food and beverage) counted as they swiped their card to get into the ground. Probably all got to do with SACA and SANFL not trusting each other given their dodgy history with catering profits so the SMA counted everyone. There was one game where the crowd was announced, the crows then tweeted a figure about 700 higher to show a crowd of approx 50,500 and then the official final figure was about 137 less than what went up on the scoreboard, but was in that 600-900 range adjustment from what the crows tweeted.

It happened in 2014 but the AFL didnt pick it up until the Elimination final when they had full control of the ground and had to reconicle the crowd to ticket sales revenue. The elimination final crowd was the only 2014 figure adjusted

This is nothing new the VFL up to the 1970s used to count everybody at the G in Finals and for a GF that could be many 1000s extra people than the ones who actually paid to get in

It was called the attendance figure this sloppy way of counting stopped when the stadium became fully ticketed and now its electronic it has became easier to finalize the actual real numbers.

 

[kingy88]

44,601 for Port v Ess

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[Tassieboy]

29,951 at Etihad Stadium for Tigers and Adelaide. Maybe a bit weak?

50,903 at the MCG for Pies and Saints is a good crowd.

 

[Fletched]

Terrible crowd from Richmond

 

[Hawkers]

Terrible crowd from Richmond

Perhaps. But it's expected. Teams that have the home ground as the MCG shouldn't play home games at Etihad. There is more than enough evidence to say that supporters of those teams don't like going there

 

[dave10]

Perhaps. But it's expected. Teams that have the home ground as the MCG shouldn't play home games at Etihad. There is more than enough evidence to say that supporters of those teams don't like going there

To an extent. However after Richmonds poor performance last week you probably wouldn't have expected more than 32-33,000 at the G today. You get the feeling the Tiges will need to pull a rabbit out of the hat next week or their inaugural match ANZAC eve could deliver a sub 50,000 attendance which would be a disappointment for all stakeholders. Then again the Bombers haven't exactly assisted the promotion of The Country Game either which could see a dub 50,000 attendance next week as well.. Poor form impacts crowds. Richmond isn't immune.

Very good crowd at the G today. I was there (reluctantly) and the Saints were well represented in the stands on their special day which was good to see.

Haw V Dogs tomorrow - let's hope it pulls upwards of 45,000. It should do.

 

[Rouel_14]

Perhaps. But it's expected. Teams that have the home ground as the MCG shouldn't play home games at Etihad. There is more than enough evidence to say that supporters of those teams don't like going there

Watch them drop off now...
In saying that could of got 5000 more at the G..

 

[Our Game]

Terrible crowd from Richmond

Pretty piss poor from a club that claims 70,000 members on a perfect day with an outside chance of a win

Docklands is not that terrible a stadium I wonder how long before the Tiger faithful give up on their current crop of pretenders.

 

[Rouel_14]

Pretty piss poor from a club that claims 70,000 members on a perfect day with an outside chance of a win

Docklands is not that terrible a stadium I wonder how long before the Tiger faithful give up on their current crop of pretenders.

No one is saying that it is a terrible stadium.
It is just not our stadium...

 

[Cmarsh]

37k at the scg. Pretty decent crowd.

Metricon looking ordinary given the suns start to the season.

 

[Rezza Tiger]

Good turnup by the Tigers at shitihad today. Wasn't expecting many as we hate that sorry excuse for a stadium but ended up getting more than the grounds tenants against Adelaide and Freo. Looking like we'll top the attendances again this year

 

[Hawkk]

No one is saying that it is a terrible stadium.
It is just not our stadium...

Melbourne FC aside no Melbourne club has a stadium...

The sooner that Pies, Tiger and Hawk fans grasp this the sooner they can put their petty grievances with the world class stadium to one side...

 

[Hawkers]

Pretty piss poor from a club that claims 70,000 members on a perfect day with an outside chance of a win

Docklands is not that terrible a stadium I wonder how long before the Tiger faithful give up on their current crop of pretenders.

