List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

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Key Dates

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• Oct 17 to Nov 8: Pick swap window
• Nov 1 to Nov 8: Delisted free agency period
• Nov 20-21: Telstra AFL Draft
• Nov 22: Telstra Pre-Season Draft and Rookie Draft

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• 6 Main list
• 1 Rookie list

Current Draft Picks

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• Main Draft - 12,26,73,81,99
• Rookie Draft - 3

Recent News
• Luke Edwards delisted after deciding to step away from football due to ongoing concussion symptoms

 

[amazingjoshy]

Deeply sad that we don't have third round picks to pluck the next Long, Jilliams or Johnston. I know he has had is injury troubles but I hope we pick up Luke Urquhart if he is there later or as a rookie

Think this has been brought up by another poster but a reason for the big gap in picks could be to not have those picks sucked up by a Champion bid.

Rather than having to trade out and then back in again we can just trade in if Champion gets an earlier than expected bid or if someone we like slides

 

[We_The_West]

You've got to hand it to O'Brien, he was brilliant at selecting talls. J Williams in the 4th round is crazy.

J Williams should be a huge improver next year and will be a big factor in the charge back up the ladder. Jarryd Roughead FF/ruck role… very smart player with huge upside

 

[Obeanie1]

Chesser as a balanced mid my ar$e. That is a pipe dream that will never eventuate. He does not have the football iq. Hopefully the last of the Pieman’s impact of athlete over footballer. Watching him live, he is confused where to go and what to do. His only hope is as a run and carry hbf

Johnson has it all to be a winger

Maric - agree he could be in all thirds of the ground

Bookmarked on Chesser.

He is not small and has some wheels.

Call it a pipe dream but that's where we should train him and play him.

Get him at the coal face and involved in the game more. No sitting on the defensive wing.

 

[mehow2g]

Bo Allen would be handy...

 

[Dark Sharks]

Lel, bookmark any Chesser shade all you want. He's going into his 4th season as a first round selection and still probably hasn't cemented a position in a bottom 3 side yet.


He's barely played midfield fleetingly in the WAFL, which netted him disposal returns of 17, 18, 23 and 17.

AFL level, whether due to the gimp wing role or not, the bloke drifts in and out of games like an absolute ghost. It's encouraging to see him hit the scoreboard, that's the best part of his game at the moment IMO, but for the rest of it it's generally pretty bland and replaceable. As mentioned previously, his numbers this season went backwards on his previous season.

If he's such an athlete i'd love for him to take the game on more. Really curious about what the club envisisioned his role would be when they drafted him. HBF? Wing? Seems like very much a nothing pick right now, just an athlete, like Brander.

It's a big year for him, OOC at the end of the season.

 

[Grahame]

Pretty shit if you got drafted only to be quarantined whilst your mate from the draft goes to an afl club

Funny if a whole lot of Vic players on the Tas list said 'we don't want to leave Victoria'. The vAFL would soon be pushed into action.

 

[Grahame]

Hes still the captain

When's our leadership group and capt/v.capt announced?

 

[stallon]

Bookmarked on Chesser.

He is not small and has some wheels.

Call it a pipe dream but that's where we should train him and play him.

Get him at the coal face and involved in the game more. No sitting on the defensive wing.

Id like to see him play the receiver mid, put him in there with some bigger bodies who can do the contested work to release him on the outside. I dont think he is or ever will be a high production player, but those attacking mids dont have to be.
Hes a decent kick, and hes obviously got pace which suit that role too.

Problem is we have Yeo, Kelly, Hewett and Reid who we would like to be in that similar sort of breakaway from clearance role. Hope we can try him in there though

 

[stallon]

When's our leadership group and capt/v.capt announced?

Oscar was announced as co-captain last year mate

 

[thebutterflyeffect]

Good news is Long and Jilliams were both 4th round picks and we have one of those (pick 73)

Agree re Urquhart. Wouldn’t be unhappy in the slightest if he found his way onto our list with a late pick.

