List Mgmt. The 2019 Trade and Free Agency Thread

[Tulip]

Richmond aren't an elite kicking side. They literally kick long to Martin Lynch and Riewoldt who win the majority of their contests or they turn it over at half forward thanks to the pressure of their scores. Castagna and Butler are terrible infront of goals lol

Houli, Rance, Grimes, Astubury, Floss and Short can all kick. They don't suffer repeat entries because they actually find their good users. Only Prestia's use is a bit rubbish.

 

[blitznu]

Who are these realistic targets you're referring to?

Sam Gray is 1 id be trying to get cant believe theres been nothing about us chasing him. Small forward who can tackle kick 4 goals and have a run in the middle

 

[blitznu]

Apparently we want to set ourselves to have a crack next year so a pick this year is more appealing.

Whether thats the recipe for sustained success depends on whether we draft the right guy or not I guess.

Oh so this year we didnt actually try. Thank **** for that i feel so much better now knowing that.

 

[Topkent]

Houli, Rance, Grimes, Astubury, Floss and Short can all kick. They don't suffer repeat entries because they actually find their good users. Only Prestia's use is a bit rubbish.

May Melksham Salem Fritsch Petracca are all excellent kicks as well. Jack Riewoldt before the GF had kicked 15 goals from marks inside 50 all season. Again it's much easier to find a target inside 50 when you turn it over at the HFF and then have 7 guys free to kick to.

 

[Grimesy87]

Yeah fk me I can’t just tune out either. Better or worse (it’s worse for those wondering) I was raised to base my winter weekends around Dees games.

I had a job offer come up in Queensland, and didn't take it because winters around the stupid demons.

 

[markm106]

Absolutely not! I heard 4 @ $1.6-1.8M

Sounds more like it.

 

[Devastating Boris]

Not Dees related, but for those of you who were following posts last year, you may remember, I was told that after initial discussions with Shiel broke down due to Dodoro doing what it is he does, that if he didn’t fix the problem he’d be looking for a new job. Well 12 months on and old mate Dodo’s position is up for “review”. Read into that what you will but it seems like Ess is sick of the rep of trying to win trades, when teams these days are trying to “come away happy”.

 

[pjfairbairn]

Do not want Puopolo. The more I think about it, the more I am okay with trading OUT of the first round this year now that we've missed Anderson if we can get 3-4 players who can have an instant impact and can get into the first round twice next year in a better draft.

Would love to have a crack at Sam Reid (SYD), if they get Daniher he'd be expendable and would fill a need for us, especially if they are wanting to get to our pick 3. Something like:

Sydney give 2020 1st Round, 25 & Reid
Melbourne give pick 3

 

[pjfairbairn]

Also - listened to Petracca's 5th placed speech. He is not going anywhere.

 

[Topkent]

Do not want Puopolo. The more I think about it, the more I am okay with trading OUT of the first round this year now that we've missed Anderson if we can get 3-4 players who can have an instant impact and can get into the first round twice next year in a better draft.

Would love to have a crack at Sam Reid (SYD), if they get Daniher he'd be expendable and would fill a need for us, especially if they are wanting to get to our pick 3. Something like:

Sydney give 2020 1st Round, 25 & Reid
Melbourne give pick 3

Jesus mate that's an unbalanced trade. No way in hell

Let's say Sydney finish 9th. That's 9, 25 and Reid for 3 haha. No ****ing way.

 

[Devastating Boris]

Do not want Puopolo. The more I think about it, the more I am okay with trading OUT of the first round this year now that we've missed Anderson if we can get 3-4 players who can have an instant impact and can get into the first round twice next year in a better draft.

Would love to have a crack at Sam Reid (SYD), if they get Daniher he'd be expendable and would fill a need for us, especially if they are wanting to get to our pick 3. Something like:

Sydney give 2020 1st Round, 25 & Reid
Melbourne give pick 3

We have spoken to Sydney. Not sure if that’s what it was about, but I feel there’s more to go.

Dees are keen to stay in the first round this year, but who knows how that will end up

 

[Grimesy87]

Do not want Puopolo. The more I think about it, the more I am okay with trading OUT of the first round this year now that we've missed Anderson if we can get 3-4 players who can have an instant impact and can get into the first round twice next year in a better draft.

