List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

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Pick 12 is going to North is my gut feel for their F1. And we have a deal to trade back in using F2s for a slider we like (Trainor?). Feel like we’ll do something out of the box with Travaglia/Lindsay/Allan starting to look like they’ll be gone.
 
Pick 12 is going to North is my gut feel for their F1. And we have a deal to trade back in using F2s for a slider we like (Trainor?). Feel like we’ll do something out of the box with Travaglia/Lindsay/Allan starting to look like they’ll be gone.

We'll probably bungle it and trade out 12 planning to get back in but then fail to do that and be stuck with like 1 pick inside 30 and then Champion - end draft.
 
Not having a go at you, but similar was said before the GF

How’d that work out for us

It’s been that sort of trade/draft period where best laid plans haven’t come to fruition

Guess we’ll see what happens Wednesday/Thursday
We are also so far away from controlling our own destiny its insane. No one has a plan. We have fingers crossed only
 
Cals final phantom's are normally pretty accurate at this point, hopefully this is once again the case.

To pickup a talent rated top 5 for the majority of the year (until now bizarrely) after pissing away pick 3 would be a great result.

Probably won't happen now and we'll get Berry, amirite.
That would be berry berry bad :(
 

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Ignoring bidding etc. I can see the top 12 being

1. Matthews
2. Judd
3. Voss
4. SOS
5. Wanganeen
6. Bartel
7. Modra
8. Goodes
9. Tredrea
10. Pendlebury
11. Coventry
12. Luke Tapscott
 
HUN have an article on who each club is linked to and possible pick swaps. Here is the write up on us


Eagles fans can rest easy that they are going to get a quality talent with the pick they received from Carlton in their much scrutinised trade – but it appears unlikely to be Bo Allan. The top prospect from WA has strong interest from St Kilda, Melbourne and Richmond who hold multiple picks before West Coast and it would be a surprise to see him get to the Eagles’ pick 12. It means versatile Vic Country playmakers Xavier Lindsay and Tobie Travaglia – whose girlfriend is the sister of Eagles player Tom Cole’s wife – could be available, with the Eagles linked to both.

Bendigo Pioneers key forward Jobe Shanahan is a big contender with the Eagles putting in late work on the marking forward, who has impacted at VFL level this season. Small forward Joe Berry is another who can address a glaring need.
At their second pick, the Eagles are fans of Dandenong Stingrays forward-midfielder Cooper Hynes and GWV Rebels small forward Ollie Hannaford. After losing Tom Barrass, they have expressed interest in competitive key defender Noah Mraz – who may be off the board by their second selection – and are eyeing off South Fremantle defender Tom Bell as a later pick. All-Australian Clancy Dennis is another WA key back with appeal at the back-end, while they are among the clubs who could place a bid on St Kilda NGA defender Lenny Hofmann.

The Eagles have done their homework on Geelong Falcons midfielder Xavier Ivisic and are among local footy smokey Sam Toner’s suitors. They have nominated NGA speedster Malakai Champion, who finished second in the agility test and fifth the 20m sprint at the combine, and could receive a late bid or slide to the rookie draft. West Coast have also showed a continued interest throughout the year in raw Sudanese ruckman Ajang Kuol mun, 22, who won the vertical jump test at the state combine.


Take away points
1. Pick 12 focuss is on Travaglia, Lindsay or Shanahan.
2. Pick 26 focuss is on Hynes, Hannaford or Mraz
3. Later pick with Bell or Dennis
4. We might bid on Hofmann (I hope not as he is only 190cm and his 2 improvement areas are kick consistency and 1on1 defending. But there again St Blunders picked our pocket with Collard so revenge.
5. Very late picks Ivisic (mid) and Toner (smaller forward) and Ajang Kuol mun (Geelong Falcons ruck at 2020cm)
6. Champion bid not expected until very late to not at all meaning he can be taken as a rookie


I would be OK with us eyeing off GWS picks 56 and 73. After bids, they will come in to mid to about 40 and 60 (I have made some assumption on the FS and academy bids and the picks used to match). They may want for Logan Smith so not clear on that. Not sure what future would be required for 56 and 73 - maybe only the Hawks F3.

If we take Shanahan at 12 (who I do rate highly and would be a good KPP that could start back), I would be hoping we try to get a couple of picks in the 30's or 40's to add to 26 who I expect to then be a mid. We could go for a bigger Essendon trade where we do 26 and futures for 28, 31 40 and futures. Not sure what it would take but less of a premium payable if we agree to buy in and sell out with the same club It is effectively a downgrade of 2 (26 to 28) plus 31 and 40. I will refrain from stating the futures involved as that creates a sh1tshow and leave that up to personal interpretation.

2024 draft hand then becomes
12
28
31
40
72
77

Obviously 2025 weakened hand but still very strong.



I think our picks 72 and 77 likely come in to being around 60 and 65 by the time the bids have been taken and picks used to match. With the minimum of 197 points discount, I suggest we have Champion well and truly covered. so we may get 2 late picks and there is no Champion bid and he goes to rookie list.

Another way to get a mid 50's pick would be to trade the 3 x F3 from Crows for the Hawk's F2. Norf want a F2 to go with pick 4 in exchange for pick 2. New points system next year and I expect the 3 x F3 will only deliver 2025 points of combined 300 to 400 while the Hawks F2 is 429 if they finish 6th. So the deal would be 3 x F3 plus 64 this year (Crows hold and will likely in to be mid to late 50's pick). It would leave us in 2025 with 2 x F1, 1 x F2 and 4 x F3. Points only allocated to first 3 round picks in 2025.
Ajang Kuol mun (Geelong Falcons ruck at 2020cm) Sounds like he is a little bit too tall.
Doubt the umpires will bounce or throw up the ball that high.
 
Bowman at 30 was strange especially with better options still on the board. We have plenty of better Bowmans on our list already.

Twomey had him linked to a few clubs so there must be interest in him from clubs but feel like he’s not really sure who we’re likely to take so threw Bowman up as an option with the last pick in his phantom
 

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