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[Saintos The ITK]

Prediction: Saidy will play one vfl game.

 

[Broski]

Prediction: Saidy will play one vfl game.

He's been under the radar for a lot of blokes who don't get to training. Looks like a really nice player. How does he look in training? Had any standout moments?

 

[Saintbloke]

I guess it can really depend on your perspective. For me, I am probably a bit older than many here. I remember the 71 grand final clearly, so let's say I have been following Saints for 55 years.

In that period, we have had two successful periods - 97/98 and 04/10 (and I am being a bit generous here, in truth 06/07 were very ordinary given the list and you could make a strong argument that 04/10 was our most disappointing period).

So in roughly 55 years we have effectively challenged twice. There is a lot of dross in there. Virtually the entire 80s. Virtually the entire 10s, a fair bit of the 70s.

Now I know none of this has much to do with today. But when people say "oh you base your doom and gloom on 1 match or 6 months and we were actually brilliant in 21.....

People of my vintage are running out of time. I was only saying to a mate the other day that on current trajectory there is an extremely high chance that we go out before we see a second St Kilda flag. Stupid decisions, poor list management, poor culture, trigger us far more than it would if we had another 40 or 50 years ahead of us. And the way this club self sabotages even with another 40 years ahead of us I would not be confident.

For the longer-term Saints supporters, how right you are. In the search for instant success and short-term gain, there just seems to have been a revolving door over the years of people at the top of this club, making stupid decisions as a result. I see the desperate re-appointment of Lyon, as yet another Groundhog Day moment at the club and I said to myself then, wtf, here we go again, seen all this before.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

I see the desperate re-appointment of Lyon, as yet another Groundhog Day moment at the club and I said to myself then, wtf, here we go again, seen all this before.

Lyons role this time is different.
He's just the platform.

 

[ScrappyDo]

I guess it can really depend on your perspective. For me, I am probably a bit older than many here. I remember the 71 grand final clearly, so let's say I have been following Saints for 55 years.

In that period, we have had two successful periods - 97/98 and 04/10 (and I am being a bit generous here, in truth 06/07 were very ordinary given the list and you could make a strong argument that 04/10 was our most disappointing period).

So in roughly 55 years we have effectively challenged twice. There is a lot of dross in there. Virtually the entire 80s. Virtually the entire 10s, a fair bit of the 70s.

Now I know none of this has much to do with today. But when people say "oh you base your doom and gloom on 1 match or 6 months and we were actually brilliant in 21.....

People of my vintage are running out of time. I was only saying to a mate the other day that on current trajectory there is an extremely high chance that we go out before we see a second St Kilda flag. Stupid decisions, poor list management, poor culture, trigger us far more than it would if we had another 40 or 50 years ahead of us. And the way this club self sabotages even with another 40 years ahead of us I would not be confident.

After 09/10 a good friend said to me "Scrappy, you just have to accept that you'll die before Stkilda win another premiership".
On balance, l have to think he's probably right. However of late, with the current administration we are at least on the right path. I honestly believe the league wants us to remain where we are for the reason that we're a convenient garbage bin for bad fixtures and introducing new suspendable offences, umpiring interpretations and so on. A red headed step child if you will.
Each of us stick in this abusive relationship for our own reasons. For me it's an interest and a distraction only since any further investment ATM can only lead to anger and disappointment.