List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

[Keys]

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Drafted

• Bo Allan - Pick 16
• Jobe Shanahan - Pick 30
• Tom Gross - Pick 46
• Lucca Grego - Pick 48
• Hamish Davis - Pick 65
• Malakai Champion - Cat B

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• One on either main OR rookie list to be filled as a SSP selection following train on assessments

Trade and draft period

In: F1, F2, F3, Baker, Owies, Graham, Allan, Shanahan, Gross, Grego, Davis, Champion
Out: 3, 63, F3, F4, Barrass, Darling

 

[Hook461123]

It goes to show where we are as a club atm when people are more worried about us doing something stupid then looking forward to getting a new draftee.

I’m hoping the talk about Hotton is due to us trading back in, not taking him with our first pick. If we trade hawks F1 for one of GWS picks and take Hotton then I’d be ok with that as long as got Reid or Lindsay with 12 already.

 

[eagles rule]

Issue is I'm scared Reid will be available and we fumble the bag again and pick someone else...

The others are Berry or Hotton who Wce have been talking too and will be on the board at that pick ..


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[Ambrose Burnside]

This below is stopping me from prematurely necking myself over us ****ing up the draft. Don't let me down Phil.

If it's anything like the draft "Warner would be an Eagle if Sydney won the Grand Final, but it's all good, I GOT US OWIES!!!" then neck away.

 

[In The Rod We Trust]

IF the saints were keen on a key position type would 12 and one of the F2s work to get ahead of Melb/Richmond for TT, Lindsay, Allan

 

[TerryFilk]

I think we are going to pick swap for sure somewhere. Pyke & Clarke have both alluded to it post the trade period. Buckle up campaigners

Jasper the ESPN guy has us trading Hawks F1 and a F2 for 23… to take MATT WHITLOCK.

If that eventuated, the melts on here might rival the pick 3 split.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

If it's anything like the draft "Warner would be an Eagle if Sydney won the Grand Final, but it's all good, I GOT US OWIES!!!" then neck away.

I didn't say i wouldn't neck myself, just that i wouldn't do it prematurely. I'll wait to see how we **** it up before doing so.

 

[garlic munchers]

Listening to Mini on Gettable saying that WC will take the best available talent with their first pick...

Reminds me of the time I told my wife I was going to buy a nice 780HTP Barcrusher to go fishing and that I would need to upgrade the ute because I needed better towing capacity (Pick 3).

Wife then stepped and said I could but only if I bought her a BMW first.

She now has a crappy BMW X1 (pick 72) and I've ended up with a Pick 14:


Rather than:



(WC draft strategy in pictures)

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Jasper the ESPN guy has us trading Hawks F1 and a F2 for 23… to take MATT WHITLOCK.

If that eventuated, the melts on here might rival the pick 3 split.

Jasper the ESPN guy isn't someone i'm aware of, and as a result imagine he has no inside knowledge. He's just throwing shit out given it hasn't been reported by more in the know reporters.

 

[Obeanie1]

I hope we draft draft 2 tall fwds and pyke has no choice but to sack clarke. Missing out on Jagga and Draper will haunt us like the 2001 draft and freo

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Is Clarke a dictator and noone else at the club has a single say in what he does?

Because that is what you are implying.

Which is clearly not correct.

 

[CountryLad]

My “Mini” mock draft

1:Tigers Lalor
2:Lions Ashcroft (bid matched)
3:Tigers FOS (trade 6 & 20 with Nth)
4:Blues Smith
5:Crows Draper
6:Melbourne Allan
7:Nth Tauru
8:Saints Langford
9:Saints Travaglia
10:Bombers Kako (matched bid)
11:Melbourne Berry
12:Tigers Smilie
13:Tigers Shanahan
14:Suns Lombard (Bid Matched)
15:Eagles Reid

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Except you only get top line picks every so often.

And the AFL has basically destroyed the integrity of the draft.

Geelong, Collingwood havent built their lists with top end picks have they.

Have the Hawks? No.

How has Gold Coast gone with dozens of top 10 picks? Still yet to play a single final.

So the facts clearly dont support you negative view on how to build a competitive list.

Hawks haven't won shit . There top end talent is thin

Collingwood had daicos degoey Pendlebury, sidebottom , Moore, quainor
All top 10ish picks .

Geelong are the most advantaged team in the afl.

We have no such luxury to win a premiership interstate without a glut of top end talent .

Stop being an apologist for the club .

 

[WCE_phil]

Why Jobe over Harry Armstrong?

Armstrong is more agile, great vertical leap and longer kick?

Stronger hands, takes the ball generally at a higher point, straighter long kick and has performed significantly better against men. (VFL and also local league) Also shown great leading patterns particularly from deep against men. A lot of those leading patterns tend to not show in the CTL or Champs due to the lower overall skill level and players not necessarily putting the ball to the forwards advantage as often.