Would love to have a crack at Sam Reid (SYD), if they get Daniher he'd be expendable and would fill a need for us, especially if they are wanting to get to our pick 3. Something like:

Sydney give 2020 1st Round, 25 & Reid
Melbourne give pick 3

That's horrendous mate. If we do that, I think Mahoney would be locked in a home with a straightjacket on.

 

[Devastating Boris]

Do not want Puopolo. The more I think about it, the more I am okay with trading OUT of the first round this year now that we've missed Anderson if we can get 3-4 players who can have an instant impact and can get into the first round twice next year in a better draft.

Would love to have a crack at Sam Reid (SYD), if they get Daniher he'd be expendable and would fill a need for us, especially if they are wanting to get to our pick 3. Something like:

Sydney give 2020 1st Round, 25 & Reid
Melbourne give pick 3

We have spoken to Sydney. Not sure if that’s what it was about, but I feel there’s more to go.

Dees are keen to stay in the first round this year, but who knows how that will end up

 

[Demon 16]

If we can turn pick 3 into 2 first rounders next year I’d also be happy.

Then we’d have 3 first rounders in a stronger draft.

 

[pjfairbairn]

Jesus mate that's an unbalanced trade. No way in hell

Let's say Sydney finish 9th. That's 9, 25 and Reid for 3 haha. No ******* way.

Haha, happy to admit I'm not very good at this. Regardless as to whether you want Reid or not, can you propose what you think would be fair in the circumstances so I can get better and learn!

 

[pjfairbairn]

That's horrendous mate. If we do that, I think Mahoney would be locked in a home with a straightjacket on.

Fair call, happy to admit my own shortcomings - proposed trades are apparently one of them!

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

Don't know why everyone's worried about the strength of the draft. We only have one pick lol - I can guarantee you that players like Ash, Serong, Young and Gould will turn out to be as good as players from most top 10s. Every time they say it's a weak draft it never means anything.

 

[Topkent]

Haha, happy to admit I'm not very good at this. Regardless as to whether you want Reid or not, can you propose what you think would be fair in the circumstances so I can get better and learn!

Reid is probably valued ~30
So would you so 9,25 and 30 for 3?

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

Reid has never kicked more than 31 goals in a season. Only more than 17 four times. He's not the kind of forward we need.

 

[pjfairbairn]

Reid is probably valued ~30
So would you so 9,25 and 30 for 3?

I guess I valued Reid higher than Pick 30.

To me, pick 30 is a strong chance of developing to play > 50 games if all goes to plan, but no guarantee.

Reid would be automatically top 20 player, and our second best KPF, if he came. Yes, major issues in the past with injury, but likewise Daniher for Sydney and you take those risks on a needs basis.

 

[Gysberts2Bate]

I guess I valued Reid higher than Pick 30.

To me, pick 30 is a strong chance of developing to play > 50 games if all goes to plan, but no guarantee.

Reid would be automatically top 20 player, and our second best KPF, if he came. Yes, major issues in the past with injury, but likewise Daniher for Sydney and you take those risks on a needs basis.

He'll also be 28 by the time the season starts and realistically isn't going to get much better. I'd rather take a punt on an 18yo than hope Reid can put his best form on the table for a year or two while he's still peaking.

 

[stEdy]

Petty has more upside than a 28 year old, injury riddled Sam Reid. Christ, the Reid brothers are such teases, it would be a very melbourne pickup to overspend on an inconsistent, injury prone forward

 

[harry000]

I guess I valued Reid higher than Pick 30.

To me, pick 30 is a strong chance of developing to play > 50 games if all goes to plan, but no guarantee.

Reid would be automatically top 20 player, and our second best KPF, if he came. Yes, major issues in the past with injury, but likewise Daniher for Sydney and you take those risks on a needs basis.

If we were targeting a key forward Jeremy Finlayson as part of a package would be far better than Reid.

If we were going for a lesser valued player I'd prefer Mason Wood over Sam Reid. More upside.

 

[pjfairbairn]

Agree to disagree on this one. I've been to 5 or 6 Swans games this year and Reid has been very good.

 

[Devastating Boris]

Sounds like keeping pick 22 has nothing to do with the draft!!!

I’m hearing it is likely used in another potential trade.