Opinion The Adelaide Board Politics/COVID Thread Part 3

[kirky]

The whole idea is akin to Kruddy's beer coaster of days bygone....make it up as you go along on steroids yet they're asking Australians to vote on something with at best scant details....it's an absolute joke but of course a rusted on ALP luvvie like you thinks it's wonderful.

Just like Rudd's "sorry" it won't make one iota of difference to the lives of indigenous folk most in need on many fronts.

No doubt all the city dwelling lefties like you and your like think it's going to be all rainbows and fairies but the reality will be a very different beast.

Absolutely laughable.

I am fully aware of how the bureaucracy has been ripping off the indigenous population for years - how does one explain that with the billions provided to First Nations supposedly and yet no improvement in overall outcomes? There are a lot of people who have made money and as many in business as well out of all this.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

So… Gavin Newsom…?

OneGreatJoe is being back stabbed from all directions. Kirky will be calling his mates in the USA that have survived the Covid spreading MAGA's wtf is going on

 

[kirky]

Just have a read from a Constitutional Lawyer -

An Indigenous Voice to Parliament will not give ‘special rights’ or create a veto

An expert group formed to advise on the Voice to Parliament finds it will not give any group of Australians special rights over any other.

theconversation.com

And this

What do we know about the Voice to Parliament design, and what do we still need to know?

There has been much debate about the “details” of the Voice to Parliament, but the referendum is on the principle.

theconversation.com

 

[Maddogmetro]

Pretty sure you and others argued on here for the longest time that the risks of vaccine-induced mycocarditis were lower than Covid-induced mycocarditis.

And now your argument is what? That despite the increased risk of myocarditis, the other ”benefits” of this vaccine still outweigh that increased risk?

Maybe that’s your position, and maybe as the study indicates, that’s the FDA’s position (big surprise).

But the logical position is that when we are talking about the risk of lifelong heart damage, and a vaccine under emergency use authorization for children, that risk assessment should always have been left up to the individual.

Do you seriously disagree with that?

By the way, the FDA also currently thinks that travellers entering the United States need to be “double vaccinated.”

Do you think that the FDA might be just a little bit full of s**t?

Interesting that you have labelled all instances of myocarditis as 'life long heart damage', when in the vast majority of cases it is not that at all, but in fact minor and temporary.

Hyperbole of this nature is further evidence of the lack of reliability in your posts.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Interesting that you have labelled all instances of myocarditis as 'life long heart damage', when in the vast majority of cases it is not that at all, but in fact minor and temporary.

Hyperbole of this nature is further evidence of the lack of reliability in your posts.

Should it have been mandated?

 

[Slippery Pete]

Cue Mad Flog leaving the thread

 

[Slippery Pete]

OneGreatJoe is being back stabbed from all directions. Kirky will be calling his mates in the USA that have survived the Covid spreading MAGA's wtf is going on

A few of us speculated a few weeks ago that they were getting ready to throw Brandon under the bus.

Good thing for Brandon is he won’t know he’s under the bus, because he doesn’t even know where he is.

 

[Mutineer]

Absolutely laughable.

I am fully aware of how the bureaucracy has been ripping off the indigenous population for years - how does one explain that with the billions provided to First Nations supposedly and yet no improvement in overall outcomes? There are a lot of people who have made money and as many in business as well out of all this.

And this will be the same, just another feel good episode in a long history.

There is already more people in the Australian Parliament with indigenous heritage as a percentage of population than for all othe Australians...they already have a very strong voice in Parliament...maybe they need to get more pro-active making their voices heard. How many of them actually live within 500km of where the troublesome areas are?

I notice you conveniently didn't reply to Vader's posts...

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Wow kirky , did you know about this!
?

 

[fortunatecrow]

A few of us speculated a few weeks ago that they were getting ready to throw Brandon under the bus.

Good thing for Brandon is he won’t know he’s under the bus, because he doesn’t even know where he is.

He'll be telling the bus that he too was a bus, when he worked for the secret service

 

[Jetafl]

Breaking Jacinda resigning from top job Feb.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern resigning by February 7, announces election 2023 will be held on October 14

Here's what Ardern said.

www.newshub.co.nz

 

[Slippery Pete]

If in fact they are getting ready to shaft Biden, it really speaks volumes about who the Democrats are, at their core.

Biden has so far, among other things, gotten away with:

-A botched Afghanistan exit costing the lives of 13 US troops
-Rampant inflation and increases in cost of living
-Openly admitting children should be allowed to change their sex
-Massive crisis at the southern border
-Full embrace of identity politics and selecting people based on their race, sex etc
-Ridiculous, nonsensical, oppressive Covid and vaccine mandate policies
-Hunter Biden shenanigans



But it was pieces of paper in his Corvette, that was what they really needed to nail him!

 

[Slippery Pete]

Breaking Jacinta resigning from top job Feb.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern resigning by February 7, announces election 2023 will be held on October 14

Here's what Ardern said.

www.newshub.co.nz

Says she no longer has “enough in the tank.”

Doesn‘t she mean the feed bag?

 

[LeftyLuke]

Interesting that you have labelled all instances of myocarditis as 'life long heart damage', when in the vast majority of cases it is not that at all, but in fact minor and temporary.

Hyperbole of this nature is further evidence of the lack of reliability in your posts.

There's no such thing as benign myocarditis. This is an argument thrown out by mRNA vaccine cheerleaders who haven't had myocarditis themself, don't know anyone who has and who have no clue about cardiology.