Pick 12 for a couple of fourth rounders?

 

[sharps24]

Thats not what im doing lmao.
I still expect us to be in the bottom area of the ladder, and when we lose to a poor team, or have a slow start to the year, or whatever theyll pile on.

We all know its gonna happen, but having it happen with no first round picks is going to give the media more ammo, which WILL affect how the average fan thinks about the club

It's just a ridiculously long bow to be drawing about using or not using pick 12.

For a start we have a new coach so even if we are terrible we will be given some leeway there. Victorian coach, implementing Victorian game style, most of the media will fall over backwards to back this in and call for patience. Remembering also that it's hard to seperate the acquisition of Mini McWalter, Mini Baker, and Maxi Graham.

Ontop of that its almost inconceivable we can play as poorly as we have in the last 3 years given something like 40 players have been let go over that time and just about everyone left on the list is either a proven entity at AFL level or under 21 and in development. If we stink it up then the draft will be the last thing anyone is talking about, the media will criticise any and all of,

Underperforming senior players
Team selection
Poor fitness
Poor coaching
Harley Reid not being up to it because he should be winning every game off his own boot

I we do something with pick 12 other staying in and drafting best available, I will delete my account if at any stage next year someone writes an article about why that's the reason the team is performing poorly.

 

[beagles]

It's just a ridiculously long bow to be drawing about using or not using pick 12.

For a start we have a new coach so even if we are terrible we will be given some leeway there. Victorian coach, implementing Victorian game style, most of the media will fall over backwards to back this in and call for patience. Remembering also that it's hard to seperate the acquisition of Mini McWalter, Mini Baker, and Maxi Graham.

Ontop of that its almost inconceivable we can play as poorly as we have in the last 3 years given something like 40 players have been let go over that time and just about everyone left on the list is either a proven entity at AFL level or under 21 and in development. If we stink it up then the draft will be the last thing anyone is talking about, the media will criticise any and all of,

Underperforming senior players
Team selection
Poor fitness
Poor coaching
Harley Reid not being up to it because he should be winning every game off his own boot

I we do something with pick 12 other staying in and drafting best available, I will delete my account if at any stage next year someone writes an article about why that's the reason the team is performing poorly.

We got rid of pick 3 so it's too late now. Poor performance and criticism is on its way. Pick 12 is not going to save us...

It's going to be a long year! Better get prepared for account deletion.

 

[sharps24]

We got rid of pick 3 so it's too late now. Poor performance and criticism is on its way. Pick 12 is not going to save us...

It's going to be a long year! Better get prepared for account deletion.

I don't recall saying anything about it being a good idea to split pick 3 in order to get Baker. If that's criticised then so be it, nothing to do with this. If Baker plays well it's unlikely to be a narrative though. And if I were betting my account on how well we play next year then adding Baker and Graham and Owies is going to do more for avoiding media criticism for performance than bringing pick 3 into the midfield rotation would have. [or pick 12 for that matter]

 

[stallon]

It's just a ridiculously long bow to be drawing about using or not using pick 12.

For a start we have a new coach so even if we are terrible we will be given some leeway there. Victorian coach, implementing Victorian game style, most of the media will fall over backwards to back this in and call for patience. Remembering also that it's hard to seperate the acquisition of Mini McWalter, Mini Baker, and Maxi Graham.

No chance, the media loves talking shit about a poor performing interstate club.

Ontop of that its almost inconceivable we can play as poorly as we have in the last 3 years given something like 40 players have been let go over that time and just about everyone left on the list is either a proven entity at AFL level or under 21 and in development. If we stink it up then the draft will be the last thing anyone is talking about, the media will criticise any and all of,

Underperforming senior players
Team selection
Poor fitness
Poor coaching
Harley Reid not being up to it because he should be winning every game off his own boot

I didnt suggest we will be as poor as 2024 or 2024.
The media doesnt give a **** about list turnover, theyll just point at the lack of "top end talent" and call us a basket case who is doomed to spend the next 10 years rebuilding, have you not paid any attention to the media at all?