For whatever reason supporters of teams whose home ground is the MCG don't like going to Etihad. I don't know the reasons why but it is a fact

 

[AstuteTiger]

30K was an ok crowd, actually thats what i tipped today, well had we won last week perhaps 33-35K wouldve turned up, look i was there i dont mind etihad i cant understand the dislike towards it but there are supporters who dont like it period!!!, like pies supporters who mostly loathe it...

MCG is our home ground and had we played there today of course another 5K would've rolled up....

 

[manicmagpie]

To an extent. However after Richmonds poor performance last week you probably wouldn't have expected more than 32-33,000 at the G today. You get the feeling the Tiges will need to pull a rabbit out of the hat next week or their inaugural match ANZAC eve could deliver a sub 50,000 attendance which would be a disappointment for all stakeholders.

Inaugural? They did it last year already. Anyway, the crowd will be bolstered by Dees fans after their big win next week.

Good turnup by the Tigers at shitihad today. Wasn't expecting many as we hate that sorry excuse for a stadium but ended up getting more than the grounds tenants against Adelaide and Freo. Looking like we'll top the attendances again this year

The most interesting use of the word 'good' I'm going to see today, unless someone tries to describe Collingwood's performance that way.

The sooner that Pies, Tiger and Hawk fans grasp this the sooner they can put their petty grievances with the world class stadium to one side...

Hear, hear. It's pathetic. It'll happen again when the Pies play there later this season and it'll drive me insane again.

 

[Hawkers]

Melbourne FC aside no Melbourne club has a stadium...

The sooner that Pies, Tiger and Hawk fans grasp this the sooner they can put their petty grievances with the world class stadium to one side...

Perhaps you've hit the nail on head Hawkk.

Clubs that have now made their home at the MCG have come from other places, some willingly and some not so willingly. But all clubs, and their fans, realised that it was the best for their club to make the MCG their home ground.
It helps that the MCG is a rather default/generic home ground; but it's become one that the clubs and supporters have embraced. It's not a spiritual home (see Punt Road, Victoria Park, Glenferrie/Waverly) but it's a home that doesn't 100% belong to any other club (sorry Melbourne, it just doesn't). The MCG has always been the default ground for games (Finals mainly) and was seen as the premier and nature successor for home grounds for many teams even when they had their (spiritual) home grounds up and running.
So now for these clubs and their supporters to have embraced the MCG as their home ground and made it feel their own as much as they can the supporters feel ripped off at having to play their home games at Etihad.
The fact that it's placed in a stupid location doesn't help, either does the surface problems, either does the artificial conditions.

The clubs will play the safe game and say they don't mind and they understand playing games at Etihad but to many supporters it's not acceptable and have their say by not going to those games. And rightly so I say

 

[dave10]

Inaugural? They did it last year already. Anyway, the crowd will be bolstered by Dees fans after their big win next week.



The most interesting use of the word 'good' I'm going to see today, unless someone tries to describe Collingwood's performance that way.



Hear, hear. It's pathetic. It'll happen again when the Pies play there later this season and it'll drive me insane again.

It's not just Pies and Tiges supporters that appear to not want to go to Ethihad.

Essendon matches as well (and Carlton). Example: Essendon drew over 50,000 V Dee's last week. Guarantee if at Ethihad on the same day it would've drawn high 30's, possibly 40,000. Reason is that there are some Essendon supporters who only go to watch Essendon at the G. Fewer casual general admission fans go to Ethihad than the G all things considered. In addition, the majority of the thousands of MCC members (Essendon and Melbourne ones) that went last week wouldn't have gone to Ethihad. If nothing else, The MCC impact on clubs like Essendon who have a large MCC contingent as well as some casual fans mean the MCG would almost always inflate the crowd at the G by around 4-5,000 per game. Games like Ess V Mel last week would be even more when you add the Dees & Bombers MCC / AFL members and casual fan base that only go to the G.