 

[Slippery Pete]

There's no such thing as benign myocarditis. This is an argument thrown out by mRNA vaccine cheerleaders who haven't had myocarditis themself, don't know anyone who has and who have no clue about cardiology.

Their argument has retreated to “Well at least your heart will only be damaged in the short-term!”

That’s really where they are at.

Incredible. But not surprising.

 

[LeftyLuke]

Breaking Jacinda resigning from top job Feb.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern resigning by February 7, announces election 2023 will be held on October 14

Here's what Ardern said.

www.newshub.co.nz

Good that she's doing the right thing. I wish her well in horse training.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Agree 100%, Major General Andrew James Molan, was a True Leader who knew how to treat and look after his men, While Angus Campbell is a Politician of the worst kind in Uniform.

A good tweet and some very good replies

 

[Jetafl]

Says she no longer has “enough in the tank.”

Doesn‘t she mean the feed bag?


View attachment 1589048

I sure hope that pic is carbon neutral as Jacinda likes to be green like kermit the frog.

 

[Maddogmetro]

There's no such thing as benign myocarditis. This is an argument thrown out by mRNA vaccine cheerleaders who haven't had myocarditis themself, don't know anyone who has and who have no clue about cardiology.

Are you an expert in cardiology?

 

[Eagleboy2011]

“President Biden promised the most ethical and transparent administration in history,”

OMG He has even lost this most corrupt supporter.

 

[LeftyLuke]

1. “one of the world's leading cardiologists”. Interesting use of superlative. Based on...?

2. Pete. Pete. How many times do we have to go through this Pete. Check the source. Read the article before posting it. Once. Please.

1. This study was published around a year ago. It presents a useful analysis of risk of cardiac related complications during the 28 day period post-COVID vaccination, and consistent with what many similar studies have also shown, illustrates that rates of these complications are very low, but highest among young men. This is nothing new.
2. As has been pointed out in here on numerous occasions, those studies which have compared the risk of adverse events caused by COVID vaccines vs risk of adverse events caused by COVID infection among unvaccinated have consistently shown that while there are some rare adverse events caused by COVID vaccines (as is the case with almost all vaccines), the frequency and severity of these events is outweighed in every age group by adverse events associated with COVID infection among unvaccinated.

Here the authors note:


All this tweet you've shared shows is that even qualified doctors can be guilty of failing to properly read a study, or misrepresenting data.

Who did the study you reference? Pfizer or Moderna or one of the government bodies they pay and control or one of the journals they pay and control? Anyone can design a biased study that paints an incorrect result to help commercial outcomes. You couldn't be more wrong in your response and seems like it's written by a health bureaucrat that is financially invested in a sham untested technology.

What's your threshold for adverse events and death? Alright as long as it doesn't happen to you or your family? 1 death in 10,000 and 1 adverse event per 1000? The latest evidence suggests that 1 death per 1000 and 1 adverse event per 100 are more likely the accurate figure and this is being conservative. Other vaccines have been stopped for deaths of 1 in 100,000 but hey let's keep killing people with a product that doesn't work.

You also havent seen the latest report that came out of NSW of all places that showed that unvaccinated were the least likely to end up in hospital sick with covid while those jabbed 3 and 4 times were considerably more likely to end up in hospital ill. It might be time to admit defeat on this one. Backing a product that wasn't even remotely developed to any professional standards before it was released is not a good horse to back.

 

[Maddogmetro]

Their argument has retreated to “Well at least your heart will only be damaged in the short-term!”

That’s really where they are at.

Incredible. But not surprising.

It isn't an 'argument', it is correcting your error. Again.

And you can try to use language to maximise the issue as much as you want. The fact is that it that in the vast majority of cases the effect is temporary and minor.

Why are you not raging against all the minor side-effects of every single other medicinal product in existence?

 

[Maddogmetro]

Who did the study you reference? Pfizer or Moderna or one of the government bodies they pay and control or one of the journals they pay and control? Anyone can design a biased study that paints an incorrect result to help commercial outcomes. You couldn't be more wrong in your response and seems like it's written by a health bureaucrat that is financially invested in a sham untested technology.

What's your threshold for adverse events and death? Alright as long as it doesn't happen to you or your family? 1 death in 10,000 and 1 adverse event per 1000? The latest evidence suggests that 1 death per 1000 and 1 adverse event per 100 are more likely the accurate figure and this is being conservative. Other vaccines have been stopped for deaths of 1 in 100,000 but hey let's keep killing people with a product that doesn't work.

You also havent seen the latest report that came out of NSW of all places that showed that unvaccinated were the least likely to end up in hospital sick with covid while those jabbed 3 and 4 times were the most likely to end up in hospital sick. It might be time to admit defeat on this one. Backing a product that wasn't even remotely developed to any professional standards before it was released is not a good horse to back.

It is tiring debunking the same bullshit laden posts over and over. All it takes is a small amount of logical progression and intelligence to debunk these, yet so many of you keep pushing the same ridiculous things over and over.

 

[Maddogmetro]

Cue Mad Flog leaving the thread

My apologies, I don't spend every waking hour on here debunking your unintelligent drivel.

 

[kirky]

And this will be the same, just another feel good episode in a long history.

There is already more people in the Australian Parliament with indigenous heritage as a percentage of population than for all othe Australians...they already have a very strong voice in Parliament...maybe they need to get more pro-active making their voices heard. How many of them actually live within 500km of where the troublesome areas are?

A serious hole in that argument.

Can you work it out?