This is my last post before the draft. I go into a long meeting in 8 minutes before we break for a few hours.

WCE pick will likely be around 5.20pm WA time.

I'll know the exact order of preference in an hours time. Pyke has had an input, I hope his input is laid down like the letter of the law as I know Massey's order.

 

[Mattman93]

Cal linking us strongly to Hotton now. “Red hot”. Didn’t think it could get much worse but if we turn pick 3 into Liam Baker and a bloke at 15 who’s coming off an ACL requiring multiple surgeries for complications then I was wrong.

Where's this?

 

[Keys]

First round draft picks last 10 years :

2013 - Dom Sheed
2014 - Liam Duggan

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Liam Duggan

Age

28

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.4

4star

K

10.1

4star

HB

5.3

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

283.7

4star

D

16.0

4star

K

12.0

5star

HB

4.0

3star

M

5.7

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

283.7

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.2

3star

2015 - Traded for Redden
2016 - Venables medically retired
2017 - Brander delisted
2018 - Traded for 2017 R2 picks (Allen, Ryan and Petruccelle)
2019 - Traded for Kelly
2020 - Traded for Kelly
2021 - Campbell Chesser
2022 - Rueben Ginbey and Elijah Hewett
2023 - Harley Reid

Six actual first round picks on our list and pick 12 tonight will make it 7

Richmond will add that many to their list tonight

Not blaming anyone, just saying

 

[WCE_phil]

Going in. Clarke has no say on any pick at all.

 

[Obeanie1]

People are going to say we ballsed it up regardless of who we pick.

Pretty much.

Haters gotta hate.

Negative people gotta be negative.

Have to chuckle at the keyboard experts getting so worked up about something totally outside their control.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

I'd be investigating whether he's trying to get fired and get a payout, only to pop back up at Richmond in a nice gig with a stacked young team he helped rebuild. The ultimate trojan horse experience

That's right up there with the wildest conspiracy theories like flat earth and global warming.

 

[FootyOutlier]

Who are Phil's faves in the draft?

Taj Hotton and Jack Whitlock

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

Stronger hands, takes the ball generally at a higher point, straighter long kick and has performed significantly better against men. (VFL and also local league) Also shown great leading patterns particularly from deep against men. A lot of those leading patterns tend to not show in the CTL or Champs due to the lower overall skill level and players not necessarily putting the ball to the forwards advantage as often.

This is my last post before the draft. I go into a long meeting in 8 minutes before we break for a few hours.

WCE pick will likely be around 5.20pm WA time.

I'll know the exact order of preference in an hours time. Pyke has had an input, I hope his input is laid down like the letter of the law as I know Massey's order.

Hello papa Phillip.

In four hours I will post three shrimp emojis. Your correspondence will proceed as follows:

Like = Reid
Heart react = Shanahan
Laugh react = Hotton
Surprised react = you want to go out for dinner with me
Sad react = Hynes
Angry react = Berry
Dislike react = Trade

Have a lovely long meeting, I will see you here.

 

[Obeanie1]

First round draft picks last 10 years :

2013 - Dom Sheed
2014 - Liam Duggan
2015 - Traded for Redden
2016 - Venables medically retired
2017 - Brander delisted
2018 - Traded for 2017 R2 picks (Allen, Ryan and Petruccelle)
2019 - Traded for Kelly
2020 - Traded for Kelly
2021 - Campbell Chesser
2022 - Rueben Ginbey and Elijah Hewett
2023 - Harley Reid

Six actual first round picks on our list and pick 12 tonight will make it 7

Richmond will add that many to their list tonight

Not blaming anyone, just saying

If we traded out Duggan (Baker) and Reid (Bolton) we would hold 7 picks too tonight.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

Was possibly a bad test, I’ve watched a lot of him and he’s not that slow. He’s not Draper pace either but he’s certainly not a plodder.

Its such a short test with no room for error, I'm surprised its just one attempt rather than taking the average across numerous attempts.

Slightly slow reaction or a misstep can be the difference between 3.0 & 3.2. Suddenly "burst of speed" becomes "trickle slow".

 

[Yeahnahmate]

Going in. Clarke has no say on any pick at all.

No say, wtaf

 

[new breed]

Eyes wide open for this draft ..

 

[TerryFilk]

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Jasper the ESPN guy isn't someone i'm aware of, and as a result imagine he has no inside knowledge. He's just throwing shit out given it hasn't been reported by more in the know reporters.

I disagree, Jasper is pretty good at what he does.

Twomey has also said we’re trying to get back into this draft with the Hawks F.

 

[Spooky17]

Going in. Clarke has no say on any pick at all.

Thank ****