A-League The A-League Expansion Thread

[TheGreatBarryB]

Took this from reddit, its quite funny. Fits the the situation perfectly of what a mess this whole expansion process is.
Victory have such a stronghold in the whole city. no one out west has been crying out for a team, so i cant see how they are going to get a following getting smashed each week in a massive empty stadium in Geelong.

League won’t progress with just 10 teams. Dumbest decision is not having two teams enter next season

 

[Heardy_101]

That map is the reason why South should've gotten in. ..

 

[hamohawk1]

Call me silly but can't see the government at any level giving funding to the stadium being built for a purely 'soccer' stadium. These days it seems they like as much use out of any new stadium or training facility rather than having something go to one purpose.

 

[Colonial]

Call me silly but can't see the government at any level giving funding to the stadium being built for a purely 'soccer' stadium. These days it seems they like as much use out of any new stadium or training facility rather than having something go to one purpose.

The club is paying for the stadium(supposedly).
Government gave them the land to use.

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[Heardy_101]

Moot point, but surely the Storm should play some games there as well, or a NSW club should relocate one or two home games (or relocate in general)

 

[brucetiki]

Moot point, but surely the Storm should play some games there as well, or a NSW club should relocate one or two home games (or relocate in general)

Hasn't the consortium already said they'll set it up so it's impossible for other sports to play there?

They'd be crazy not to be make it multi-purpose though.

 

[jd2010]

That infrastructure in the west is coming anyway, stadium or no stadium.

Maybe by 2030

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Moot point, but surely the Storm should play some games there as well, or a NSW club should relocate one or two home games (or relocate in general)

Storm have absolutely no reason to play there. They’ve got a new stadium, beautifully positioned and perfect for them. You wouldn’t go to Tarneit just because it’s there.

 

[Zidane98]

Hasn't the consortium already said they'll set it up so it's impossible for other sports to play there?

They'd be crazy not to be make it multi-purpose though.

Surely they'd accept revenue from concerts and the like. Makes sense to play a few Storm / Rebel games there every year to increase the ROI. Especially when there's no A League on.

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

That map is the reason why South should've gotten in. ..

South need to take their $20m license fee raised, bank it and bide their time.

In 4 or less years when Western Melbourne is in trouble financially, South should swoop in and buy the club.

When it happened to Melbourne Heart, South didn't have the cash to do it. They are in a much better position financially now.

That's the only way they will get into the A-league. Same strategy applies to Wellington Phoenix's license.

 

[darko]

Knowing South they only showed the briefcase saying it contains 20 mill but never actually opened it.

 

[Heardy_101]

South need to take their $20m license fee raised, bank it and bide their time.

In 4 or less years when Western Melbourne is in trouble financially, South should swoop in and buy the club.

When it happened to Melbourne Heart, South didn't have the cash to do it. They are in a much better position financially now.

That's the only way they will get into the A-league. Same strategy applies to Wellington Phoenix's license.

I have a very sneaky suspicion that Wellington are going to make way for Canberra. The press releases by Canberra and the FFA are waaaaaaay to obvious.

I think South's next best option would be the Second Division and go from there.

 

[brucetiki]

Surely they'd accept revenue from concerts and the like. Makes sense to play a few Storm / Rebel games there every year to increase the ROI. Especially when there's no A League on.

That would be the logical thing to do, though outdoor concert season is generally during A-League season.

The owners will probably be so bullish about the stadium surviving on soccer along that the’re more likely to lure Kevin Mitchell Jnr as curator of the ground, who will start ‘preparing’ the pitch for the next A-League season in May to ensure no one else can use it.

 

[Tandy]

Would have rather team 11. Corruption

 

[Colonial]

Moot point, but surely the Storm should play some games there as well, or a NSW club should relocate one or two home games (or relocate in general)

Rugby league supposedly wont fit on the ground.
The grandstands are all going to be pretty much on the sideline.

According to WMG anyway.

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[Colonial]

The owners will probably be so bullish about the stadium surviving on soccer along that the’re more likely to lure Kevin Mitchell Jnr as curator of the ground, who will start ‘preparing’ the pitch for the next A-League season in May to ensure no one else can use it.

Thatll be a nice change.

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[Silent Alarm]

Surely they'd accept revenue from concerts and the like. Makes sense to play a few Storm / Rebel games there every year to increase the ROI. Especially when there's no A League on.

What concerts are going to be held there? Why would an arena act play half way to Geelong instead of central?

Their best chance is tying into a greater sporting facility.

If they have a W-League team (are they getting one?) then you can try and make it the designated women's soccer venue for Melbourne, with training pitches nearby. I don't know how political or hard City and Victory W-League are, but they could be coaxed to play there.

 

[Gigantor]

What concerts are going to be held there? Why would an arena act play half way to Geelong instead of central?