The average uninformed fan will just see headlines and 30 sec clips from SEN or whatever and that will shape their thinking. The club wants to make money, they dont want those shit headlines going around all next year. Dont tell me it doesnt matter what the media thinks either, because it does.

I we do something with pick 12 other staying in and drafting best available, I will delete my account if at any stage next year someone writes an article about why that's the reason the team is performing poorly.

They wont mention pick 12 so much, theyll go back to pick 3 when they talk about it because it sounds worse.

 

[sharps24]

No chance, the media loves talking shit about a poor performing interstate club.

I didnt suggest we will be as poor as 2024 or 2024.
The media doesnt give a **** about list turnover, theyll just point at the lack of "top end talent" and call us a basket case who is doomed to spend the next 10 years rebuilding, have you not paid any attention to the media at all?

The average uninformed fan will just see headlines and 30 sec clips from SEN or whatever and that will shape their thinking. The club wants to make money, they dont want those shit headlines going around all next year. Dont tell me it doesnt matter what the media thinks either, because it does.

They wont mention pick 12 so much, theyll go back to pick 3 when they talk about it because it sounds worse.

So we're going to improve but the media is still going to criticise us? But they aren't going to talk about pick 12 they are going to talk about pick 3... ok fine. I guess we don't have any disagreement because I'm not even sure what this conversation is about anymore. Let's move on.

 

[Obeanie1]

Bo Allen would be handy...

If better options are gone yes.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

Pretty shit if you got drafted only to be quarantined whilst your mate from the draft goes to an afl club

I don't think it will be 18yr olds eligible for an AFL list being quarantined, but rather 17yr olds getting drafted a year early.

From memory, Coniglio, Martin and Swallow were drafted under this scheme and early access to Hogan & was traded to the Dees.

 

[Cornelius Roy]

Bookmarked on Chesser.

He is not small and has some wheels.

Call it a pipe dream but that's where we should train him and play him.

Get him at the coal face and involved in the game more. No sitting on the defensive wing.

Gee, The whole defensive wing thing is becoming a bit of a meme much like blaming the clubs development for rotham not becoming a star.

Chesser needs to work on actually impacting the chain of possession when he’s in proximity to the ball. I saw more times than I’d have liked where he made it to the contest last year only to stop on the outside and ball watch the contest or the player running away.

Time to step up and decide if you want to be a runner or a footballer.

 

[eaglevision]

If better options are gone yes.

It’s taken a while to land on when I’d want to split as opposed to taking a player but in order of preference for pick 12 I’d go:

Travaglia
Lindsay
Trade 12 to Swans for 19 (Hynes) + 22 (Oliver)
Berry
Allan

 

[mat11]

It’s taken a while to land on when I’d want to split as opposed to taking a player but in order of preference for pick 12 I’d go:

Travaglia
Lindsay
Trade 12 to Swans for 19 (Hynes) + 22 (Oliver)
Berry
Allan

I was thinking the same, If it gets to our pick and it's Allan and a stack of key forwards I'd be looking to split. Nothing against Allan I just think he's a reach at 12 -15. If he was available at 26-30 sure

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[stallon]

Im a bit bigger than most on Allan it seems.

Travaglia
Allan/Smillie/a mid slider - realistically itll be max 1 of these available here anyway
Lindsay
consider splitting if we can get Hynes+something in the 20s

 

[Goomba1973]

Hes still the captain

Yes and that does add value, but we need our captain on the park more than what he has been.

 

[eaglevision]

We’ve just picked up Lindsay in the phantom draft after missing Travaglia by one pick. Great pick Monocle but like you I’ll be devastated if we miss Travaglia by a single pick.

 

[Grahame]

Oscar was announced as co-captain last year mate

Yes I think I got the mail, mate. Okay mate let me spell it out more clearly for you mate: when is the 2025 leadership group and capt/v.capt announced? Mate.

Leadership groups and captains do change. Mate.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Is this better or worse than a "champ'?