Their best chance is tying into a greater sporting facility.

If they have a W-League team (are they getting one?) then you can try and make it the designated women's soccer venue for Melbourne, with training pitches nearby. I don't know how political or hard City and Victory W-League are, but they could be coaxed to play there.

Coaxed to play out of Tarneit? Can't see it, both city and Victory have pretty good facilities. City already has the best womens facilities in Australia.

 

[Silent Alarm]

Coaxed to play out of Tarneit? Can't see it, both city and Victory have pretty good facilities. City already has the best womens facilities in Australia.

Yeah right, where do the Victory women play?

The weird thing about all of this is it seems team 11 were the prime choice. Then it dropped that the stadium out there wasn't a certainty. From then on west Melbourne went from a peripheral bid – maybe the least discussed by fans and the media – to a front-runner. I can understand that if there's been a pledge from the government, but there hasn't. Where's the proof there's going to be one?

The thought now is the FFA have taken the highest bids as a bit of a 'yoink!' before the new commission takes over the A-League.

In which case, how stupid do you have to be to let the outgoing party decide on someone else's future?

 

[craigos]

Hasn't the consortium already said they'll set it up so it's impossible for other sports to play there?

They'd be crazy not to be make it multi-purpose though.

Surely they'd accept revenue from concerts and the like. Makes sense to play a few Storm / Rebel games there every year to increase the ROI. Especially when there's no A League on.

Why would they want to? These financial backers they have, that they don't want to disclose (c'mon, who buys a football club to remain anonymous???) have so much money they're building their own stadium.

Not to forget that they're all Australian investors and word still hasn't gotten out who they are? That doesn't add up to me.

 

[Gigantor]

Yeah right, where do the Victory women play?

The weird thing about all of this is it seems team 11 were the prime choice. Then it dropped that the stadium out there wasn't a certainty. From then on west Melbourne went from a peripheral bid – maybe the least discussed by fans and the media – to a front-runner. I can understand that if there's been a pledge from the government, but there hasn't. Where's the proof there's going to be one?

The thought now is the FFA have taken the highest bids as a bit of a 'yoink!' before the new commission takes over the A-League.

In which case, how stupid do you have to be to let the outgoing party decide on someone else's future?

Yes, Team 11 was about to be given the tick, but the Government guarantee never came through, and that was that.

The secretive WMG, with its anonymous financial backers comes from nowhere, appear to have been gifted land by wyndham.

No one is doing any digging. Nothing to see here. The FFA reckon they have done their due diligence on whoever is behind this, we shall see.

Anyway, the point I was making above remains, no one else is going to be using those facilities out in the middle of nowhere.

 

[TommyD13]

Rather than being upset about the bids chosen, Im more so excited to see how the new club is formed and what colours/badge/kit they go with. I'm guessing red and white from all the concepts we have seen so far but who knows.

 

[Gigantor]

Why would they want to? These financial backers they have, that they don't want to disclose (c'mon, who buys a football club to remain anonymous???) have so much money they're building their own stadium.

Not to forget that they're all Australian investors and word still hasn't gotten out who they are? That doesn't add up to me.

There is one possibility where the financials make some sense. Otherwise, very difficult to reconcile how anyone in their right mind would build a sports stadium out in the middle of nowhere. Wyndham better have this agreement written nice and tight, to make sure whoever is behind this doesn't just go about building 100s of cheap town houses on the land they were gifted, and then disappears from the scene before any expensive stadium starts getting built.

In AFL land, it's quite funny how fans of Melbourne, Richmond, Collingwood and Hawthorn have trouble travelling two kilometres from the MCG to Docklands, but this new club thinks fans will flock to Tarneit from 40 to 80km away. I don't see it happening.

 

[Silent Alarm]

Rather than being upset about the bids chosen, Im more so excited to see how the new club is formed and what colours/badge/kit they go with. I'm guessing red and white from all the concepts we have seen so far but who knows.

It'll be butchered.

I'm still absolutely amazed by the Wanderers. Black and red is a bit of a colour set but the strip is exactly what everyone wanted and it's timeless and not pink or electric green. The name is nifty and historical and just sounds good. And it's one of the better badges in any Australian sport. The fact it was a completely FFA funded set-up makes this all the more amazing. And let's not forget who their first or third signing was...

But yeah this'll be butchered. It'll be some vague name with a gimmicky nickname or something completely phoned in like 'AFC Real Western' or something. And they'll get some shitkickers like Macron to produce a nasty looking strip with 19 sponsors on it despite the fact they (maybe??) have money coming out of their whatever it is that makes them money.

 

[Silent Alarm]

Word is the Canberra bid was backed by Fenway Group (Boston Red Sox, Liverpool) or Red Bull.


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